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But this was then a general statements about the swans observed so far and did not exclude the possibility that black swans may be discovered elsewhere.

If someone theorized about black adult swans in 17th century Europe, than they spoke about something that had not yet been observed, but might well exist, according to the knowledge of the time.

So I hope you see the difference to the UFO theories today. They not only make claims that have not yet been proven true, but may well be true, but they make claims that are very unlikely to be true. Just like swans spewing fire or abducting people.

No, you don't get the metaphor, you're just trying to convolute it.

For what it's worth, our knowledge of the Universe and the wider reality is not much greater than the knowledge of the Earth's fauna in 17th century Europe. "claims that are very unlikely to be true" - unlikely within our very limited (mainstream) understanding of reality?

You just assume that the UFO phenomenon doesn't involve non-human intelligence, reject all kinds of proposed hypotheses, and yet you cannot formulate any other sensible hypothesis. Pure denial and nothing alternative to contribute.

A black-swan event is a single event that completely destroys a theory or a worldview. And therefore, denialism is an intellectually risky position, because it can be destroyed by such a single black-swan event.

In fact, I am a believer in black swans. I just saw a pair of them a few days ago in a zoo.

I do not believe in swans abducting people, though. So, show me comparable evidence for extraterrestial involvement in the "UFO phenomenon" and I'll become a believer there, too.

It is a known scientific fact that aliens have indeed infiltrated the air space of the planet and further more landed craft on numerous ocassions. You just choose to believe this is not possible despite evidence to the contrary.

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And there are pro-disclosure and anti-disclosure factions within the US government.
Any information about UFOs should not fall into the hands of the Russians or China. All technologies of extraterrestrial origin are a secret and a military secret.

Ironically it is those very countries that are now leading the thrust to disclosure. America isn't even close. And as of Friday has taken steps (c/o Senator Mike Turner) to ensure that remains the case. Russia and China are being and have been very explicit and open about their knowledge and I terractions with UAP. The leader regarding disclosure appears to be Brazil. The UK remains firm that it ceased investigations in 2009 and has not re-instated any such programmes. This is a lie as it is part of the 5 eyes group and as such liased along with America to task Canada to co-operate with potential retrieval of "something" from Alaska earlier this year.

Further more the UK have deliberately taken certain steps to prevent the public finding out about certain cases. Rendlesham being the most infamous but there is a lesser known case. The Calvine incident in Scotland. Now whatever your beliefs regarding UAP and origins the Calvine incident is one of the most significant. It has typically slipped under the radar of popular ufology but there are about to be some changes regarding that case.

The short version is that two poachers happened upon a large ufo in Scotland. They took photos as proof and ran. They approached a paper to publicise the case. The paper approached a local military station for comment because the poachers interacted with the ufo as two fighter jets. A military representative was contacted by the paper and asked to see the photos. They obliged and then quite a bit happens.

The case was investaged by the MOD and they have held the details of that case under the official secrets act. This prevented disclosure of the details of the case until mandatory release some 30 years later. 30 years expired in 2020. release of information under foi was greatly anticipated but just prior to the 30 year expiry date being reached .....

.... the Ministry of Defence stepped in and extended the time period to a new date: 2076. The official claim is that parts of the file are open for download but details of individuals involved have been redacted until this time frame to protect individuals privacy. The MOD deny they saw any photographs and that any jets were involved. The FOI requests states that the negatives which had been leant to the MOD were returned to the newspaper at the time.

It is acts like this by governmental bodies that fuel speculation about UAP and their origins. Clearly withholding information. The whereabouts of the poachers is a mystery. Maybe they'll read this and come foreward. Who knows. If only the pictures hadn't been confiscated and no record of them found. This was certainly the case. Until recently

So the phenomena is global. Allegedly all the major powers possess them. No country has managed to get very far in researching them. Allegedly. But they are not limited to blurry dots on grainy film. The phoenix craft was reported on numerous ocassions to be 1 to 2 miles long. A police officer took out his speed gun and fired it at the craft registering 22 mph.

