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Everything is confessed here by Apple in this new advertisement.
But it seems that they have decided to abandon its broadcast. This undoubtedly betrays the discomfort of having demonstrated honesty and sincerity with this particularly dystopian message.
But it's still online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjkwIXWtrc

We of course all have in mind the famous Apple advertisement of 1984, 40 years ago already...

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Your positioning is clear. And you have some nerve to intervene on this post.  ;D
You should look for the post with the petition: "Come on people! Signing! PRO AI"  ::)
or go and pour out your views on the numerous posts that praise all the advantages of AI

Unfortunately, the vast majority of those who still speak here are won over by AI.
Otherwise, the approach of this petition is commendable. But, I doubt Adobe will change its policy, they enjoy an all-powerful situation. And they dare to talk about ethics...

as I have already said,I am in favor of the petition,I hope it will be accepted.  :)
I think creating using AI is a good thing,but placing a limit on the AI ​​content that can be uploaded is an equally good thing.
I believe that 500 AI contents in queue per account are more than enough,it seems like a good wide limit to me.
but in any case mine is a limited vision,while Adobe has a broader vision of the situation,so I'm more than sure that they will do the best thing.

Since you are still here, the principle of unfair competition, of large-scale theft of intellectual property, does that speak to you, does that revolt you?

Do you have any idea of the work and time required to produce 500 professional quality images (photo, 3d, vector...) of 500 different subjects, for someone who does not use AI?

And frankly, your endless praise for Adobe...  ::)

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I understand your frustration,...

Talking about frustration seems quite contemptuous to me, this is about notorious incompetence on the part of Adobe, inability to master the tools they develop, total injustice for the people impacted by their catastrophic management of these technologies .
And we could also talk about the client side, the collection becomes a rather questioning mix.

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then as I already said,in my opinion basing a portfolio only on AI is a mistake in the long term,just as not making AI content is a mistake too!

Your positioning is clear. And you have some nerve to intervene on this post.  ;D
You should look for the post with the petition: "Come on people! Signing! PRO AI"  ::)
or go and pour out your views on the numerous posts that praise all the advantages of AI

Unfortunately, the vast majority of those who still speak here are won over by AI.
Otherwise, the approach of this petition is commendable. But, I doubt Adobe will change its policy, they enjoy an all-powerful situation. And they dare to talk about ethics...

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If you want do complaint for the theft and resale of your images to Shutterstock,
https://shutterstock.my.site.com/support/s/dmcacomplaint?language=en_US
you have to tick and agree this in the form: 

"I understand that Shutterstock may provide the affected user with a full copy of this complaint, including my full name, email, street address, and any other information included in my report, and may provide a version to third parties, if requested."

"Note that any abuse of this form may result in the termination of your customer or contributor account."
But, thieves only risk deleting of the files concerned... "you may request that the content be removed from Shutterstock"

Let's be reassured, Shutterstock is very respectful of thieves >:(

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The first copy of the black doctor has three arms, yours has two, which is proof that there was no plagiarism ;)

Personally, I no longer look for all the thefts and copies of my images, because this is very discouraging. I stopped the day when on Shutterstock, by clicking on one of my top sellers, more than 10 identical images in thieves' portfolios appeared. They don't care, they take the money.

[Edit]: Don't go clicking on your best sellers on Shutterstock. I just did it again, it's incredible, we could spend whole days reporting thieves. I am disgusted. And they do nothing.

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I sympathize, it's sad such bad faith and betrayal on the part of Adobe.  :-[
(You should have clarified that your images were 3D renderings, not AI-generated images in the first place).
Proof that Adobe has no desire to protect its authors. And this can also be done from photos...

Some AI ​​prompters here will say that we must know how to adapt, that there is no point in refusing technological developments.  >:(

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The AI generation is the dream for incompetent, lazy people who don't even have respect for the word "artist", who were previously only capable of producing photographic craps. Even ignorant kids play to destroy this previous world by using these new technological toys without even having to leave their room, ...

yes, definitely! always attack all the users rather than accepting the world is changing

exactly like the disparagement of mobile pix before they mastered the market.

resistance is futile

It is not the question of accepting changes but of being aware of a technological revolution.
It's not about resisting, it's about choosing more freedom and prefering true life and true creation.

