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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 19, 2020, 07:02 »
Mr Boris Joke should look in his mirror and tell us what he sees. I am sure he will see an ugly bloody monster. The entire world suffers from coronavirus and people loose their life every day the hundreds or thousands. Yet he lives in his own world - something like a psychologically naive person. He is a cynical grotesque ignorant disgusting creature accompanied by a wild Herd of miserable irresponsible consultants and a swarm of "puppet politicians" who do not have a clue of what to do for their followers.
Coronavirus is not a "table game". From a humanitarian point of view it is mandatory that both the government and the citizens of the Country, must obey the INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL COMMUNITY HEALTH INSTRUCTIONS so we can all have a chance to hope for a better tomorrow.- 

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Alamy.com / Re: Payout Alamy - cleared balance
« on: March 19, 2020, 06:29 »
I think Alamy must reconsider their contributor's payment policy. The agency can wait for a lifetime to get paid by the buyers if that is what they want. But the agencie's money making machine (the CONTRIBUTORS),  must be paid regularly same way as with other major stock agencies. Alamy's payment policy is getting on my nerves. So Mr Alamy make up your mind: You either want my photos contribution or not. I you do want to have me as a contributor, then you have to change your policies and pay me FASTER.- I f you are listening let me know IN THIS forum.-

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Shutter stock rejections arrgghh
« on: January 07, 2020, 17:10 »
My turn to suffer.
The following is actually addressed to Shutterstock hoping someone of their stuff is fishing on this forum.
Normally my acceptance rate is very good at all agencies I upload to. My Shutterstock acceptance rate is usually about 95%.

Last couple of weeks I go through an ordeal of insane rejections from Shutterstock for all kinds of nonexistent reasons: focus: the main subject of this image is not in focus, noise/artifacts/film grain, composition, invalid model/property release, titles/captions/keywords must be in English etc to mention a few.
On the other hand Shutterstock is trying to motivate me to produce more content by sending me the Shoot Lists, tries to tell me how important it is to hire and work with models, and emphasizes to have the property release model release signed when applicable.

Shutterstock is contradicting itself. They tell me to hire and pay models, to pay rent for real estate location, pay assistants, and buy the props. That is depending on the shoot pay a large amount of money, spend endless hours to inspect all images one by one, make necessary adjustments, add titles, captions, keywords, double check model/property releases for errors, and finally upload the images.

And here comes the fun: When I submit finished work, the images go to a Highly Unqualified human or robot reviewer who has no idea of what he/she is viewing, and in no time he/she determines that their own model/property release is invalid, image composition is not good enough, focus should be elsewhere in the image, sees noise/artifacts/film grain, title/caption/keywords are unsuitable. And boom!!! Rejects 70-80% of my images, and throws all my Efforts and all the hot cash I paid for Expenses directly to the trash can.

Recently I have had images with or without models new and from photoshoots series they have already accepted, now being rejected for one or more of the reasons above. This drives me crazy as I upload and submit only the best images.
To make a long story short, if any Shutterstock reviewer or other responsible personnel of the agency is listening here, this is what I would like to say:

1.   It was about eight years ago when I started as a contributor at Shutterstock. At that time I had to submit 10 images for evaluation before I was accepted. All ten images passed the very first time. Same happened with other agencies I contribute to.

2.   None of the rejection reasons listed above is applicable to the images I produce. It is bad I cannot fight back as I know I will not be heard. As a rule I produce images specifically for Stock, they are technically within the agency guidelines, and I use high end full frame cameras/lenses.

3.   Massive unjustified rejections of technically and commercially good images Do Not Motivate me to Produce for Shutterstock.

4.   I suggest Shutterstock itself should be brave enough to have a look into the millions of underexposed/overexposed, blurred, poorly composed, aesthetically unacceptable, and similar images in their collections, and Delete Them. They should also Delete their current Reviewers whatever they are.