The Calvine UFO ...

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I am certain you have made more than one petition for this thread to be closed along with your chums and a ban put in place but a moderator would probably examine your contributions and would have to bury you for months in exclusion.
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glad you're certain you know what  i've done. i made no such petition - among several others, i have the ability to ban a user who continually violates forum rules after several warnings. i've done this twice in the last 15 years

Then your behaviour is even more reprehensible.

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How embarrassing ... "or looking at the facts". Wow. Clearly isn't keeping up with any news at all. Hasnt read the posts at all. Hasn't verified any facts. Jesus utterly toe curling. Apprently this is an ad hominem attack. The claim of a hypocritic fool, particularly as the majority of her histrionics were personal in nature....
emphasis added

wow - hoist on your own petard in a single sentence!

-- you ask for facts when you provide none
-- you ask that we read your posts & links while admitting you  havent bothered to do so
-- you continue ad hominems rather than respond to the content

are you really asking to be banned? you've already been given more leniency that people who have been banned for much less.  but then, i guess a ban would just prove your conspiracy theories.

I am certain you have made more than one petition for this thread to be closed along with your chums and a ban put in place but a moderator would probably examine your contributions and would have to bury you for months in exclusion.

You should buy a book on sayings and do some research. Totally cringe.

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John Greenwald Jr -

John is onwer of black vault.com which stores results of a tonne of freedom of information requests. It is a very good resource. John began 26 years ago and is extremely knowledgeable on the laws surrounding FOI requests and what someone is entitled to know.

However this year John began submitted FOI requests to AARO specifying particular events that are public knowledge and a matter of public record now. However Sean Kirkpatric has taken a extremely unusual and probably unlawful step to prevent complying with any FOI requests. He has invoked the law enforcement exception to withold any information pertaining to the submitted FOIs. AARO is not a law enforcement agency and has no powers in this respect and yet has been using that legislation to avoid a response.

At present Congress it appears does not have a mechanism to prevent him doing so.

John has sent 11 follow up letters and appeals and has been ignored. Utterly extraordinary behaviour from a governmental body. Particularly as Kirkpatric has stated (not under oath and that is exceptionally relevant) to congress that AARO have not  investigated anything that is of a non mundane explanation. A claim that has since been voided by AAROs own hurriedly erected website which shows UAP that have not be explained even after their investigations.

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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Now mummies from space. Don't ruin the childish fantasy with made up stories. This is total nonsense.

As you apparently have nothing constructive or interesting to contribute, you wasted a fantastic opportunity to remain silent.

You have no understanding of scientific method or how real science works. You can pretend your make believe UFO fantasy is real, and live in denial. You can ignore and ridicule anything that doesn't fit your blind closed minded belief. The truth is out there and not what you rant on about for 20 pages. Repeating the lies won't make them true. Attacking others here is not answering questions or looking at the facts. You are deflecting and avoiding.

Your religion is a cult belief, aliens from space.

How embarrassing ... "or looking at the facts". Wow. Clearly isn't keeping up with any news at all. Hasnt read the posts at all. Hasn't verified any facts. Jesus utterly toe curling. Apprently this is an ad hominem attack. The claim of a hypocritic fool, particularly as the majority of her histrionics were personal in nature.

Perhaps you would like to contact Bill Nelson at NASA and tell him your in depth analysis and to stop wasting money looking at data. Personally I would. National "Aeronautics" etc ... but while showcasing "science at work" and proudly publishing their assement of declassified UAP footage and claiming it of no value managed to bungle the maths and forgot to include in their calculations of things ... wind speed. Overshadows your random rant some what. Marginally.

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Jesse Marcel Jr - Roswell Incident -  full interview with National Enquirer 1979 released by National Archive I believe in the last two days.

https://unknownboundaries.com/12640-2/


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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Now mummies from space. Don't ruin the childish fantasy with made up stories. This is total nonsense.