The real can still be beautiful and fascinating.

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5) Practice counting the number of fingers
6) complain about image validation time
7) Claim everywhere that you are an Artist who adapts perfectly to his time and can finally realize himself ;D

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The AI generation is the dream for incompetent, lazy people who don't even have respect for the word "artist", who were previously only capable of producing photographic craps. Even ignorant kids play to destroy this previous world by using these new technological toys without even having to leave their room, under the watchful eye of their parents who see them as little geniuses.
But soon, they will wake up from this dream of easy money and realize that they have been the tool of these technologies which will shamelessly eject them from the production chain.

edit: My joke of the day: Do you want hands with 5 fingers? well, write in your AI prompt to generate 4-fingered hands ...  ;D

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I also used to print on paper with my enlarger and work in the darkroom,and that's how I earned in the 80s and 90s

Just a question: are you retired?

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General - Top Sites / Re: WireStock removed sales today
« on: May 05, 2024, 13:31 »
Happened same with me, I noticed few sales from envato, after few hours they disappeared from my wirestock account.

I contacted wirestock support
This is the response that I received

"Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've checked with our financial team, and these sales were removed as they were not yet finalized and confirmed.
Please rest assured as those will be added to your dashboard/balance in the coming weeks, and most likely there will be more than what you've seen.
 
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
 
Best wishes,
Ike".

But today I received mail from payoneer that my payment from wirestock is on the way.
But those missing sales were not added to the balance that I am about to receive from wirestock.

Maybe "in the coming weeks" <> "today"

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shift happens - join or wither
Another shift will happen later for all those ephemeral human generators who 'joined'

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@DiscreetDuck
...let's try to understand for example how to behave or when to label AI content and when not,and what we can do and what not.
Adobe should name "AI generated Images", and exclude any of them from the term "Photo".
Playing on ambiguity, they don't really want to separate the naming of these two types of content. Guess why...

What would Adobe say to photography contributors who don't want to use AI? Either you produce with AI, or your content will be permanently drowned? (by photos that are not)

Is unfair competition still a relevant concept?

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Scaling moderation capabilities by:
  • Doubling the size of our expert human moderation team who specialize in content review
  • Creating and training the team on new generative AI specific policies and best practices
  • Introducing specific generative AI moderation systems to efficiently categorize and review content for any potential policy violations
  • Refining our audit systems to monitor the existing collection more efficiently for content that may violate our new generative AI policies
  • Reviewing and removing thousands of existing assets from Stock and continuing to actively monitor the full Adobe Stock collection
So, the distance between a blog post and a dedicated forum is... one week.  ;)

'You' see here, they only talk about content, the contributor already no longer exists when it comes to moderation.
The future is autonomous Adobe, without (or with a minimum) of contributing suppliers, with less(no) royalties to pay, but an in-house team to manage the content and systems. And all customers will be so happy to feel like artists...
All this will be in their financial interest, it will inevitably happen!
AI content don't belong to contributors. Soon, AI content will no longer come from contributors.

The brainless prompters sheeps will realize too late, once they are ejected by autonomous systems and will come here to complain en masse. See you very soon!
They will still be able to apply for a job to join the "expert human moderation generation team" at Adobe... but it will be a small enclosure for a small herd.

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The days of stock images as a means of subsistence are numbered, we are much closer to the end than we imagined.
Sure

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Matt:  I've had illustrations rejected by Adobe because:

- Non compliant use of another artists name.
- Undeclared Generative AI Content

This is not true - I don't use and have never used AI.

Do I risk getting banned from Adobe from incorrect AI rejections?

