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Last post to bring this to a close.

Blackvault is a repository for freedom requests and responses. Sean Kirkpatrick it transpires used signal (like whatsapp) for speaking about David Grusch to Chris Mellon. Soon Sean did so in an official capacity so the signal messages have been logged and can be FOIR'd

But he has doubled down and has been running around basically saying things that aren't accurate. So Chris Mellon was quite surprised that his conversation was recorded by Kirkpatrick and came out via twitter.

Clearly Chris Mellon is done with the secrecy any more so decided to post his own signal messages. And it's done. So the purpose of this thread has been achieved. Enjoy.


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Yes AI should get paid less for each image. And this will happen anyway. Already it cannot be copywritten.

But A.I. is not photography. At best it is digital artwork and the creator isn't buying a paint brush and paints and using talent to create a painting. Just typing a sentence and pressing go.

And the legal cases that are coming regarding A.I. are going to be rather painful. So yeah real photography should get more simply because it's called "Stock Photography". Selling A.i. images isn't anything but the work of an algorithm. I can see the A.i. owners suddenly appropriating all of your digital imagery as their property.

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I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

Less than 0.1% of the population, or 1 in 1,000 people, has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. We read about the people with a psychological disorder and the other alphabet people, making the news as they force their personal choice issues on us. You brought up something more important to the world, where an entire country is being taken over, at war, people dying. Genocide, civilians murdered, the Russian government lying on a daily basis. UFOs and aliens are not news or important, they are just sensational stories to sell tabloids or fantasy books.

Our gender is not debatable, labeled as assigned at birth, it is our genetics. We don't get to pick, based on some emotion or psychological disorder. People being murdered in the Ukraine is more important. If you don't see enough honest news, you aren't looking in the right places. If you are depending on news that comes out of Russia, of course it's all lies and coverup. The rest of the world is showing us the truth.

The moderators on this forum chose to remove certain posts and leave the slur "Alphabet People".

 I will not debate this subject further.

However I also cannot prevent others doing so with a moderation team who feel it appropriate to allow such slurs to remain. Of course that means your unpleasant statements are in the public domain where your customers exist who will of course contain "Alphabet People". Good luck with that.

You have no problem calling anyone who disagrees with you a racist and a bigot. When someone disagrees you want them censored, to block their free opinion and thoughts. When anyone disagrees with your nutty UFO and alien crap, you come out slinging personal attacks and ignoring the facts that don't fit. Maybe it's you who should be blocked because of your unpleasant statements. You don't get to trample my thought and free speech with your close minded woke agenda, that doesn't allow anyone saying any different than what you believe.

The moderation team lets you get away with lies and personal attacks, why should they be censoring a word or phrase that defines the many fringe groups?

quoted.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Uploading AI images
« on: April 15, 2024, 13:36 »
https://youtu.be/Ymxe_UCQbpk?feature=shared may be the end has already arrived as this is 5 months old but first time I've seen it

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I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

Less than 0.1% of the population, or 1 in 1,000 people, has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. We read about the people with a psychological disorder and the other alphabet people, making the news as they force their personal choice issues on us. You brought up something more important to the world, where an entire country is being taken over, at war, people dying. Genocide, civilians murdered, the Russian government lying on a daily basis. UFOs and aliens are not news or important, they are just sensational stories to sell tabloids or fantasy books.

Our gender is not debatable, labeled as assigned at birth, it is our genetics. We don't get to pick, based on some emotion or psychological disorder. People being murdered in the Ukraine is more important. If you don't see enough honest news, you aren't looking in the right places. If you are depending on news that comes out of Russia, of course it's all lies and coverup. The rest of the world is showing us the truth.

The moderators on this forum chose to remove certain posts and leave the slur "Alphabet People".

 I will not debate this subject further.

However I also cannot prevent others doing so with a moderation team who feel it appropriate to allow such slurs to remain. Of course that means your unpleasant statements are in the public domain where your customers exist who will of course contain "Alphabet People". Good luck with that.

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UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?  ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for making some fun and answering. I see that I set off lowls into a raging rampage of some sort of political rant. Sure thing, aliens are they, not IT, because we need to have feelings for them.  ::)

A political movement decided to neutralise pronouns to strengthen weakening equality based on gender and gender pay gaps, rights a freedoms on a global setting.