As you apparently have nothing constructive or interesting to contribute, you wasted a fantastic opportunity to remain silent.
the story this far - lots of hearsay, rumors and conspiracy nonsense - actual evidence? NADA. and any critiques are met with ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the serious lack of evidence other than 'i know a guy who said they knew somebody who saw something'

if posts had to be constructive or interesting this thread would be done - all we get are rumors and links the posters  havent even read!
And clearly you have read nothing posted at all. Have no interest in the subject. Have no clue what hypocrisy means and can't help but posting and exposing your rather nasty nature.

Odd you state that any 'criticism'.... well there shouldn't be any should there. Because if you had any sense you wouldn't repeatedly keep posing your toxic opinions in a thread you repeatedly claim is nonsense.


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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
Now mummies from space. Don't ruin the childish fantasy with made up stories. This is total nonsense.

Thank you for your service.

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 22, 2023, 11:10 »
🤣 🤣 🤣

omg the latest failed submission rejected for

meh ... we no likey

🤣 🤣 🤣

non aesthetic or commercial appeal. Stock photography. Where you can buy photos of a used cat litter tray or worse. Ok lol. SS thanks you.

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I guess Pete isn't interested after all. Like a stock cube PSL. Plop, Stir, Leave.

Annnnyway during the David Grusch hearings senator Matt Gaetz referred to an incident ... "I was called to go to Eglin AFB to deal with a situation that  had been made aware of. We were met by the base commander and told we had wasted our time. We were shown unto a room and shown a few bits of data and told to go home. We were promised pilots and we were refused pilots. So I made a few calls and he was briefed on authority and clearances and we got access to the pilots and footage"

until now this has been classified and denied.

https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/us-air-force-reports-mysterious-gulf-of-mexico-incident-to-pentagons-ufo-office

The Department of Defense (DoD) has officially confirmed to Liberation Times that the United States Air Force (USAF) has submitted a report about an incident involving an unknown object that occurred earlier this year to its Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) office, known as the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

Very good read about something that was claimed as false.

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 20, 2023, 17:02 »
what's the specific similars rule you're referring to?  i get lots of rejections in shutterstock for similars but not as many on adobe.
rejection reason

Similar Images already submitted.

Thanks for giving us the chance to consider your image. Unfortunately, during our review we found that it's similar to another image(s) you've already uploaded, so we can't accept it into our collection.

Images must be different enough to provide additional value to our customers. We can't accept more than three color variations of the same image or similar images, and models must appear in different situations or with different expressions to be considered. Please be selective and submit only the very best from each image series.

To learn more about the reasons we decline certain images, including similarity to other images, please visit this page: https://www.adobe.com/go/stock-contributor-help

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 20, 2023, 04:51 »
What is even more fun is our content ferments for a month or so only to find out your content suddenly does not meet Adobe qaulity standards, evenwith years of a proven track record.

Yea their reviewers are becoming ridiculously strict. Some of my latest images were rejected for technical reasons and they look fine to me. I used to have a very good acceptance rate.

My last photo was rejected because there is supposedly a similar image already in my portfolio. That is complete nonsense. I went through my port twice and I see no images that are similar to this latest submission. The latest photo is a close up of a very young tree. I do admit that I have a close up of a plant that is already in my port but these types of vegetation are completely different and look nothing like each other. For example, one has large leaves and the other has no leaves. I guess Adobe are hinting that we are only allowed to have a maximum of one plant close up in our port and no more. Never mind that there are probably thousands of different types of plants out there but we can only have a closeup of one of them. So choose carefully.

I've had a discussion with Matt about this but it was blind script arguing from him. Lalalalalalalala I'm not listening etc. The similars rule is equally as moronic. If only they checked. Pages of swimming pool water from one account. Sand and brick and stones and leaves and clouds. And this is the simple stuff an easy search could reveal ... but yeah let's be thick as pig sh%t and leave those on there and reject two photos because one is autumnal leaves on a tree and another on the ground.

And heaven forbid we bring up A.I. similars jesus. Pages and pages.

