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« on: May 02, 2023, 07:46 »
If the other 3 billion people on the planet without internet access can ever get online, then even just 0.1 percent (3 million) of these new users who become customers and consumers of stock imagery will boost contributor earnings substantially imho.
It takes some time also for them to adapt to copyright standards. There is no way India for example would practice ethical copyright standards any time soon if they all earn 1 world wages tomorrow. By then AI has probably taken over.
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« on: April 14, 2023, 11:12 »
Resistance is futile. To late to change the course of AI. The guy that asked if his 50 dollar is for the last month, let me say it's the last payment for dataset. All your 2500 files were scraped you got 2 cent each. Now they are working on making you obsolete and then you will never get a payment again. So enjoy while it lasts.
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« on: January 01, 2023, 01:28 »
I just got an email from SS titled: Contributor earnings now reflect generative AI Here's the first paragraph of the email:
News for artist recognition in advanced technology worldwide, and news for Shutterstock contributors!
You will now accrue royalties when your IP is used in the training of AI-generative models or used for licensing of generative assets created using Shutterstocks software. Contributing artists can view their earnings in their account in the Earnings Summary 'By month' tab as 'Contributor fund.'
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, but otherwise, I will not allow that, when given the option.
problem is, you've already given them permission according to the TOS you agreed to. SS may choose to allow people to opt out but haven't done so yet
I understand that.
This is what SS specified in their FAQ:
Can I opt out of having my content included in future datasets / data deals?
Yes, in the coming months we will be adding an option in the contributor account settings that will allow you to opt out of having your content included in future datasets, also known as data deals.
Translates to "when we are done processing your images you will be able to opt out"
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« on: December 30, 2022, 15:28 »
Yeah it's an obvious move to minimize potential legal damage.
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« on: December 30, 2022, 07:52 »
I just got an email from SS titled: Contributor earnings now reflect generative AI Here's the first paragraph of the email:
News for artist recognition in advanced technology worldwide, and news for Shutterstock contributors!
You will now accrue royalties when your IP is used in the training of AI-generative models or used for licensing of generative assets created using Shutterstocks software. Contributing artists can view their earnings in their account in the Earnings Summary 'By month' tab as 'Contributor fund.'
This is gonna be a few cents so they are able to reduce the likelihood of a successful lawsuit. And it is gonna be only for a few years until we are completely phased out.
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« on: December 03, 2022, 15:07 »
... What I wanted to highlight is the fact that a contributor should be eligible for a commision every time when the image created with that topic is sold. ...
how would you decide from the generator phrase which images among millions were used in the training set? eg "penguin in a top hat walking on mars'
once training is done, no images are actually accessed during the creation of AI images
Yeah we all get inspired, just because I took inspiration from photo x doesn't mean that my new work has to pay royalties to photo x. They obviously not gonna share royalties with us.
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« on: December 03, 2022, 14:35 »
I am pretty sure when McDonalds flood over the world from 1953 on, it took out tens of thousands restaurants especially steak houses. What you are talking about is that they NOW coexist, with a highly reduced number of steak houses.
Different markets. Sure the hamburger joints and cafes or lunch counters got mostly eliminated by fast food and drive through restaurants. But the good sit down restaurants didn't lose out to someplace where Mom's take the kids for a fast lunch or someone on the road, grabs something. Different quality and different markets.
I said:
The company you work for, must have pretty low standards for their image needs, if they can use images created by Open-AI or the rest. None I've ever seen, are good enough as stock, without editing and adjusting or filling in missing parts.
And the reasoning wasn't to insult your company, but to point out that AI images are not good enough yet, to replace agency subscriptions. Maybe for fast food, burgers and fries, but not for quality meals, steaks and baked potatoes?  If someone has to work to fix and repair the AI images, that is not efficient use of time, and it will cost more to work that way.
Yeah different markets now, but the fast food market didn't existed before 53, so many opted for steakhouses for their meat cravings. But when McDonald's entered the market they had a cheaper and faster option and that killed a lot of business for the traditional restaurants. Obviously they are different markets now because they both exist now. Ai didn't exist a few years ago but it does now and the progress they are making is breathtaking. Did you check recently? Here's an Adobe link: https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=AI+generated+woman&search_type=usertypedIt honestly gives me cold shivers seeing the artwork that comes out of the AI. Looking at the illustrations at least the machine is the superior steak to 99% humans already and faster and cheaper on top it.
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« on: December 03, 2022, 11:32 »
McDonalds
McDonalds is not a popular restaurant in the US. Few people go there. There are many other chains where people go and where it tastes better. The quality that McDonalds offers is not suitable for Americans. Yes, McDonalds is popular in Europe, but not in the US.
you just have to look up the number 1 restaurant chain in the US. Good try though lol
Why should I look, I was there, I lived there, I saw everything with my own eyes. And I repeat, at McDonalds in the USA, food is much worse than in other similar restaurants.