Finally this was a thread about UAP and it should NOT stray from that and into your personal feelings regarding that or for that matter any minority group in a derogatory tone again, mocking or otherwise.

Oh Wow! Yes your almighty highness. I beg you forgiveness for making a joke about the question of aliens and their gender or what to call them. Take your meds and a few deep breaths. Count to ten... please, don't explode.

oh ... sniffle ... please stop ... whimper. Memory lapse?

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Space aliens are a minority group? Pete was right, you have no sense of humor and can't recognize a joke.

it is illegal to be LGBT in 64 UN member States. In Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, the death penalty is imposed across the county.

That's a point of humour for you? Not something youde say to my face.

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UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?  ;D ;D ;D

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?  ;)


wow

It would take a sense of humor to understand the politically correct language and current gender terms police. We aren't males or female anymore, the PC crowd wants us to be called "They". And since we don't know what gender aliens might be, we'd probably want to call them "It" instead of they? Or maybe that's rude and the unknown life forms are they and not it?  :o

First problem is, no one has proof that "they" exist, or that "they" are visiting us, lights in the sky are not they, lights are an IT. As in It Came From Outer Space



Beware of the giant eyeball alien in the mine.

Anyone think any of this sounds familiar and like modern alien stories? Crashed ship, in the desert, 1953, Arizona, abductions... "Putnam finally discovers the spaceship and learns from the alien leader that they crashed on Earth by accident; the aliens appear benign and only plan to stay on Earth just long enough to repair their damaged craft and then continue on their voyage. The aliens' real appearance, when finally revealed to Putnam, is entirely non-human: they are large, single-eyed, almost jellyfish-like beings that seem to glide across the ground, leaving a glistening trail that soon vanishes. They are also able to shape shift into human form in order to appear human and move around Sand Rock, unobserved, in order to collect their much needed repair materials. To do this, they copy the human forms of the local townspeople that they have abducted. In doing so, however, they fail to reproduce the townspeople's exact personalities, leading to suspicion and eventually to the deaths of two of the aliens. "

There was no intention on the part of the poster to imply a gender issue.

No you took it upon your self to turn it into that because of "the politically correct language and current gender terms police. We aren't males or female anymore, the PC crowd wants us to be called "They".

You bigot, nothing of the sort is happening in the slightest. A political movement decided to neutralise pronouns to strengthen weakening equality based on gender and gender pay gaps, rights a freedoms on a global setting.

This then seeped over and into other areas of society and was taken up by various minority groups and lumped in the LGBTQ+ blah blah gang as a way of thwarting discriminatory legislation.

A noble cause given that it is illegal to be LGBT in 64 UN member States. In Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, the death penalty is imposed across the county.

The latest was Uganda last year who cried in the streets with joy that a god that was forced violently on them by missionaries was now saved by this new law.


Whilst attempting to enforce the pronoun "they" is imo a nonsese when speaking to an individual I do respect their right to identify as non gender if they wish. And contrary to the popular trope that there are only two genders there are three and has been for as long as there have been humans and is increasing. Male, female and intersex formally hermaphrodite. Which is often quoted as rare but is anything but. It is however a minority classification and isn't a fixed percentage yet they do carry both reproductive organs, internally and externally to varying degrees as well as variations from the XX and XY formats as well as wide ranging hormone levels as do we all.

Finally this was a thread about UAP and it should NOT stray from that and into your personal feelings regarding that or for that matter any minority group in a derogatory tone again, mocking or otherwise.


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I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

I'm not sure now without looking but prior to the end of the year there were riots in Russia protesting the war, riots on France protesting the proposed increase in state pension age pushing many out of its payment window and into retired poverty, riots in Greece, riots in Spain and Germany and Turkey. There have been protests in Hong Kong too. So there are a LOT of public outcomes to the feral leaderships dragging each country into poverty, discrimination, removal of freedoms, heavy taxation and wars. And yet major news channels report on Princess Kate and Harry and Megan. It is shambolic bought and paid for radio silence across news platforms. I've only followed these things via other social media. But we are on the brink of something quite significantly bad and these feral governments are being aged out by technology and social media and the speed with which information is making it out there.