Actual similar spamming offences ...

https://stock.adobe.com/uk/search?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aaudio%5D=0&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Binclude_stock_enterprise%5D=0&filters%5Bis_editorial%5D=0&order=relevance&safe_search=1&serie_id=621281076&search_page=1&search_type=see-more&get_facets=0

there are far worse examples. Portfolios with 80+ pages of pool water. And they've been there for years.
Adobe is now my worst performer.

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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/nasa-s-ufo-task-force-has-released-its-final-report-it-s-not-aliens/ar-AA1gJtVJ

We find no evidence that UAPs are extraterrestrial in origin, said team lead David Spergel at Princeton University during the press conference. Most events are explainable as planes, balloons, drones, weather phenomena and instrument features.

NASA Independent Panel report.

That said it only exhibits 70% human dna and 30% unknown.
?????

Unknown doesn't translate to aliens or anything, it means... UNKNOWN very simple, it couldn't be identified because the structure was too old or had been destroyed. Finding nothing is not a way to jump to the conclusion that it's something else.

Thank you Peter for explaining the obvious. Just answering a question. Don't panic no one is challenging your religious beliefs.

Well when someone and their cult religion insists that Unknown some how means extraterrestrial by default, the obvious does need to be explained. And when it's the NASA panel not the Congressional panel and you answer as if it was the second, that needs to be explained, even if obvious.

Not known, as in missing, can't be determined, doesn't become proof of the pseudo-science unknown. It's not evidence of something, it's lack of anything that can be known for sure.

Maybe since there are supposed to be aliens in captivity, dead or alive and the Govt. is reverse engineering craft. How about a photo? Everyone has phones now and there are no secrets. Where's the proof of the claims?

Sorry my mistake I assumed you only came here to troll. So clearly then you would like access to the classified material showing alien bodies, UAP back engineering programmes and the like. Ok fine.

You fo course jave used the proforma knocking about to contact your local member of Congress to voice your request. Yes? I can supply you with the details for your state. Or you can do a more personal one. How would you like.to proceed?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Big drop in sales
« on: September 18, 2023, 09:52 »
Sales are doing really well. Not on here which is dead. But the other agencies are doing well. Up on last year.

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🤣 well somethings happening and it's er lol ... like out there.

Dr Steven Greer (I've made my opinion clear) is going completely off book. But there is also a rather large something coming as well. But Greer has either completely overdosed on his meds or this is happening.

1. Tim Burchette and Luna issued Thomas Monheim (head of the ICIG that investigated Gruschs claims and found them credible and urgent) a request for any and all investigative data regarding David Grusch to be passed on or released. Specifically the details of Thomas Monheims investigation and what he found that flagged this as credible and urgent. They set a time frame for a response which was up today.

Monheim responded. Shown below. But now Greer explains where this is going next ... I mean ... just wow ok then.

https://x.com/MikeColangelo/status/1702755015784366294?s=20


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urghhh and the mess gets deeper and deeper.

Hello, everyone :

Many of you have contacted us in relation to the presentation of two alleged "reptilian humanoid" specimens last Tuesday, September 12, 2023 before the Congress of the Republic of Mexico.

These two specimens were supposedly discovered in the Nasca region in 2017 (sic) and then shipped to Mexico several months ago.

On behalf of all the members of the Inkarri Cusco Institute, we want to express our deepest disagreement with this scandalous situation.

As we have not had the opportunity to examine these two supposedly non-human mummies, we cannot confirm their suspected authenticity.

The only mummified bodies about which we can give a definitive opinion are those of "Mara", "Wawita", "Alberto", "Josefina" and "Victoria". These mummies are currently at the San Luis Gonzaga University of Ica (UNICA) and have been studied and analyzed since 2019.

On the basis of these analyses, the two species studied have been classified as "unknown origin." The Inkarri Institute does not go further, preferring to leave the debate on this "origin" to specialists in the field, without favoring any particular hypothesis.

The two copies presented last Tuesday before the Congress of the Republic of Mexico were taken from Peru completely illegally, without any authorization from the Peruvian authorities. These mummified bodies are part of the cultural heritage of Peru. They should be in a local museum in Nasca, not in Mexico City.