I personally will not any more pay money for models and real property rental to make images and submit them to Shutterstock for rejection. Neither will I go into the trouble of resubmitting rejected photos. Hope Shutterstock Wakes Up and starts Listening to their Contributors.

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Site Related / Re: Site Speed
« on: January 05, 2020, 14:03 »
Sorry I was just too enthusiastic. The site did load very fast, but it took 45 seconds to preview the post and 58 seconds to post it on line. So there is something wrong....

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Site Related / Re: Site Speed
« on: January 05, 2020, 13:55 »
Very fast here today. All pages load instantly.

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Site Related / Re: Site Speed
« on: January 04, 2020, 13:34 »
Very slow here in central Mediterranean as well for more than a week. Comes on and off and performs "TLS handshake" almost forever. Using Firefox on Win 10. It took nearly a minute to see a preview of this post.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 18, 2019, 16:34 »
Jonbull Prices you mention sound reasonable. I will try to contact some models for a couple of concepts I have in mind. Belgrade is not far from where I currently live - about one and a half hour flight. If financial terms end up positive, I can either fly to Belgrade or bring models to my location offering them an 8 day free vacation in an sea side airbnb villa with modern facilities including a pool, in exchange of their time - 5-6 hours photoshoot a day. TFV (time for vacation - flights included).  Will calculate costs and see if I should proceed or not.

Sorry to clip out some of the irrelevant parts. Maybe you should also calculate the earnings from those photos, not just the expenses? If you can make back your investment, time, money, everything in two years, that's not a bad plan. (except you already have the equipment and software, so you don't need to include that in a single project prediction?)

What's your return for 8 days and 40 to 48 hours of shooting. You should count your personal time editing and uploading as an expense.

How much profit do you expect?
Hello Pete,
You are absolutely right. It is mandatory all aspects of such a project must be taken in consideration to avoid unpleasant financial end results; however I cannot really predict the sales potential each image has. But I can say I am often surprised with repeating good sales coming from some of my older or/and newer images I thought did not have that much sales potential.
Of course I have the equipment and software. I do the editing, keywording etc by myself, and upload in small batches.

In regard to the prospective projects with the Serbian models, I find the idea of flying them over to my location best, as I have the experience of a photoshoot I did four years ago using the same approach. The models for that photoshoot were from Romania young couple (male-female), no professional models. Six days creating stock photos in various concepts. Only difference: No villa. Offered them full board accommodation in a beach hotel plus flights. Photoshoot took place on the beach, mountains, parks, sports grounds and in the city. Everything worked fine. They were happy and I was content with the results and the financial outcome of this job. Many of those images did not sell at all. Some had random sales and faded away, but there are a small number of those images that sell nearly every single day since they were uploaded. Those few images are the ones that have returned the cost of the photoshoot several times back to me and still working with very good results. To be honest when I started that project I was not sure I would make my money back.
So I am kind of optimistic for this new photoshoot possibility. But that does not mean that I will make my money back in this case. Will see.

Sounds good if you can do that. I only said two years because that's a usual number to amortize an investment. I understand the expenses up front could be less by working you plan, which potentially means you can make your investment back sooner.

By the way the verified expert part was a joke but some people can't see past their anger, hostility and closed minds.
...beautiful day today and I am out shooting ...stock photos!  :D

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 16, 2019, 15:26 »
Jonbull Prices you mention sound reasonable. I will try to contact some models for a couple of concepts I have in mind. Belgrade is not far from where I currently live - about one and a half hour flight. If financial terms end up positive, I can either fly to Belgrade or bring models to my location offering them an 8 day free vacation in an sea side airbnb villa with modern facilities including a pool, in exchange of their time - 5-6 hours photoshoot a day. TFV (time for vacation - flights included).  Will calculate costs and see if I should proceed or not.

Sorry to clip out some of the irrelevant parts. Maybe you should also calculate the earnings from those photos, not just the expenses? If you can make back your investment, time, money, everything in two years, that's not a bad plan. (except you already have the equipment and software, so you don't need to include that in a single project prediction?)

