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for this case an extended license is actually necessary? He sells the product (video) whose real value is the video.
He doesn't sell the video. They all are like movie cinema, collecting ticket fee per view, views interact with platform adds and transformed into cents and dollars

Some examples just to illustrate the topic:

The musician who contacted me at first place and his channel , link to one of my my clips to illustrate master's music - . In his channel he must have 50+ of my clips. He at least bought videos and at least added something to them, his own music.

Another example , this guy did nothing except expanding the loop to 10 hours, sounds and colors untouched - . He re-distributes 10+ of my clips

And many, many other examples across Youtube.

 A little backstory.

I was contacted by one YouTuber in order to provide him for free my video clips. In return I supposed to get a promotion, wide audience and other warm crap we all so familiar with. I just ignored his offer, but decided to have a look what the guy is actually doing. His niche is relaxing nature backgrounds with music he composed himself. He seems a nice fellow and good musician, he buys licenses on stock sites, adds melody and keeps organized his channel. He even openly tells in some of video descriptions where he bought the clip and from who. I typed a few keywords in search and quickly found dozens of my videos on similar channels. Many don't bother even replacing sound. All channels are monetized and get paid through YouTube partner program per 10k views or per promo click. Many clips with estimate return of 400-6000 usd

I am not a Copyright maniac and I am glad that people enjoy my vids, but I felt that I am loosing something. Many of my nature clips are loops or easy-to-loop and by purpose static, I aimed them as backgrounds for SPA or similar Zen-like atmosphere usage. Many of my clips contain relaxing sound which eases things for youtubers. But for any salon or spa it's easier to play YouTube on-line and be covered. The topic is ambiguous. Stock agencies see platforms like YouTube as big market and grant to buyers full right for re-distribution hiding behind the concept of new interpretation of original material or maybe even not hiding as I see that many of artworks including photos, music and vectors are not undergoing any creative change at all and re-sold as it is on such sites as Etsy, Redbubble, YouTube and many other sites. Pond5 has wide license allowance and promises full protection and assistance for buyers in cases of copyright disputes, SS rounds corners and is more on buyer's side than on creator's. It's pretty understandable - buyers bring money, creators are just a renewable source.

What is clear.
-Stock Agencies are cool and keen to provide for such open re-distribution.
-Platforms and markets are OK until copyright ownership is claimed

What is not clear.
- If I upload the same video to YouTube what will happen? The guy is covered by license . Who has the priority?
- If I upload to YouTube prior uploading to stock and the guy uploads after me having the license form stock to do so, will YouTube accept his upload?

Why don't just cool off and let good people who don't steal but purchase our stock material make some money? Am I overreacting?
I am concerned not about the fact that they make money but about the way the do it. It's like one more middle-man on top on another, they are not final consumers and not fair creative minds using stock material in work needs but sneaky straightforward businessmen.

What do you think guys? Should we protect our market and take the battle on new grounds. Would preventive methods as uploading prior to YouTube make any difference? Or just accept new reality with other sides of over-lasting sexual intercourse we all are going through since agencies reviewed their attitude toward content creators.

1)  SS    

2)  Pond5
   (1/2 of ss)

3)  Fotolia  (1/5 of ss)

4)  VideoBlocks (1/6 of ss)

5)  123RF  (1//9 of ss)

6)  Depositphotos  (1/90 of ss)

I do not upload to other agencies. My current portfolio on all above marketplaces is roughly 3500 clips. I had great expectations for Videoblocks and it was doing pretty good in 2016 but now lost its position. 123rf also used to be better with sales in the past. The lose was compensated by Adobe/Fotolia which I believe can become good and solid earner for me in near future.
Thanks for sharing the info LP! 

General Stock Discussion / Re: Agency Analytics for Video
« on: March 17, 2017, 16:24 »
I use Stock Performer plugin for that purpose (Eagle Plan). You can give it a try, they have one month free trial if I remember correctly.

Once you used to it it's difficult to go back checking statistics and revenues yourself and creating analytic graphs in the end of each month..

The tomorrow always begins today. I am pretty satisfied working with VB so far but signs of what I was dreaded in beginning already showed up. There were several attempts to buy content from contributors to include it to their free collection. And they are very flexible in what is concerning the price and the rights. As for the cases I now they wanted limited rights so the user could sell the same videos on other sites. The compensation offer was rather silly, something about 70$ per clip for selected clips but after the refusal they were more than ready to negotiate further. The future of such politics you can imagine by yourself. And the royalty cut will seem much less evil than big competive collection under membership plan.

8 / Re: Shutterstock forum doesn't load properly
« on: October 18, 2015, 15:35 »
Same here. It doesn't work for me too.
Until the moment I was sure that my current location causes this (I live in Thailand) , but now I see maybe I was wrong.
Safari opens these links well, but with Firefox I have the same exactly problems. :-\

Русский форум / Re: Добро пожаловать
« on: October 01, 2014, 03:55 »
Разобрался! Нужно было создать хотя бы одно сообщение на форуме и функция разблокировалась. Thanks a lot!

Русский форум / Re: Добро пожаловать
« on: October 01, 2014, 03:28 »
Всем привет!

У меня вопрос новичка - Не могу найти способа отправить личное сообщение тут на форуме? Куда запрятана эта функция, если она конечно есть?
Всем удачи и хороших продаж ) !

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