We hope that the Peruvian authorities can clarify this totally anomalous situation and achieve the return of these cultural objects.

Concerned about the protection and preservation of Peruvian cultural heritage, the Inkarri Institute will remain attentive to the outcome of this case.

Sincerely, from the Heart of the Andes,

Cusco, September 14, 2023

Thierry Jamin
President of the
Inkarri Institute Cusco

Jos Casafranca Monts
Vice president

Edward Valenzuela Gil
Communication Manager

So ut is really unclear what is going on because he was quite happy to deal with JM as seen in these various videos on this page
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nasca-mummies-josefina/



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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/nasa-s-ufo-task-force-has-released-its-final-report-it-s-not-aliens/ar-AA1gJtVJ

We find no evidence that UAPs are extraterrestrial in origin, said team lead David Spergel at Princeton University during the press conference. Most events are explainable as planes, balloons, drones, weather phenomena and instrument features.

NASA Independent Panel report.

That said it only exhibits 70% human dna and 30% unknown.
?????

Unknown doesn't translate to aliens or anything, it means... UNKNOWN very simple, it couldn't be identified because the structure was too old or had been destroyed. Finding nothing is not a way to jump to the conclusion that it's something else.

Thank you Peter for explaining the obvious. Just answering a question. Don't panic no one is challenging your religious beliefs.

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https://youtu.be/zrbT4Ty3dpI?feature=shared

the latest take. Greer (and I mean take him as you will( in my humble opinion is a grifter. He runs his C5 courses calling aliens down from wherever using lasers and intense meditation. Ok lol whatever. That said as part of the disclosure project he has probably brought more military personnel to testify under oath than anyone else. But I've always considered him the Uri Geller of the UFO world without the cheeky charm.

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that's not what the university cited - they only had access to the DNA and did the c14 dating - they made NO clams about origin
The university lab which did the testing disassociates itself from any use, interpretation, or subsequent misrepresentation of the results it provides, the institute said. In no case do we draw conclusions about the origin of these samples.

Similarly, Antgona Segura, one of Mexicos top astrobiologists, questioned Mr. Maussans contentions. These conclusions are simply not backed up by evidence, said Dr. Segura, who collaborates with the Nexus for Exoplanet System Science, a NASA initiative to search for life on distant worlds. The whole thing is very shameful.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html

and these ARE mummies - as usually found in the high andes - but not Egyptian-brand mummies. 'petrified' bodies means turned to rock which doesnt contain DNA

in other words, just the usual UFO-alien nonsense

noted re: petrification

Yes it's a bit of a mess isn't it. The problem is any scientific opinion means very little at present. What would they reference as a comparison. Another alien they claim doesnt exist.

 There are claims that the bones in one of these bodies arms is a child's femur. The shape doesn't match very well but well enough to claim it. But the claim that it is a child's femur is a fallacy. Samples of it would need to be drilled to determine composition and age. I'm not sure if that's been done.

The same with similar dimensions to a reversed portion of the rear of a llama skull masquerading as its face. Various biologists have stated it is possible but without examining it themselves they aren't prepared to make a discision based on screen shots and uploaded photos of scans and X rays which is right and proper.

no, the problem is that this wasn't treated scientifically. some DNA was examined externally with no claim of extraterrestrial existence. but otherwise this ridiculous 'release' is exploited by a previously exposed UFO hoaxer w/o credentials and who performed none of the necessary tests for a REAL scientific report.

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The major thing is the hips. No ball joint at the top of the femur. Some claim making walking impossible and others claiming no side movement would have been possible. Only an uncomfortable foreward motion would be possible. But they're 1000 years old. Allegedly.
nonsense - we have hundreds of fossils, millions of ears old, across vertebrate lines & none of their hips have such a mal-formed femur. 