What's your return for 8 days and 40 to 48 hours of shooting. You should count your personal time editing and uploading as an expense.

How much profit do you expect?
Hello Pete,
You are absolutely right. It is mandatory all aspects of such a project must be taken in consideration to avoid unpleasant financial end results; however I cannot really predict the sales potential each image has. But I can say I am often surprised with repeating good sales coming from some of my older or/and newer images I thought did not have that much sales potential.
Of course I have the equipment and software. I do the editing, keywording etc by myself, and upload in small batches.

In regard to the prospective projects with the Serbian models, I find the idea of flying them over to my location best, as I have the experience of a photoshoot I did four years ago using the same approach. The models for that photoshoot were from Romania young couple (male-female), no professional models. Six days creating stock photos in various concepts. Only difference: No villa. Offered them full board accommodation in a beach hotel plus flights. Photoshoot took place on the beach, mountains, parks, sports grounds and in the city. Everything worked fine. They were happy and I was content with the results and the financial outcome of this job. Many of those images did not sell at all. Some had random sales and faded away, but there are a small number of those images that sell nearly every single day since they were uploaded. Those few images are the ones that have returned the cost of the photoshoot several times back to me and still working with very good results. To be honest when I started that project I was not sure I would make my money back.
So I am kind of optimistic for this new photoshoot possibility. But that does not mean that I will make my money back in this case. Will see.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 16, 2019, 10:12 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

Show me your data collection for 2019? You know, locations, number of artists, image totals for top 20 maybe?

Thanks for the filler on Andorra I never would have known. Here's some things I found which I'd say I still don't know much about Andorra. Andorra, according to the World Bank, is among top 15 countries with the highest GDP per capita. ... According to International living index, Andorra is a 12-th position in the world in terms of level and quality of life. Andorra is often considered as one of the safest countries in the world, and Andorra La Vella one of the safest European cities. The most used language is English, 38.8% of the Andorran population speak Catalan. To date, there are 516 Russians in Andorra. The immigration policy of the Principality is under control, and the number of immigrants is strictly quoted according to demands of the economy.

The link for "house poe production born after 2017" whatever that means, doesn't show anything. Got a link that works?  ;)

Reminder, true the location could be a lie and many accounts list no location. We don't know. This is simple the best information to indicate who has the largest accounts and where they are from. I don't know if SS actually checks the listed location. What I mean is, this is the best data available, if someone has better, please show us.

The data used for artists location was the 18,000 accounts that had over 1,000 images on SS at the time. Of course that could have changed, but the selection was designed to represent active contributors, not 300,000 accounts registered. (as an example, the number is now over 500,000)

But the question remains, show me your data, numbers and proof?

well don't have data but is pretty easy to see the influence of russia ukraine and serbia in  the database.. zillions of file...just search any lifestyle idea you will see the predominance of house of production born in eastern europe

the link is light field fotolia google it...it's from kiev in ukraine...450000 file in less than 2 years...they have many people working salary less than 600 dollar....model super cheap...try replicate it in usa. in serbia there is

https://shootset.com/search?p=22&sort=recommended&country=Serbia&radius=10

is a stock model agency...if you ever have browsed lifestyle content in fotolia with model release you will recognize thousand of photos with the same 10 20 model of this agency....
it's not that they love doing photos more than us...it's their cost areas cheap is still good to shoot lifestyle content....in italy good model cost 10 times the price i pay in ukraine....where i pay 10 dollarr hour and it's already much more than what many stocker from kiev pay.