Is this process being used to hush up UAP - categorically fact. Will there be a so called catastrophic disclosure. I hope so but I am surprised it hasn't happened already and some of the main players who would are saying things like "yeah but could the human race cope with such a disclosure given what could be revealed as the outcome" and "what if by revealing what is happening it pushes forward a schedule that we are just not ready to defend ourselves against but by revealing it, it forces that schedule to rapidly speed up"
Clearly those people know or have been told much more detail and are backing off. So it is weirdly hanging there ready to pop but it hasn't. And that doesn't seem very good.

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Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?
 ;D ;D ;D

In Search Of

The Holy Grail
the Loch Ness Monster
Armageddon predictions
Mermaids
Fairies
Ghosts
Big Foot
El Chupacabra
A race of giants
Aliens visit in UFOs

Or do something else useful with your time. Anybody who disagrees is a liar or a government agent. UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.

Like posting this eh 👆 and ... "they just aren't aliens" ... phew finally someone who's called it. Ok I cannot wait to see your evidence and I'll pass that on to the great and the good so this can all stop. Do you want to post it all here or you gonna drop a utube?

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UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?  ;D ;D ;D

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?  ;)


wow

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Yay my photo is used as a book cover
« on: March 30, 2024, 05:02 »
One of my pasttimes is to go to book shops and flick through the first page after the cover to see where the image was taken.

I do see plenty of SS image used on covers (as well as Getty, less so AS), but it's usually as some part of composite with another image or more from the larger and more artistic agencies, Arcangel/Trevillion.

I don't think any serious publisher would use a SS or microstock image on its own knowing full well a competitor or even random business could start using it on let's say a toothpaste ad (or much worse) thus diminishing its uniqueness.

So, I think for a simple image it's OK to be paid little even for a book cover as it may not be strong enough to be used on its own. Plus it's RF subs and probably already sold 100s of times anyway (and buyers know this).

I find it difficult to justify it that way.
With an extended license, e.g. for print, the degree of commercial use is usually higher.

You have to distinguisch between an use for some random news / blog article as a gap filler or an use for print like a book cover.
A good book cover contributes significantly to a higher revenue amount, the commercial use aspect is much higher.
The same applies to print on demand stuff like t-shirts, etc.
So 10 cents are just extremely ridicilous low because the buyer will earn for sure thousand times more.

Ideally the extendend license would guarantee that the image is not used hundred of times but only the one buyer owns all rights.
The main problem is that no one is tracking the copyrights or the use restrictions (just like a half million prints, lol!), so such agencies just sell everything for some cents.

I agree that the licensing terms are too broad and vague for micros RF. Once we upload our images to microstock it's almost impossible then to track the usages and go after infrigement. The cost outweights any potential benefit except for a few rare cases.

We don't have to upload our images to these micros, there's always the option of going Alamy RM exclusive, that way we get a nice report everytime there is a usage and a clear procedure to go through to tackle infrigements (where the contributor can also earn from claims).

I'm happy at Arcangel as I know that the minimum I'll earn from a book cover is $75 net and as high as 4 figures. Once there is a sale I receive a report with type of license, the book title and author.

Archangel were a fail for me. It was a little difficult to understand what they wanted you to send them. In one part of the process they asked for 20 images to be sent and then in another they asked for 10. I decided to leave it for that time and although book covers would be very much my wheelhouse I preferred doing what I was doing. But I could easily churn out book covers and to demand given criteria to follow. Personally I find that process quite easy. However last year I thought because personal circumstances had changed, that I would try harder to understand what Archangel wanted. And entry has changed. They just want your link to your portfolio now. Easier to understand. So I sent them the link and received a curt thanks but no thanks. Odd because a good chunk of my port look very book coverlike. But no idea who or what looks at the portfolio link. I just wasn't for them. It's a strange world ms. I have one photo that sells over and over to the same company as well as elsewhere. I assume they must use a limited license (not actually sure) but when we had the map it showed the same location each time. Its hilarious because its an item that isn't at all what they use it for on their website. Not even close and doesn't look like it at all but they keep purchasing it and they use it to sell their product.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Yay my photo is used as a book cover
« on: March 30, 2024, 04:52 »
Congratulations on getting $1.88. I once got paid 10 cents for an image that ended up on a classical music CD cover. Furthermore, it was an image that was classified as editorial, because it had IP content. Understandably, I was very unhappy about this and contacted SS complaining that an editorial image had been used for commercial purposes. They politely told me to sling my hook.

