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So then I suppose you should have no say over types of licensing? All of us should have the RIGHT to opt-out of this crap. Quit making excuses for a bloody monster corporation to take away your dignity to decide how they license your work. This ain't about your love affair with AI. It's about our rights as artists!

Exactly, the "stolen" sky of another artist is perfectly fine when it is useful for them. same for rainbows, a face swap, adding just a few flowers, just extending the image...

ai is just another tool like photoshop.

The only real artists are the actual painters, even film photography is already cheating...etc...pretending the world never changes doesn't keep your business going.

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Really? Shutterstock, Pond5, Panthermedia and others allow us the right to opt-out. Will you say they "need to adapt"? No, that's SMART!

"yeah, i hate A.I., i only do real photos of real people in real places!"

*Goes to photoshop and use generative fill to remove a scar from the model, removes a bird from the sky, and fix the messy hair*


sorry, but i think the game rules changed and we have to adapt :/

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This is not about me starting my own group. This is about RESPECT for our art. We already give these scumbags huge percentages on our blood and sweat. Fotobia or whatever . it is called now has gone too far by not allowing us to opt-out.

There is stocksy and other companies created to represent a group of talented artists and their interests.

Nobody is stopping you from creating your own collective group and be your own agency.

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It's NEVER too late to fight back! I don't care if a million people are selling their soul to this corporate robot beast. Don't sit there and keep taking the disrespect! FIGHT DAMNIT! 1/1/2025 better give us an opt-out or pull your portfolio.

Nice sentiment. But I'm afraid it's too little, too late. The company shills and nave short-term thinkers have always been very vocal and effectively outnumber those of us who have been trying for some semblance of a real stock collective and/or any sort of stock creator empowerment, for well over a decade. They defended and continued to support iStock when they dropped royalties to 15%, they defended and continued to support Shutterstock when they lowered royalties, changed their structure to yearly reboots and later bought out and gutted the last respectable company, Pond5. And they will continue to defend and support Adobe, SS, etc. as they pillage our IP for AI data training of software intended to replace us. Most stock creators are passive by nature, and unfortunately, also afraid to risk short-term income in favor of any hope of long-term stability and the prospect of growth.

We were never able to get past the idea stage of a union/collective without a flood of them, right here in these forums, ripping the mere concept to shreds.

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These corporations thrive off of apathy when they exploit us. We are already underpaid. We should fight, no matter how impossible the odds.

This whole AI art is disgusting. It makes people think they cannot create anything good. I can see it a mile away. I like the flaws in my work. I like the flaws in others' work. It makes us uniquely human. I don't need AI to make art or write. I certainly don't want my work being used to "train" a monster.

Regarding software and microstock, I use it as a tool to manifest what I sketch on paper into scalable art (and music). Not for content creation.

Adobe is a software company that mainly produces media software for designers. Adding useful ai tools to improve Photoshop and create a better firefly is their core business.

If ai is not your thing, it is probably best to focus on the non ai companies.

You can try asking them for an opt out, but I doubt they will listen.

And losing a few non ai ports wont make a big difference to them.

The other companies who offer the opt out are not software companies, stock is their main business.

For Adobe stock is just a little add on to what they really do.

Just then please also be so committed to stick to old software versions of Photoshop and never use an ai based tool.

I would prefer if they gave us an opt out.

I am just not very optimistic your wish will be granted or even gain many votes.

For better or worse, the market is now split into ai companies and non ai companies.

If one is really focussed on non ai, I think it is best to focus attention on agencies that also prefer non ai content.

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I am calling on all of us contributors to stop uploading new content to Adobe until they allow us to opt-out of their AI "Firefly" robbery.

If by January 1, 2025 they do not allow us to opt-out, I am calling on us to remove our entire portfolios. I will do it myself as well.

Pond5 and other agencies let us opt-out. Adobe must do the same!

Attached is what I submitted to Adobe Contributor Support. Feel free to copy what I wrote. Just swap out your account name.

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/uk/Contact

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This is highway robbery! I will NEVER contribute new work ever again! All contributors should strike Adobe!  >:(

Please, give us an option to opt out.

We currently do not allow for an opt-out mechanism for Adobe Stock content, as this content is used for building AI models for a variety of existing and future Stock features.

thank you,

Mat Hayward

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It is a crime that we contributors cannot opt-out of this monstrosity. I don't want my years of work being gobbled up for a robot. They can keep the "bonus" crap.

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Crestock.com / Re: Crestok has just filed for bankruptcy
« on: April 08, 2020, 17:53 »
You have to sign few documents to request a payment but "It is highly unlikely payment will be distributed".