Thanks
Cat
Proof of their incompetence in handling situations. They are barely capable of giving a marketing speech, everything is fine, we are managing!
And the contempt for honest contributors from the start is growing, as they depend less and less on them. The contributor community is divided, great for them, they can rule.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe has blocked my account
« on: April 25, 2024, 04:40 »
On 12.03.24 Adobe has blocked my account with a portfolio of over 50,000 images and over $2000 on it because of "terms violation".
I dont work with AI Generators, I have no idea why the account was deactivated and what I can do to reactivate it.
 After using the contract form, I still haven't received a response (over a month). On Discord they just tell me to keep waiting.

I find it very unpleasant to keep someone in the dark for so long and to be at the mercy of it all


This is ridiculous.  Adobe needs to do better.

You know the details and facts, could you explain how they could do better and why this is ridiculous?

I Ignore posts from blvdone (and some other ridiculous posts), it saves me time  ;)

I don't say it's the case here, but even a thief can come and complain on this forum, he will be supported by some ridiculous people.

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123RF / Re: AI Images that were under Photos deleted
« on: April 24, 2024, 17:20 »
So when there was no "AI Images" upload type yet, 123RF accepted AI Images as photos (last year)

I had over 1000 images accepted with all needed keywords and titles, marking them as AI.

They were selling ok, but, last month sales dropped 90% and Images were just deleted, not moved to AI images, deleted.

1000+ approved images removed from site without even saying anything, I have no words.

Good news if they want to clean their collection. AI image is not a photo. As a customer, I would be please not to get AI images in download, described as true photographies. It's fake, and lying.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe has blocked my account
« on: April 23, 2024, 13:58 »
This seems extremely shocking.   :o
Really, I doubt Adobe would do this sort of thing lightly.
Your portfolio had 200k images in 2021, 50k in 2024?

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Did Adobe steal something?No
Did Midjourney steal something?Yes
What about the notion of receiving stolen goods?
And make it the source (even partial) of a business?

so you assume that content generated by AI is stolen content?
so if you have AI content in your portfolio you are a thief too! :D
whereas if you don't have AI content in your portfolio,you are consistent with your ideas,and I respect that,but I don't agree with it! :)

Of course, I will NEVER generate and/or sell a single AI fake photo.
Does pushing a "generate" button makes you copyright owner?

At ADOBE Stock:

-> https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/submission-guidelines.html
Content submission guidelines
[...] Content submissions made using generative artificial intelligence (AI) tools must meet the Generative AI Guidelines.

-> https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html
Ensure you have the appropriate rights to submit.
You must have all the necessary rights to submit generative AI images, vectors or videos to Adobe Stock for licensing as described in our Contributor Terms

-> https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20220415.pdf
Adobe Stock Contributor Agreement
Additional Terms to Adobe General Terms of Use
Published March 1, 2022. Effective as of April 15, 2022. Replaces all prior versions.

IP Rights. You represent and warrant that you own all rights, title, and interest in and to the Work, including all
copyrights, trademarks, patents, rights of privacy, rights of publicity, moral rights, and other proprietary rights (collectively, IP
Rights), or have all necessary rights and license to grant us the licenses under the Terms.

5. Payment
If you are not the copyright owner of a Work, you are solely responsible for compensating such copyright owner(s) where applicable.

You will se in the Future. And sorry, but the Future is no today, but tomorrow...

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Did Adobe steal something?No
Did Midjourney steal something?Yes
What about the notion of receiving stolen goods?
And make it the source (even partial) of a business?

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Sadly today's world is a fake world of fake food, fake textiles, fake movies, false human relationships and so on. Of course as continuation today we have fake photos. I'm positive person, but that is the reality.
The people want a lot, want it fast and cheap and here we go, the cheap fast photos(just like fast food, fast fashion..) are here.
Totally agree.

Talent accessible to all, without learning, without effort, immediately and without singularity.

The reward right away, but without all the steps that precede it. False satisfaction, because true satisfaction comes at the end of error and effort.

Skill is no longer necessary, everyone can. We advocate diversity but in the same time kill authenticity.

The reign of the artificial, without truth, without soul.

We even reprogram the values. And most humans with software from another time are silent, the ignorants express themselves so much everywhere.

But machines amalgamate and regurgitate, they do not and will never create anything (except the abyss into which humans collapse with joy).  ;)

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