And do you have to contribute anything to the real discussion here? You derailed it with hilariously wrong facts and your personal opinion about fast food... Good job.
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« on: December 03, 2022, 11:28 »
McDonalds
McDonalds is not a popular restaurant in the US. Few people go there. There are many other chains where people go and where it tastes better. The quality that McDonalds offers is not suitable for Americans. Yes, McDonalds is popular in Europe, but not in the US.
you just have to look up the number 1 restaurant chain in the US. Good try though lol
Why should I look, I was there, I lived there, I saw everything with my own eyes. And I repeat, at McDonalds in the USA, food is much worse than in other similar restaurants.
OK, sure facts don't matter. For example that the chain that you described as unpopular is the number 1 restaurant chain in the US. But ramble on my dude.
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« on: December 03, 2022, 09:26 »
McDonalds
McDonalds is not a popular restaurant in the US. Few people go there. There are many other chains where people go and where it tastes better. The quality that McDonalds offers is not suitable for Americans. Yes, McDonalds is popular in Europe, but not in the US.
you just have to look up the number 1 restaurant chain in the US. Good try though lol
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« on: December 03, 2022, 08:53 »
The company you work for, must have pretty low standards for their image needs, if they can use images created by Open-AI or the rest. None I've ever seen, are good enough as stock, without editing and adjusting or filling in missing parts.
McDonald's is not putting any steak house out of business, but they both sell beef.
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I am pretty sure when McDonalds flood over the world from 1953 on, it took out tens of thousands restaurants especially steak houses. What you are talking about is that they NOW coexist, with a highly reduced number of steak houses.
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« on: October 26, 2022, 07:09 »
A few things people need to realize:
1. the Genie is out of the bottle and wont go back in
2. SS or any other agency is not your friend
3. they will go the cheapest route to get rid of us and use our content legally to train the AI
4. they already used our content in "datasets", even if you opt out they gonna use the already established datasets. The opt out is just a throwaway token to keep the backlash lower.
5. do not get your hopes high that the "payout" for training our new AI overlord will be decent. Both companies profit from that deal, OpenAI gets to train the AI and SS gets to sell generated images. The money exchanged therefore will be minimal and will be a throwaway token to keep us a bit calmer and make it easy for the lawyers.
6. we probably agreed to the training by some clause in the terms of service, you can be sure they covered their legal ass before backstabbing us
7. the AI will learn by itself once user interactions are plentiful. Meaning it will determine trends and good images by what is sold and what is clicked on.
8. The bias argument already came up a few months ago and OpenAI addressed it by filtering in a bunch of black and asian looking "humans"
9. get strapped in because it is not going away, we maybe have a year left. Adjust now.
Farewell and godspeed.
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« on: March 06, 2022, 09:30 »
Is it possible on stock video sites to upload two related videos in one clip?
Just watched an Ikea commercial where a dog jumps up the drawer and then watches out of the window to look for its owner. The second clip on its own (the dog looking out the window) would probably sell but the first (jumping up the drawer) is kind of a setup and on its own would not do well in terms of sales. Is it allowed to upload a sequence of two clips like in the example in one asset with one cut?
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« on: August 26, 2017, 08:08 »
I sometimes have an issue with Pond5 - it is the captcha that catches me out. Sometimes the new window with the Pond5 sign-in just sits there and nothing happens, and sometimes I get the captcha appearing and I can complete that and the program signs in. I think it has also worked when I separately go to Pond5 in a browser window and sign in there. I tend to ignore it and then when it does next log in, it will submit all the previous images. A bit delayed, but nothing lost.
Steve
Thx Steve will try that! Cheers!
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« on: August 26, 2017, 08:07 »
For Pond5 I'd recommend the following:
- restart your router/modem;
- disable firewall on your router/modem;
- disable antivirus;
- try another ISP.
For iStock - no, there is no such an option at the moment.
Pond: Are you working on a fix since I dont have a firewall running nor antivirus. Will try loggin with a hotspot from my iphone Istock: This is the only option thats holding me back from ditching Deepmeta. Could you pls implement it? Im a paying customer, cheers!
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« on: August 26, 2017, 07:19 »
Hi everyone,
Im just started using Stocksubmitter so maybe I missed something.
The login for Pond5 doesn't seem to work (upload works, submission doesn't), the loading symbol keeps spinning forever. I tried logging in in incognito mode on chrome and it works, so it seems to be an issue with Stocksubmitter. Can anyone help?
And the second thing I came across: Is there really no option to choose signature plus for photos on Istock somewhere in stocksubmitter?
Thx in advance!
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