In Serbia you pay 30$ for an average model but no model works for less than 20$ these days. Some with more experience have a wage as high as 65$/hr. So its pretty easy to see that an average set with 7-8 models will cost you around 1k. Not very expensive but not darn cheap either.

in serbia cost of life is one 4 of the rest of world...renting space is one tenth...model cost 30 dollar but you can find pretty darn good for 10 15 dollar.... it's not you or other serbian have more wish to shot is that you have cost 23 4 times inferior to the rest of the world...it's like producing cheap items in america or in china, it's not competitive for usa because cost are higher is the same....that'0s why most of house of production are in serbia russia and ukraine.
you have a portfolio that would have cost 5 times more than what you paid and you did in less than 2 3 year, try to work and produce such a portfolio in uk or italy ,, then you will see how much you would have earned and if you would have shot micro stock for living.....anyway next year i will move to belagreade for 2 months...already contacted many models from that agency and 30 dollar are for top notch model , other are happy with much less.

Jonbull do you mean 30, 10, 15 dollars per hour for models in Serbia?

from 10 to 30 dollar very good model. in ukraine 10 12 is enough , i was even quoted 15 from an agency for new faces..russia outside moscow is the same. but if you have good instagram you will be easily a requested photographer from lot of young teenager ready to improve their skill and have a bunch of photo for their instagram.. and believe me most of the time from model to non model the difference is minimal. they have a natural attitude in fronton camera written in dna.
Jonbull Prices you mention sound reasonable. I will try to contact some models for a couple of concepts I have in mind. Belgrade is not far from where I currently live - about one and a half hour flight. If financial terms end up positive, I can either fly to Belgrade or bring models to my location offering them an 8 day free vacation in an sea side airbnb villa with modern facilities including a pool, in exchange of their time - 5-6 hours photoshoot a day. TFV (time for vacation - flights included).  Will calculate costs and see if I should proceed or not.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 15, 2019, 16:53 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

Show me your data collection for 2019? You know, locations, number of artists, image totals for top 20 maybe?

Thanks for the filler on Andorra I never would have known. Here's some things I found which I'd say I still don't know much about Andorra. Andorra, according to the World Bank, is among top 15 countries with the highest GDP per capita. ... According to International living index, Andorra is a 12-th position in the world in terms of level and quality of life. Andorra is often considered as one of the safest countries in the world, and Andorra La Vella one of the safest European cities. The most used language is English, 38.8% of the Andorran population speak Catalan. To date, there are 516 Russians in Andorra. The immigration policy of the Principality is under control, and the number of immigrants is strictly quoted according to demands of the economy.

The link for "house poe production born after 2017" whatever that means, doesn't show anything. Got a link that works?  ;)

Reminder, true the location could be a lie and many accounts list no location. We don't know. This is simple the best information to indicate who has the largest accounts and where they are from. I don't know if SS actually checks the listed location. What I mean is, this is the best data available, if someone has better, please show us.

The data used for artists location was the 18,000 accounts that had over 1,000 images on SS at the time. Of course that could have changed, but the selection was designed to represent active contributors, not 300,000 accounts registered. (as an example, the number is now over 500,000)

But the question remains, show me your data, numbers and proof?

well don't have data but is pretty easy to see the influence of russia ukraine and serbia in  the database.. zillions of file...just search any lifestyle idea you will see the predominance of house of production born in eastern europe

the link is light field fotolia google it...it's from kiev in ukraine...450000 file in less than 2 years...they have many people working salary less than 600 dollar....model super cheap...try replicate it in usa. in serbia there is

https://shootset.com/search?p=22&sort=recommended&country=Serbia&radius=10

is a stock model agency...if you ever have browsed lifestyle content in fotolia with model release you will recognize thousand of photos with the same 10 20 model of this agency....
it's not that they love doing photos more than us...it's their cost areas cheap is still good to shoot lifestyle content....in italy good model cost 10 times the price i pay in ukraine....where i pay 10 dollarr hour and it's already much more than what many stocker from kiev pay.

