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General Stock Discussion / Starting a New Stock Marketplace
« on: December 14, 2013, 19:08 »
I had posted earlier about starting a new image marketplace. People had mixed thoughts, but mostly on the down side. I had stumbled across this article about DespositPhotos. They were only started from nothing in 2009 and now are fairly successful. What made them different than all the other companies that tried and failed? Does this show starting a new image marketplace is still viable?


http://inventures.eu/a-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words-and-100m

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 22, 2013, 15:36 »
I have been spending a small fortune on Photoshelter during three years. After just six month traffic (and sales) on my SYS site is already 10 times of what it was last on Photoshelter (and I have only 1/3 of my port up, yet).



@Pilens,

Why is this? What make SYS have better traffic than Photoshelter? Is it something different that just having a large collection of images?


My social network + marketplace idea, would show up much higher than SYS in google, I'm sure, if that's the only basis.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 22, 2013, 09:43 »
I don't really understand SymbioStock.

Do photographers think this will be a success? How does it compare to Stocksy? Do photographers like Stocksy more or SymbioStock more?

I don't really understand. How does SymbioStock make money? To do well, as someone mentioned above, you need to raise a lot of marketing dollars. I don't understand how such a platform could do well, as if it can't be monetized, why is someone invest in it?

I mean this in a nice way, just as you guys are giving me advice. It's a cool project and concept, I'm just not sure.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 22:15 »
@noodle

I don't understand why you think it's nonsense. I'm just trying to get feedback on some existing ideas and some of my own ideas, before I waste time doing them. Why would you call this nonsense? I should of course ask photographers what they think; this is like common sense. I had one guy PM me on here, discussing his agreement with me. He told me he was scared to agree with me, as others in this community would vehemently disagree, just to disagree. Not that I agree with him. But still, we should be allowed to discuss ideas, openly, etc. on here. And I don't think I've been obtrusive or offensive in anyways. Just gave my thoughts, context, research, etc. If the conclusion from this, is that I shouldn't make a social network and marketplace, then I've learned something valuable.

Anyways, anyone have any other thoughts or ideas?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 19:20 »
@PaulieWalnuts


I think the opportunity is beyond just building a site. The next big thing will be a disruptive change in licensing and distribution.


Care to elaborate on this point? What do you mean by this? I don't know. I mean Thomas Hawk has argued that individual licensing could be huge: http://petapixel.com/2012/10/22/the-next-big-thing-in-the-photo-world-is-individual-licensing/


No one here seems to agree though?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 18:06 »
To be honest with you, I could make something like SymbioStock in less than a week, to give you an idea of where my skills are.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 18:05 »
How does symbiostock make money then?

@chromaco,

So you're suggesting making Stocksy or something similar?

I have several years of making web apps, I have the skills to make this.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:57 »
I think you are taking the piss reading the parts in bold. This is where I go in lurker mode.


I have no idea what you mean by this, honestly.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:49 »
I don't really understand Symbiostock. Do photographers like it? Why? Do they think it will succeed? How much do the websites cost per year for the photographer?

I'm just asking around, b/c I do have the technical background to make a very complicated product and I want to do something in photography. You guys should want me to try something, as I actually have the background.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:41 »
I'm not trying to copy the ideas.

I had this idea, along with my social network + marketplace idea, and then noticed there were some competitors, even after I did a lot of research on landscape.

I'm not looking for people to agree by any means. I'm just looking for people's feedback.

My initial thought was making a social network + marketplace, and letting contributors keep 70+ percent and branding it sort of like an Apple model, would resonate will in some regards, to the community.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:23 »
Well, if no one likes the idea of a new marketplace. What about making a platform for photographers to make educational videos. I saw Shutterstock do this: https://www.skillfeed.com/. I could make a similar platform, as I have the technical skills. Sorry, I really want to do something innovative in photography.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:20 »
I mean that's also why I reached out to photographers. I wanted their opinion.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 16:03 »
@Ron,

You maybe right, but several successful founders say being naive in a market is a strength, b/c your not entrenched with old ways of thinking.

Your photography is very good btw Ron. You know something.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 15:18 »
According to this: http://barwickphoto.wordpress.com/tag/getty-images/

The largest market in stock, is creative stock, by far. Which would be in line with that marketplace.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 15:00 »
That would be sad. They have so much good content on there. They have millions of great images. I imagine there would be some demand for it.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 13:13 »
No, I'm not from Pixoto. I have no idea why would draw the conclusion, looking at my posts.

I was thinking about starting a similar site, before I discovered pixoto, 500px, photorankr, etc.

I was wondering from photographers if they think any of these sites will have successful marketplaces.

Eg, 500px just launched a commercial marketplace, with a 5 year plan.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 12:32 »
@Sean Locke

I think this is why: http://www.slideshare.net/JasonKiefer1/why-is-pixoto-better-for-stock

They have several appealing points for buyer. I was wondering if people agree or disagree?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 12:22 »
Figure out something that attracts a new group of buyers.


Do you guys think that what pixoto is doing is innovative for buyers? http://www.pixoto.com/

They sort content.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 12:09 »
So, according to everyone here, there's nothing innovative that can be done in the stock photography industry? This is kind of sad.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 11:42 »
My thought is that if I build a large enough number of content providers and had a lot of supply, the demand would come eventually.

I see a lot of ways to make money. In stock photography, in selling prints, in possibly making a hiring a photographer directory, etc.


I think the key is to just get the photographers on board.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 10:57 »
I was thinking the social networking side would attract the suppliers.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 09:22 »
I mean, build something like Zoomr, that never came to fruition: http://rising.blackstar.com/an-interview-with-thomas-hawk.html

What every happened to that?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 08:54 »
USP: Social network + marketplace.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 08:21 »
Combination of social network and marketplace.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 08:00 »
s BIG, guess that is all you need to know, you better ask yourself how much size you can/want to get?


Seems like there's a fair number of you here who think it's actually a good idea, just one that's hard to pull off and would take a long time to succeed, in a crowded space. If Dreamstime did it, it took them years, but they're fairly big now. I'm not sure why it's different now.

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