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« on: October 24, 2023, 05:46 »
At some point I had a few images that I wanted to delete and after deactivating them, there was also a delete option. I don't know if that's still the case.
No, there is no delete button, just a re-activate button and I do not think there ever was. I found an old thread where it was already discussed that DP does not offer a delete option. Dreamstime is the agency where you have to deactivate images and then you get a delete option once you deactivate the image. Maybe you are confusing these two?
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« on: October 23, 2023, 02:22 »
besides the fact that there is no, way to trace which images were used & worse even if your 'easy to do' way of marking were possible, for most images (maybe close to 0%) there is no way to identify who the artist is for the billions of images used - many have no names assoc'd and those that do lack verification and an address to pay to). how would your revised training know who (& how) to make payments
We're talking about Adobe generative fill. Adobe knows very well where to find the artists who's photos were used and how to pay them as they used images from their own database.
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« on: October 22, 2023, 23:49 »
You cannot delete your images at all, you can only deactivate them, so they are not up for sale anymore.
You have a list of your online photos in your dashboard and there is a deactivate as well as an edit button next to each image. While that's relatively easy to access, you have to do it one by one. Depending on how many images you have in your port deactivating them all can take hours.
In their ToS they write if you cancel your account, all images will be deleted within a year, but remain in their database till then. They do not mention any rules about how they proceed with images sold through partner sites. Though, from what I have heard, having images removed from partner sites even after you delete content or a whole account is very often problematic on all stock agencies.
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« on: October 22, 2023, 12:43 »
I am not a DepositPhotos contributor but out of curiosity, were at least some of you able to opt out this program a second time? And do you remain opted out? That is incredibly sneaky of this agency to place contributors back into this program after they asked to be removed from it.
Yes, after they opted me in against my will and I sent a mail to their support they opted me out again and I am still opted out.
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« on: October 20, 2023, 01:59 »
I do find this annoying because prospective buyers will assume that I added this keyword myself. They would likely think that I'm trying to mislead them.
Its funny you think buyers would care about this.
You'd be surprised - I got a notification on Dreamstime a while ago, that a customer had flagged my image for use of irrelevant keywords, so some seem to care. Btw - It was an image of a parrot and the flagged keywords were "parakeet, quail, budgie, finch, chicken, dog" - I added none of these keywords. I do not even know what "parakeet" and "quali" means. I assume they are bird breeds, but I do not know these names  And I certainly would not add keywords like chicken or dog to a parrot image. So apparently Dreamstime too adds random keywords - or they use a very poor translation tool for keywords, because when I go to that image I don't see any of these weird keywords.
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« on: October 19, 2023, 14:33 »
I did not receive any payment from Canva for the month of September. 
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« on: October 19, 2023, 07:49 »
There has been a whole thread about the ridiculous rejections, but I cannot find it right now. Like you, many people say that they suddenly get many more images rejected than before. It is happening to me too and for me the difference of how many photos of mine used to get approved and how many get rejected now is really drastic. Mat claims nothing has changed, but obviously it has.
I don't think Adobe cares for real photos anymore. All that matters to them is AI.
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« on: October 18, 2023, 08:00 »
DannyCanva said this:
"AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward."
I think they also mentioned it would be for the next 3 years, but I might be wrong, not sure this period was for the AI royalties.
I myself opted out.
Yepp. Still have my doubts they'll pay you for the same images that have already been used for training each month. But I guess we'll see next month.
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« on: October 18, 2023, 07:30 »
I am sure it will be a monthly bonus. What we received now is too low to be a one time boost as Adobe paid us.
I can imagine there could be more payments for new content in the future - But why would Canva pay you for usage to train their AI for the same image each month?
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« on: October 18, 2023, 05:18 »
Double glad now that I opted out of AI training.
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« on: October 18, 2023, 04:39 »
September statements are in.
My earnings have been almost weirdly steady for the past several months. Not great, not catastrophic bad, but with all other agencies and also with iStock in the past there has always been some fluctation. Some months were worse, some better, bigger individual sales could easily change the monthly earning by several hundred $ compared to other months, but now my earnings are always almost the same, not even more than $50 difference. For months. I find that very weird.
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« on: October 18, 2023, 04:39 »
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« on: October 17, 2023, 02:36 »
I am also from Germany and I can confirm. So, can you confirm, Im very interested.
I didnt deny that there are gourmets who adore vintage things. A friend of mine drives a 1939 BMW. And what?
But it's a bit different with vinyls. A 1939BMW is a rarity and your friend driving one is an exception to what is "normal", but vinyls are not such a rarity. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/12/vinyl-sales-us-report
Absolutely right! And the camera will become a cool trinket from the past. But there will be gourmets who will continue to take photographs. And it's sad and wonderful at the same time.
Yes, people will continue to take photos. Especially since AI cannot replace some things - not photos of your son's birthday party, not your wedding, not your pet. And some people will still do it as a hobby. But will people still be able to make a living from photos in the microstock market? I have my doubts.