I forgot about checking my account since June 2019 and have $100.50 in there. What a ripoff.

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Whilst a good idea sadly getting stock contributors to do anything as a collective group is like herding cats  :(

It is difficult to organize any group of individuals for united action. The difference between those who are successful and those who are not is those who never give up trying.

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New Sites - General / Re: photospin
« on: August 29, 2018, 12:58 »
I made some decent royalties there. I think I had requested payout last month. This stinks. I did like the site.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Request for web extended license (W-EL)
« on: January 29, 2018, 12:48 »
I got about 40 and turned a few on. Then I thought this was time consuming and odd. So I looked on the MSG forum. Seems I'm not alone and this is a bad joke, a bug or scam. I'll delete those messages. I have no time to mess with it anyway.

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Yeah, 2015 and 2016 were my best years on 123RF. End of 2017 was half the normal amount. I assume it was because my submissions are down.

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Photoshop Discussion / Re: Soaring cost
« on: July 20, 2017, 13:01 »
Big hustle. Big scam. I'm still using Photoshop CS5 and Illustrator CS3 on OSX 10.6.8.

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same for me  >:(
ESP can't extract IPTC metadata. (testing XMP/IPTC metadata with CS Bridge and Exiftool nothing)
so i enter it manually

but they say
Quote
Embed metadata via IPTC (optional). ESP supports IPTC metadata so will extract any related fields Title/Description/Date Created/Creator/City/Country/Keywords.
https://contributors.gettyimages.com/article.aspx?article_id=5248

Ugh. iStock really seems out of touch. The gap is widening with this latest drama.

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I uploaded the EPS and JPG versions of my illustrations. It's asking me to enter Title, Description and Keywords. This system does not extract the information (like other stock sites)? Must I enter it manually (or copy and paste from the original files)? I cannot use DeepMeta because my operating system is no longer compatible with it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Buying SSTK stock in January
« on: December 30, 2016, 16:25 »
Unless you're experienced with stock picking, stick with mutual funds. Buying one company is a quick way to lose alot of money. You might be better off making art to sell on microstock if you want to get rich.  :o

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Selling rights question
« on: December 23, 2016, 23:10 »
Do you think is $1,000 fair price for selling all rights to buyer?

DT will take 50%, so price accordingly!  8)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Petition to stop spammers
« on: November 04, 2016, 08:25 »
I hope hope hope hope hope hope hope hope the petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition petition inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires inspires management to fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix the problem.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 27, 2016, 11:31 »
I don't get why people are still contributing to microstock at all at the moment. The only thing which is growing is the total number of images. And that means, inevitably, that the prices are only going down. Ever closer to zero. The size of the market was vastly over-estimated. That boom era is never coming back. Is everyone just hoping that everyone else will give up first? Otherwise it seems like a rather costly hobby.

And if you are really into pictures as a hobby then why not give up taking pictures which you think might sell and start taking pictures you like or which interest you instead? That's the thing about the best of the stuff in the non-microstock and more bespoke collections like Stocksy - that, at best, the pictures seem much more real. They seem like pictures made by people who love pictures.

Some of us are desperate for the income. We are very creative and are in saturated creative markets. Times are rough and the global economy is good for many, but not for all. Sadly I am in that boat. :'(

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock do nothing with spammers.
« on: October 21, 2016, 23:15 »
Well, Shutterstock did something. They deleted a thread about spammers on their forums....but left the spam images up. You can spam, but you can't talk about spam.

Big giant company that is on its way down. I'm surprised how Fotolia sales are eclipsing SS for me.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock do nothing with spammers.
« on: October 16, 2016, 21:34 »
Problem with spamming titles. Title spamming. Spam. Title. Titles spamming titles. Problems with titles that have spammy titles. Spam. Spam. Problem with spamming titles. Title spamming. Spam. Title. Titles spamming titles. Problems with titles that have spammy titles. Spam. Spam. Problem with spamming titles. Title spamming. Spam. Title. Titles spamming titles. Problems with titles that have spammy titles. Spam. Spam.  :o

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DepositPhotos / Re: New DollarPhotoClub?
« on: September 21, 2016, 15:39 »
DepositPhotos promoting "New Flexible Plan". May be that is not news. But I've just noticed. Monthly plan 10$ for 10 images and you can buy additional images for 1$ and unused downloads transfer month to month >:(
Sound familiar?


Grumble, it looks like it worked. I see higher prices. Anyone else see a change?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Agency working seriously now
« on: September 21, 2016, 15:30 »
Adobe's cloud is a big scamespecially for loyal customers like myself. Glad the stock sales are improving as it doesn't make me hate them so much. But I still won't rent their clouds.  8)

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