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Of the biologist that have come forward they have pointed to these impressions but state that unfortunately it 'could' be possible that some other structure was present which has since decayed away leaving little or no trace. They don't think its likely but still.
more scientific whaledreck - they don't think it's likely. Period.  it's also not likely it was the remains of a terrestrial leprechaun, but still..
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Its one of those things that the right people to investigate it fully are the very people that have been shown to cover up and lie about things whilst others are not prepared to be associated with it.

you slander thousands of reputable scientists and officials who have not done anything like that. instead you support hoaxers, frauds* flim-flam reports that would never make it to a peer reviewed journal. in the real scientific world, these sorts of tests are done BEFORE making extraordinary claims.
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It will then it seems have to come down to the DNA for now while funding is sought to do what is required.
yes and the DNA does not support the hoaxer's claims.
 
 

I guess it's drinky time again is it? I didn't slander any scientist moron.

Good to get your unqualified perspective on the rest before you start ranting. Shame. I've tried numerous times to engage with you but you always default to the patronising obnoxious discourse. At a boy 👍

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NASA Report, Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.

no they didn't. Senator Bill Nelson did. And he is one slice short of a sandwich. Even if they had done at the hearings
they ...
1. Aren't researching historic cases.
2. aren't researching classified videos and data.
3. Aren't going to speculate and research origins.

These were clearly stated at the first hearing.

And at this hearing they want the public to download their UAP reporting app to send in videos. That's right folks they want what utubes already had for 25 years.

And finally that husk Nelson was asked about David Grusches claims. Nelson is a senator so being part of Congress and the organisation that deals with space youde expect him to have an opinion based on what he's learned so far .... oh .... oh dear.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16inteu/bill_nelson_on_david_grusch_and_his_claims/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

be lucky if he keeps his job. Lego aliens thanks you Bill Nelson for taking the heat off them.

Just the facts ... om fg ... just the facts. A fact that he should employ the next time he opens his slack jaw. None of what he said was accurate. Maybe about dragnet.

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That said it only exhibits 70% human dna and 30% unknown.
?????

that's not what the university cited - they only had access to the DNA and did the c14 dating - they made NO clams about origin
The university lab which did the testing disassociates itself from any use, interpretation, or subsequent misrepresentation of the results it provides, the institute said. In no case do we draw conclusions about the origin of these samples.

Similarly, Antgona Segura, one of Mexicos top astrobiologists, questioned Mr. Maussans contentions. These conclusions are simply not backed up by evidence, said Dr. Segura, who collaborates with the Nexus for Exoplanet System Science, a NASA initiative to search for life on distant worlds. The whole thing is very shameful.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html

and these ARE mummies - as usually found in the high andes - but not Egyptian-brand mummies. 'petrified' bodies means turned to rock which doesnt contain DNA

in other words, just the usual UFO-alien nonsense

noted re: petrification

Yes it's a bit of a mess isn't it. The problem is any scientific opinion means very little at present. What would they reference as a comparison. Another alien they claim doesnt exist.

 There are claims that the bones in one of these bodies arms is a child's femur. The shape doesn't match very well but well enough to claim it. But the claim that it is a child's femur is a fallacy. Samples of it would need to be drilled to determine composition and age. I'm not sure if that's been done.

The same with similar dimensions to a reversed portion of the rear of a llama skull masquerading as its face. Various biologists have stated it is possible but without examining it themselves they aren't prepared to make a discision based on screen shots and uploaded photos of scans and X rays which is right and proper.

The major thing is the hips. No ball joint at the top of the femur. Some claim making walking impossible and others claiming no side movement would have been possible. Only an uncomfortable foreward motion would be possible. But they're 1000 years old. Allegedly.

Of the biologist that have come forward they have pointed to these impressions but state that unfortunately it 'could' be possible that some other structure was present which has since decayed away leaving little or no trace. They don't think its likely but still.
Its one of those things that the right people to investigate it fully are the very people that have been shown to cover up and lie about things whilst others are not prepared to be associated with it.

It will then it seems have to come down to the dna for now while funding is sought to do what is required.

Garry Nolan asked chatgpt what would be needed to answer this question. He was amazed to discover that for the most part chatgpt was correct. Chatgpt has added equipment costs which if you already had them would significant reduce costs.

