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1 / Re: Shutterstock Forum Deactivation
« on: July 24, 2020, 16:13 »
New posts are appearing. But it doesn't work for me so it must be those who found a workaround.

Just heard back from 'support'. Apparently if I use my web browser rather than my mobile I will be able to post on the forum and pigs may fly. I will give up now or I may have to contact the Samaritans.

Not true anyway. I only log in from a browser and if I try to reply to a thread post, I get this (after I'm taken to the top of the page):

Yep. Here are the black sheep without any wool!  ;D

I think that SS does notify you if you're banned because they also give you a re-instatement date. I looked at my forum profile and no bans or warnings on that. So.....maybe they just suspended the forums. Must have been painful to them having gotten all adverse comments removed from FB and other social media only to discover that they were hosting their own adverse comments site.  ;D

5 / Re: We are having some impact
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:48 »
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

I dont think so. I just quoted you. But I work on an ipad and this forum software isnt very ipad friendly.

I don't mean the SS forum on MSG but the SS forum on Shutterstock. No new posts since Tuesday either.

Dunno what's up with SS forum but I noticed yesterday that 'quotes' were disabled but didn't try to post anything. If you look at the landing page of the SS forum you'll notice that the last posts (most up-to-date) are from Tuesday. I reckon that it's maybe been cancelled due to lack of positivity toward SS.  ;)

7 / Re: We are having some impact
« on: July 22, 2020, 19:22 »
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Down?
« on: June 30, 2020, 06:10 »
Blank landing page on Adobe Contributor for me 1pm CET. Ok earlier this am. Firefox. Win 7 and 10.

Pity I didn't buy 2 BTC with every month's SS earnings in 2014! (OK that's really the same as going to the casino and getting lucky!!!)

Wouldn't need to work any more.  ;D

Waiting until the May payment is on the bank, then disable port...only photos no video(thank goodness).

Gone from $300-400/month in 2015/16 to $100/month now. Half or one third of that is unacceptable and I'm not going to let them earn off me to that extent.
Hopefully if enough of their contributor base denies them the ability to make out like bandits from their hard work, their buyers will desert in droves due to lack of decent content. Then the senior execs don't get their bonus which is what it's all about anyway.

Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock reviews slow?
« on: June 02, 2020, 07:13 »
Submitted 12 commercial and one Illustrated editorial on May 21st. The Ill-Ed was approved immediately and the 12 were approved today. So that's 11 days I think.

Will wait until I'm paid for May then I'm out. Pointless.

General Stock Discussion / Re: Say Bye to Opting-Out
« on: February 25, 2020, 20:41 »
As George Carlin (RIP) once remarked, " You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. "  ::)

General Stock Discussion / Re: Shutterstock vs Adobe Stock
« on: February 12, 2020, 20:51 »
In 2012 I started on SS having been on AS/FT since 2008. I have almost the same number of images on both (5% more on AS). Almost no editorial and SS even today makes consistently 3-4X more than AS for me in an average month and that used to be 10X. AS sometimes brings a surprise with a $50 custom sale but they're less frequent than $20-$50 SODs at SS. New images seem to have more 'chance' at AS but with SS 'new' is pretty hopeless. (In the good old days with SS 'new'  submissions found a place on the first page of new for a day or so). Now that's down to a matter of minutes or hours before they're deluged under a pile (in the non-niche categories) never to be seen again.

If I take RPD over lifetime with both AS and SS, I see that both are around 0.70; the only difference being that AS is in GBP () and SS is in USD ($). With 4 years less at SS, I have a factor 3-4X as many dl's at SS compared to AS.

Paypal used to be 2.5% for USD to EUR but in the course of the years they've upped it to 4% (Preypal). I usually just try to pick a time to convert my USD and GBP to EUR when the exchange rate is favourable. Still lose the egregious 4% to the sharks but it seems less painful when the USD is high against the Euro.

Occasionally, I'll buy something on Ebay UK with my GBP (usually stuff coming from China!!).

General Stock Discussion / Re: January 2020 Earnings Report
« on: February 01, 2020, 15:54 »
Not Anglo-Saxon notation. Funny, never occurred to me before as I've lived in NL for 40+ years. I imagine that SS adjusts the notation depending on the country of contributor. Soooo....for you:

General Stock Discussion / Re: January 2020 Earnings Report
« on: January 31, 2020, 20:45 »
A sterling month for me at SS with the best sales in more than than one year.

Really peeving though is an example of what I would call 'blown pallindrome syndrome'.......missed by one friggin' cent  ;D

How SS accepted these without a (legitimate) press pass is beyond me.

Whole account comprises of stolen images...

How shutterstock went from a decent agency to an outfit that can't control jack sh*t is also beyond me :D

Pure WallStreet GREED....that's how!

Within 5 mins I spotted more than dozen thieves proliferating at SS...