In Serbia you pay 30$ for an average model but no model works for less than 20$ these days. Some with more experience have a wage as high as 65$/hr. So its pretty easy to see that an average set with 7-8 models will cost you around 1k. Not very expensive but not darn cheap either.

in serbia cost of life is one 4 of the rest of world...renting space is one tenth...model cost 30 dollar but you can find pretty darn good for 10 15 dollar.... it's not you or other serbian have more wish to shot is that you have cost 23 4 times inferior to the rest of the world...it's like producing cheap items in america or in china, it's not competitive for usa because cost are higher is the same....that'0s why most of house of production are in serbia russia and ukraine.
you have a portfolio that would have cost 5 times more than what you paid and you did in less than 2 3 year, try to work and produce such a portfolio in uk or italy ,, then you will see how much you would have earned and if you would have shot micro stock for living.....anyway next year i will move to belagreade for 2 months...already contacted many models from that agency and 30 dollar are for top notch model , other are happy with much less.

Jonbull do you mean 30, 10, 15 dollars per hour for models in Serbia?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: I QUIT iSTOCK
« on: September 20, 2019, 15:37 »
I am happy I stopped feeding them (iStock) two years ago. I did not regret it. I am a lifetime professional, now retired, and the last eight years I am doing stock for the fun of it. I enjoy the process.  All my life so far I have learned to create high quality photo works that stands up in both commercial photography business and  microstock markets. My Work is worth more than the pennies this shady iStock agency decides to pay. So in respect of the efforts I put to create my photos, I decided that iStock IS NOT QUALIFIED TO HAVE MY PHOTO WORKS ANY MORE. Further I would like to encourage all stock photo contributors who feel they are being "used" by agencies like iStock, to consider submitting their work to agencies that give Value to the Works they produce. I believe we all should keep in mind that Respecting Our Efforts translates to respecting ourselves.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Anormal vector processing time
« on: January 23, 2019, 18:26 »
Same here. I uploaded  some images in the last four hours but they show nowhere in Shutterstock. Tried uploading second time without success. Will try later on to see what happens.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: My Youtube Stock Video Life
« on: January 15, 2019, 16:06 »
Thanks for sharing. Very good and well done videos. Subscribed.

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Off Topic / Re: Peace On Earth
« on: December 25, 2018, 15:07 »
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everyone.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Alamy "good news"!
« on: December 05, 2018, 14:21 »
Reading through forums I noticed some positive comments about Alamy, so I thought I would give Alamy a try. I started uploading to them about a year ago, and so far I have a portfolio of about 650 of my best commercial images on that site, and keep uploading selected images on a regular basis. So far I have zero sales. Not even 1 small sale. I will give Alamy three more months hoping I will see my first sale on that agency. If the $$ balance is still zero then, I will delete my portfolio and my account with them. Too much effort for no income. 

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Adobe Stock / Re: Inaccurate Data showing at FT
« on: October 03, 2018, 13:30 »
In the last three weeks I had a sudden drop of 80% in downloads. In last eight days 100% drop no downloads at all first time in my History with Fotolia/Adobe. If anyone from the agency is listening here, I would appreciate to have an explanation of this sudden change. This unusual sales drop prevents me of uploading new files on a regular, nearly daily basis. My rule: When I upload to stock agencies I expect that some of the images will sell. 

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Slow server
« on: September 13, 2018, 13:31 »
Same here. Shutterstock servers DO HAVE A PROBLEM. Uploading takes ages and creates errors in Filezilla and other software I use to upload. Often files arrive corrupted.
Other sites I upload to, uploading is fast and no problem.

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iStock = filthy, sticky crooks. I have stopped uploading there two years ago. I do have about 4000 images on their site, but they will not see my photos any more. I am still waiting for  a payout since I stopped uploading. I do well with SS and FT, and that is where I regularly upload my photos.