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Asked a neutral observer-- chatGPT. 😇😋🤣

Someone has claimed they found an alien mummy.  They have x-rays and DNA results they claim are evidence.  Others have pointed out the bones look to be from multiple different animals, and humans, glued together.  The DNA results claim the sequences are unlike anything seen.  What would you do to explore the findings if you had to repeat them, and how large a team would it take to do so...  that includes a full forensic analysis of the mummies, and redoing the DNA analysis.  You are doing this at the level of a high-end medical laboratory or FBI-level forensics research.  Give me a detailed point-by-point analysis, then the costs required.

ChatGPT:  Investigating a claim of an alien mummy with the rigor of a high-end medical laboratory or FBI-level forensics research would require a multi-disciplinary approach. Here's a step-by-step analysis of the process:

1. Forensic Examination of the Mummy: 

Visual Examination: Begin with a thorough visual examination to document the mummy's appearance, including any signs of tampering or alteration.
Radiographic Analysis: Use X-rays to examine the internal structure of the mummy. This will help identify any inconsistencies in bone structure or evidence of multiple species.

CT Scanning: This provides a more detailed view of the internal structures and can help identify any hidden anomalies.

Microscopic Analysis: Examine tissue samples under a microscope to identify any signs of tampering or to determine the age of the tissues.

Team Required: Forensic anthropologist, radiologist, forensic pathologist.

2. DNA Analysis:

Sample Collection: Extract DNA samples from various parts of the mummy to ensure a comprehensive analysis.

DNA Sequencing: Sequence the DNA to determine its genetic makeup.

Comparison with Known Species: Compare the DNA sequences with known species to identify any matches or anomalies.

Contamination Check: Ensure that the samples haven't been contaminated with human or other DNA.

Team Required: Molecular biologist, geneticist, bioinformatician.

3. Chemical Analysis:

Tissue Analysis: Analyze the tissue samples to determine their chemical composition and to identify any preservatives or adhesives.

Isotope Analysis: This can provide information about the mummy's diet and geographical origin.

Team Required: Forensic chemist, biochemist.

4. Historical and Cultural Analysis:

Provenance Research: Determine the origin of the mummy, its history, and any previous owners or handlers.

Cultural Analysis: Consult with experts on ancient cultures to determine if the mummy fits within any known historical or cultural context.

Team Required: Historian, archaeologist, cultural anthropologist.

5. Documentation and Reporting:

Photographic Documentation: Document every step of the investigation with high-resolution photographs.
Detailed Reporting: Compile a comprehensive report detailing the findings, methodologies used, and conclusions.

Team Required: Forensic photographer, technical writer.
Cost Estimation:

Forensic Examination:
Equipment (X-ray machine, CT scanner, microscopes): $500,000 - $1,000,000
Personnel: $300,000 (annual salaries combined)

DNA Analysis:
Equipment (DNA sequencers, lab equipment): $200,000 - $500,000
Personnel: $250,000 (annual salaries combined)

Chemical Analysis:
Equipment (mass spectrometers, chromatographs): $100,000 - $300,000
Personnel: $200,000 (annual salaries combined)

Historical and Cultural Analysis:
Research materials, travel, consultations: $50,000 - $100,000
Personnel: $150,000 (annual salaries combined)

Documentation and Reporting:
Equipment (cameras, software): $10,000 - $50,000
Personnel: $100,000 (annual salaries combined)

Total Estimated Cost: $1,110,000 - $2,600,000 (This is a rough estimate and actual costs could vary based on location, specific equipment used, and other variables.)

This investigation would be comprehensive and would aim to either validate or debunk the claim of an alien mummy. The team would work collaboratively, sharing findings and consulting with each other throughout the process.  At the end of the process, the results would be submitted for peer-review prior to making formal claims.

Anyone got a couple of million hanging around that they want to waste on a fake alien? lol.