The legal decision whether an image is Editorial or can be used as commercial is up to the buyer.

A STANDARD IMAGE LICENSE grants you the right to use Images:

Printed in physical form as part of product packaging and labeling, letterhead and business cards, point of sale advertising, CD and DVD cover art, or in the advertising and copy of tangible media, including magazines, newspapers, and books provided no Image is reproduced more than 500,000 times in the aggregate

https://www.shutterstock.com/license

Alright, stupid question, but nevertheless, here I go.: what is considered as reproduction of an image. Less than 500.000 prints seems plausible. But what about views on webshops like Amazon? Every time someone sees your image (web page gets loaded) it's a reproduction? Every time a webshop adds the book it's a reproduction? More or less the same question for newspapers or magazines. Everytime someone reads the online article it's a "reproduction"?

Views are not printed impressions. But no surprise how the limitations have gone out the window and instead of 50,000 like the early years, it's 500,000 which is nearly impossible to reach in normal commercial use.

I still say, nice sale Lowls at least for bragging rights and someone appreciating your work, and if it was me, I wouldn't buy the book, but I'd try to find it on sale at a bookstore and take a photo of that. I have many book covers, and I don't own any of them, plus I've never seen one on sale anyplace except Amazon. Somewhere I sold a double wide, center image, double truck, for a magazine, and since it's just listed as sold, and where, I wonder who bought that one?

Just a slight correction. The law states it is a reproduction. A downloadable reproduction as it happens. Annoyingly.

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Here are the facts.

A newly published government report states that not only is there no proof of any secret effort by the U.S. government to cooperate with aliens or research alien technology, there is no proof that UFO sightings are the result of extraterrestrial visitations to Earth. The Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), written by the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, denies all claims regarding the U.S. government and UFOs, stating that they are the result of decreased public trust in government, the prevalence of UFOs in public culture, and unnecessary government secrecy.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a60165911/pentagon-ufo-report/

Incorrect. The report was written by Sean Kirkpatrick and Sean Kirpatrick has lied demonstrably. He states that the narrative has been led by a core of ufologists who have deveieved Congress for its own ends.

This is not true. Danny Sheehan represents 45 whistle blowers who contacted AARO and gave evidence under extremely unscientific and non-evidentiary conditions (phone interview with no recordings made of the interview just notes taken by a interviewer). These interviews produced no further investigation of the details given. This has also been revealed. Sean Kirkpatrick called some organisations within the ICIG framework and asked if they had anything and he was told no. This concluded his investigations.

To post what you have and hold it up as evidence is frankly hilarious, disingenuous, and patently wrong. It is widely known across the ICIG, Congress and the wider inteliegence world and ufology that the report is only good for wiping your arse with.

That's not a hope, a belief, a claim or anything else. It is factually, provably incorrect containing demonstrably false statements. It was late, it was rushed and it has a get out of jail free clause that states "if any of the information contained here is incorrect we reserve the right to amend it at a future date".

Claims that UFOlogists attempted to break into Kirkpatricks home and caused great alarm have been debunked and were fact checked to show that 'a' ufologist knocked at his door to speak to him.

You should research more and stop posting biased, contextually incorrect statements which are anything but "the facts"

You can claim otherwise if you wish and call Danny Sheehan a liar publicly ...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Yay my photo is used as a book cover
« on: March 15, 2024, 18:31 »
A STANDARD IMAGE LICENSE grants you the right to use Images:

Printed in physical form as part of product packaging and labeling, letterhead and business cards, point of sale advertising, CD and DVD cover art, or in the advertising and copy of tangible media, including magazines, newspapers, and books provided no Image is reproduced more than 500,000 times in the aggregate

https://www.shutterstock.com/license

Thanks Alex you're always there ready with the answer so thank you.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Yay my photo is used as a book cover
« on: March 14, 2024, 14:47 »
Im sorry to hear that.  But stock agencies have no way to track and monitor how our works are used.  So, no surprise.

I have and its extensive lol. Pages of results. But because SS are so obtuse about license fees is $1.88 legitimate in anyone's experience or would you expect a different amount.