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MicrostockSubmitter / Re: Weird behaviour
« on: March 06, 2018, 11:48 »
I experienced  similar strange behavior yesterday and not resolved yet.
I went on a tree weeks trip and therefore I didn't use StockSubmitter for that time frame.
Turned on my computer last night and started StockSubmitter. The software performed the updates, and when started I noticed that none of the already images had the model release attached. I always have a back up copy of the stocksubmitter  configuration (SSB) and tried to import the previous configuration (three weeks old). I was presented with a window telling me to choose the file I wanted to import. I went through the import process but nothing changed. Model releases were not there. Had no problem with metadata. Of course I do have backup file of everything I have on the hard drive, so no worries there.
To avoid further problems, closed the software turned my computer off, and I am thinking of trying tonight again. I am not sure if reinstalling the software will resolve the issue. Otherwise I might have to rebuild my model releases file in stocksubmitter, and use for new uploads. Will see.
Any advice will be appreciated.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas!
« on: December 25, 2017, 06:58 »
Merry Christmas to all of you.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas!
« on: December 25, 2017, 06:55 »
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Had a quick look on this thief's site. Found lots of my images being offered for free there. Probably my entire SS portfolio is stolen. I really am furious. Like you all, I also have worked hard to produce these image. Not to mention the expenses for each of the photo shoots. Any suggestions as to what we can do? I would like to wipe them off the internet if possible. Their hosting provider as well.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IStock October sales in
« on: November 18, 2017, 15:35 »
I was making good sales with iStock. That was before Getty. Now days my iStock sales are down the drains. I have about 3000 images with them. I was hoping things would get better. I was wrong. I Have not uploaded to them since September 2016. Getty's iStock will not see MY images anymore. And that because I respect my time and the work I do. Weather Mr Getty likes it or not, the images I create belong to me, and not to iStock. Therefore I demand to have full control over my property, and a reasonable  income that would motivate me to produce images for them. Shutterstock and Fotolia are my priorities at the moment.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Call for content
« on: May 17, 2017, 04:09 »
Adobe Stock/FOTLIA calls for content. On the other hand they do their best to discourage contributors.

I am very frustrated and I am fed up with Adobe Stock/FOTOLIA rejections of a number of my images for lack of aesthetic or commercial appeal, intellectual property violation, artifacts problem or technical errors. The images they reject for those reasons are accepted and doing well on other agencies.
So if Mat is listening in this forum I want to tell Adobe that:

I am knowledgeable about photography and related processing software. I have successfully been practicing photography for many years, and I am a contributor for several years now. And no I can not accept that another "photographer" reviews and classifies my work as "lack of aesthetic or commercial appeal, intellectual property violation, artifacts problem or technical errors" without giving me a real good reason.

1. My photos contain no noise and/or artifacts of any sort, and they do have a model and Property releases when needed.
2. When my photos are shot all photographic composition and other image quality factors are taken in consideration for each image.
3. I post process all my images using exactly the same procedures and techniques.
4. In regard to intellectual property violation, Adobe Stock/Fotolia has already accepted many images and similar series shot in the same areas, and under the same conditions with those rejected.

I understand rejections may occasionally  happen; however, those reviewing  the image, should specify the exact reason the image was rejected for. Show me where the noise or artifact is, tell me why should I provide a property release for the image in question, tell me why the image lacks aesthetic and commercial appeal

Hope I get an answer....

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I get very frustrated and I am fed up with Adobe Stock/FOTOLIA rejections for lack of aesthetic or commercial appeal, intellectual property violation, artifacts problem or technical errors. The images they reject for those reasons are accepted and doing well on other agencies.
If Mat is listening in this forum I want to tell Adobe that:

I am knowledgeable about photography and related processing software. I am a contributor for several years now.

1. My photos contain no noise and/or artifacts of any sort, and they do have a model and Property releases when needed.
2. When my photos are shot all photographic composition and other image quality factors are taken in consideration
3. I post process all my images using the same techniques
4. In regard to intellectual property violation, Adobe Stock/Fotolia has already accepted many images shot in the same areas and under the same conditions with those rejected

I understand rejections may occasionally  happen; however, those reviewing  the image, should specify the exact reason the image was rejected for. Show me where the noise or artifact is, tell me why should I provide a property release for the image in question, tell me why the image lacks aesthetic and commercial appeal

Hope I get an answer.

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