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So I dont understand, are they showing people real aliens?  :o :o :o :o

OK so it's hard to tell. 100% some of the bodies in the past that Jaime Maussan has presented are ancient bodies that have been found. Called mummified but actually petrified. They aren't alien. The X-rays of these bodies have had children human bones from say a leg (femur) placed in the bodies humorous position to elongate it. The upper arm. It was also found that whomever constructed these corpses placed tie bones in some of the finger positions to make them longer and in the wrist areas various finger bones were just well dumped in a mish mash. The final straw was that although some of the bodies had naturally very elongated skulls (sciencists) claim this was probably due to head binding of a child, a common practice in some areas of then world then, that some of the skulls had been assembled from the front half of a child and the back of the skull was actually a lamas skull turned round.

Now as gruesome as that sounds he's never been charged with any such crime. Skeptics have but no authorities have. And he lives in infamy. And then they wheeled him out at the end of the Mexican USP hearings and he opened the boxes ro reveal two more skeletal remains.

This is where is gets wierd. The two he brought out have been examined and a genome sequence extracted and registered. Gary Nolan a very well respected scientist has stated he is too busy to do the work examining the sequence and it will take quite a bit of finding and a year roughly to get to the bottom of it. Errors were made and human cross contamination did happen. That said it only exhibits 70% human dna and 30% unknown. Further more the various documentaries debunking these bodies didn't feature the specific ones he wheel out. X-rays have been taken and many many tests done by the Mexican governments medical officer and he has concluded they are not human.

There are anomalies. Whilst it doesn't appear that any bones are where they shouldn't be there doesn't appear to be any room for lungs. This means they're fake or had a different breathing method. Their skulls do not appear to have been tampered with. The only question really hangs over their legs. Normally the top of the femur (thigh bone) would have a ball on top. So that it can freely move. Neither body has a ball. But that's human and animal anatomy and perhaps they had some different structure there that has disintegrated. The female shows on x-ray to have 3 eggs inside her consistent with some form of amphibian anatomy and there are rumours now surfacing that the closest match to the 30% is turtle dna. But it's in no way definitive.

The debunkers are popping champaign corks morning noon and night. Believers are disgusted with the whole thing and word is going around that the inteligence community are breathing a sigh of relief.

As the ashes are falling Mike Pence gets collared by an Interviewer and asked
I: Did you get briefed on UFOs
MP: I did.
I: Do they exist?
MP: Well it doesn't exist but I'll tell you I've been out to area 51 and I didn't see anything there that wasn't from here.

Which means UFOs do exists. You can't be briefed on something if it isn't real. I mean youde have to have the IQ of chicken feed to believe otherwise but even if his briefing was they don't exists he wasn't prepared to say that and randomly started offering lack of aliens at area 51. He's being roasted about that now. Silly answer to a yes or no question. And made things worse for himself. Oh well meh.

So back to bodies they've been tested to death according to the Mexican government but honestly it's a blood bath. Americans Vs Mexicans is a vile experience to watch and this is being used as another stick to beat the Mexicans with. But the scientific data has been released to the public and you can go and look at the genome sequence yourself. It's a f'ing large file apprently lol. I think garry nolannsaid somwthing about 4TB of data maybe he said GB but still lol.

There its a waiting game on the two from the hearings with a dodgy slap dash examination of them in the past brought forward to today as irrefutable evidence of their fakeness. Except most of what the morons are waving around is related to the known fakes. We'll see.

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Following that on reddit. They even released DNA data.

Waiting for this to hit front page news.

They should send these corpses to other Universities around the world or invite their specialists to come in.

lol I know I've just read all that. According to those who may know, the DNA is 30% unknown dna.

However that video does feature them and showed a femur where the arm should be and another showed that half the skull came from a lama. I mean different corpses to these but a worrying link to a suspected hoaxer. Then again people should beware that the pages of the Internet are full of experts in all manner of fields who have an interest in UAP.

Interestingly James Fox, Ross Coulthart, Jeremy Corbell, Geroge Knapp and Bryce Zabel to name a few are completely silent on the issue. Literally nothing.

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