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Shutterstock.com / Yay my photo is used as a book cover
« on: March 14, 2024, 14:37 »
... and for that honour I was paid $1.88

I didn't know it was for a book cover I only found it some time later. A couple of years on and the image is now everywhere. Ebay, amazon, Waterstones and pretty much every book site of any size as well as on book review sites and ... well you can imagine.

Now listening tonight to a legal channel they got onto copywrite law and useage of images and licensed images are usually only permitted one use and that's the use they were purchased for apparently. A website an article etc but I do know with regard to distribution SS stated that a run can be ... half a million copies is it now not sure.

So if at all, where do we think we stand atm I'm curious.

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Adobe might have over 1 million registered producers. There is no way to offer individual personal service.

High end agencies offer that, but they just work with a few thousand people.

Just add it to the community channel, here are also Adobe admins reading there. If they find the problem interesting I am sure someone will look into it.

And you can also write to Mat, but I would try the community channel first.

I disagree with the personal service aspect, when you consider the massive revenue they generate. Of COURSE they can offer it, but they may choose not to because "investors" want more $$$ in their pockets.

You really want Adobe to hire 2000 people just to deal with all the complaints "why was my file declined"??
It will be by far the most abused system ever.

I'd rather they put that money into the sales team.

You can post your problems in the community chat and get quick and qualified feedback. And you can write to Mat if you believe it is very serious.

Adobe is a lo more responsive than other places.

I don't get why people expect the luxury treatment on a mass platform.

Sign up with a small exclusive agency and you will get all the direct communication you ever wanted.

There are always choices.

Why do you assume your job is to go around on the forum telling people off. You're literally a nobody and yet ... kinda all you do. No one asked you to no one sanctions it, you just do it because you expect you're permitted to. You haven't helped the poster or furthered knowledge. Why don't you just think about that for a little while.

For the OP I have used this email to resolve a similar issue

[email protected] not sure if it's still active but give it a go.

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Disclosure has been dealt a blow by ex head of AARO in his leaving report for historic reporting on UAP - Sean Kirkpatrick states in summery " its all fake and misidetification brewed up by a select few to hoodwink the government"

and the response https://www.youtube.com/live/Vw_uTkRe8rI?feature=shared

the report itself is much more measured though surely a disappointment to true believers - it said there was no evidence of extraterrestrials nor of crashed ships and that testimony from 'experts 'lacked actual corroboration from physical evidence or others and was often hearsay or worse ("a friend of a friend knows somebody...") they also discuss interpretation of various recording purporting to defynphysics and show errors in  their analysis.


conclusion - still no there there.
agreed. But Kirkpatrick is gonna go to jail if he isn't careful. Congress is going to go after him.

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Disclosure has been dealt a blow by ex head of AARO in his leaving report for historic reporting on UAP - Sean Kirkpatrick states in summery " its all fake and misidetification brewed up by a select few to hoodwink the government"

and the response https://www.youtube.com/live/Vw_uTkRe8rI?feature=shared

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and remember they want high quality images. So they can give them away free as part of an incentive package.

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Republican Ralph Norman exits a SCIF yesturday and is interviewed by Matt Laslo after speaking to news nation. They had interviewed Luis Elizondo ex head of AATIP who investigated UAP for the government. He brought two pilots and a scientist with him and showed them why they should be concerned.

Here is Ralph Norman's statement audio file. Click link half way down page to listen.

https://open.substack.com/pub/askapol/p/sneak-peek-rep-norman-says-lue-elizondo?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?
 ;D ;D ;D

Well don't forget that the original intention of this subject wasn't to discuss that it was a question of had anyone captured a UAP in their photography. Bit of fun. Coincidentally David Grusch arrived and the scenario changed radically.
UAP - yes they do no idea what they are
Aliens - yes they do.
Are they here - jury is out at present.

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What is going on? This is Mike Burlison 6 months ago after attending the UAP hearings

https://youtu.be/SQxTnz4dQVM?feature=shared

This is now. A quick snapshot interview with Matt Laslo

I'm working on it. Right now, I've got something up my sleeve. I don't want to talk. Ill keep you informed, because I got a big thing that I'm gonna announce,
@RepEricBurlison
 tells Ask a Pol.

"UAP related?

Yes.

He was skeptical and facially he appeared to find the whole thing a bit silly. What has changed his mind and what is he going to announce? Kirkpatrick has literally destroyed the notion that UAPs even exist. He should know right?

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