Just follow the peach trail and it will lead you to many accounts that lead to many more into infinity...

Yep. Something weird about a couple of those thieves' accounts and that is that their account name doesn't appear in the space where it should......... just a grey pulsating rectangle!! Hovering over that grey rectangle with the cursor reveals 2 weird account names...'think4321' and 'OuSs-911'

20 / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: December 24, 2019, 20:54 »
With that name, I'm surprised he's not going for 14,400...nomen est omen!  ;)

Took me a while to figure that one. No habla Latin.  :)

Joe is still going for the 10K I hope he makes it, but I want to make it perfectly clear, I think he's misguided to think that the only import fact of microstock is how many images anyone has. I've watched for long enough to see that the plain and obvious answer is not counting how many images but what are the images.

One of the sales mottoes, back when, was don't work harder, work smarter. In Microstock that means uploading good, useful content and not wasting time trying to make number quotas.

I also believe, to each their own, so as independent business people, anyone can do anything they want. Not my business to tell them how, but I can observe and say for myself and many others, uploading 10,000 nice images will earn no more than 500 carefully planned, designed, thoughtful, market appropriate images.

Nevermind...  ;)

I respect his work ethic.. especially since I only produce about 100 shots a month.  However his port is profoundly un-commercial.  Some of the editorial content should sell (open mouthed politicians are in season).  Overall I wonder if he is going to break even on his transportation and equipment costs... or produce 10,000 shots at a loss?

That point about return on time/money/costs invested seems to be lost on many of the new generation of stock shooters. They will always reply that nobody knows whether their shots will become massive sellers in the it's worthwhile to them!

All I can go by is what I see and that is that my meagre port on 2 agencies (<1,000 images) has brought in $20K+ in the last 7 years. All my best-sellers are kitchen table/wall stuff that cost nothing to produce and still sell every week. I'm old and pretty lazy. Never had to sign a model or property release. Haven't submitted any more than 15 new images in the last 6 months because in the 6 months prior to this, almost nothing I did submit sold (conclusions: I've either lost my touch or it's getting buried under a mountain of crap). Old stuff still sells and brings in ~$150/month which is pocket money compared to 2016/2017 when the same but slightly smaller port brought in $300-$400/month. Still, it is pocket money for nothing and I'm not complaining!

Today, micro just seems like too much effort and cost for the reward. Fine if you're in employment and get to travel, eat exotic food and shoot when a company is paying most of the bills but when things have to be funded from your own future micro licensing, I'm not sure there's a viable future in that (except perhaps when you're young with a load of young friends who hang out/go on vacation together and everyone is prepared to sign model releases for free!).

I suppose you just have to find the 'Next Big Thing' before it becomes the next big thing and milk the fad for all it's worth whilst looking out for the NBT after that!

21 / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: December 24, 2019, 02:38 »
With that name, I'm surprised he's not going for 14,400...nomen est omen!  ;)

They don't care about stolen photos but are mustard on stolen footage. This took a while to get up to speed but after the OP came with examples of genuine and stolen, the port of 7K videos was gone quite quickly.

23 / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: November 27, 2019, 20:47 »
the rejections lately are so random and ridiculous it makes me wonder if it is even worth my time to submit anymore. there is literally no rhyme or reason to the rejections. it makes me wonder if the powers that be over at SS are even aware of how ridiculous this is.

The only thing the SS PTB worry about is their stock price which I suspect is intricately linked to the growth of the growth and Wall Street luvs ya. BS baffles brains..never mind the quality feel the width.

24 / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: November 27, 2019, 20:40 »
I relised a few years ago that resubmits to SS are pretty pointless. Many years ago I did re-submit some images that I was convinced were OK and they became best-sellers but now it just seems there's no point. Everything new gets buried under a pile of ..... and has no chance to be seen anyway. Just IMO.....saves getting peeved and annoyed. If they reject it, they don't deserve it..move on.

Had an interesting rejection at Adobe recently whilst the shot was already accepted at SS. Grounds were copyright infringement on a coin with QEII I thought 'what the........?'

Turns out that Adobe were right (sort of) because when I checked with the SS disallowed list I saw that British coins are OK but coins of China, Macao and Hong Kong are not and this is an old HK dollar coin (pre-1997 when HK was still a UK Crown Colony). Silly me, I put HK dollar coin in the keywords and description.
Dunno whether the copyright claim by China is recent (in which case they can't really claim copyright on a coin made by the Brits?) but the coin is still legal tender apparently. Unusual to find SS accepting something that Adobe rejects.

QEII is probably the only person in the world that managed to copyright herself, so any image or representation of her isn't allowed for commercial use  :-X

Absolutely untrue! QE2 coins of UK are no problem for commercial stock...Only Canada and China (HK & Macao included) have copyrighted their coins whilst China has no right to copyright the head of the UK sovereign but has done so anyway!

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