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« on: October 15, 2023, 00:25 »
Are the silhouettes jpgs or pngs with transparent background? Canva does not accept images with objects isolated on white background, it has to be transparent.
I would not know about the other images. I don't think they break any "rule", but I don't really see them as very suitable for Canva. Canva isn't a typical microstock agencie where people buy photos, but where people design stuff, so they are looking for "design elements". I can't really see these images being used for things like posters, websites, greeting cards, booklets or multimedia presentations.
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« on: October 11, 2023, 02:56 »
I can't see anymore the "mission" option in my dashboard, so it seems that I was approved for only few days for previous missions, but now I'm out...
What?? 
Oh, that's strange. Since I did not take part in any of the last missions I thought there was no specific reason why I should get new missions, but others wouldn't, so I thought everyone had them. Don't you have a new "missions" tab in your dashboard? It's in the black top line.
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« on: October 11, 2023, 02:01 »
I am surprised no one has talked about the new mission yet?
500 to 1000 pictures of "a single individual in front of a greenscreen" for $80.
Minimum of 500 images of one person per submission.
I think this mission is even more bold of Adobe.
It requires a model including release and a green screen. The mission info also says the greenscreen must be a "solid greenscreen background with no wrinkles and shadows" so it will require a proper fixed greenscreen and not just some green cloth hanging on the wall and for the "no shadows" it require proper studio light equipment. So this seems like it's aimed more for the photographers with proper studio equipment.
I do have some studio equipment, but even for me these photos usually require lots of post-processing to make sure there are no wrinkles visible in the backdrop or no shadows.
And it comes down to a payment of $40 for 5000-1000 images per person involved in the shooting. I know the food missions also required a second person, but taking 50 photos of someone's hand choppong food is a different task than having one person do 500 different poses for the camera.
I am really curious to know how many professional studio photographers are willing to do 500+ photos for 40$. In my opinion the payment offered for this mission should have been much higher.
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« on: October 10, 2023, 12:09 »
Ouch, that's not fair! I wonder how they decide the order in which they review our files
I really do not know. It hasn't been chronological order for sure, as I have files reviewed that are newer than some that have been sitting in the queque for weeks. As far as I can remember it has never really been in chronical order on Adobe. Even long before AI I would submit a batch of for example 10 images of commercial photos, and 2 would sit there for a week while the others were reviewed on the next day. Images of single objects on white background were always taking longer to be reviewed than others, for example. Never understood why, it doesn't strike me as something that needs a more thourough inspection than for example a Christmas flatlay with 30 objects in the photo. But that one person gets reviewed over 1000 files in a week and another less than 100 seems kind of unfair. My newest photo that was reviewed was submitted 19 days ago, but I have many many many images in the queque that have been waiting much longer. And while I should be happy that some very few photos were reviewed after "only" 19 days I am not, because picking out images randomly for review is making my attempt to submit time-sensitive content on the right time even more impossible. Hallo, Adobe, please finally review these Halloween photos I submitted 2 months ago......
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« on: October 10, 2023, 11:19 »
In my case the review process seems to be pretty consistent so far. Since my first post (which was 6 days ago), I had another ~1.300 images accepted, and my queue is almost empty now.
Well, I guess good to know that not everyone is treated equally on Adobe...? Still hardly any reviewing taking place for me.
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« on: October 10, 2023, 04:09 »
I got a bit more than this for 1650 photos.
But I'm not happy about it, because my work was abused to compete against me, without my explicit consent. 
"I got $614 for about 6,500 photos. Is this good or bad?"
Why do they pay the same amount of money for 6500 photos and for 1650 photos?
Because this was not a "per photo" payment. The payment is based on the number of approved images and the number of licenses that those images generated
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« on: October 07, 2023, 12:29 »
So far it's difficult, because artists have a hard time proving that their specific image was used to train Midjourney's AI.
But there is talk about an EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public. It's unclear if this will pass, so far it's just a draft. But if it happens, artists will have a better chance with lawsuits, because then at least they will be able to prove that their images/text/music/voice/etc. was even used.
not practical for anyone w 100+ imag es on multiple sites, having to do individual searches & recording - all for .00001c per image
Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about potential lawsuits of copyright violations. Winning a lawsuit against a big company for copyright violation should give you way more than .00001c.
>>> EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public.
so a company makes hundreds of millions of images available - how do you find yours w/o searching for each of your images? for 100 image portffolio that's reasonable - for 10,000+? unlikely
How would I know, I do not know any specifics of how the EU plans to make this possible. I do not even think it will even ever happen. ChatGPT has already said they would rather withdraw from the European market than have to make the info public - Because they know very well that, since they used the WHOLE INTERNET making a list is hardly posisble and even if they did it would just make them extremely vulnerable to lawsuits. The same will go for the AI image creators that just let their AI crawl the whole internet for image training. How would you even make a list with ALL images of the internet? That's hardly possible. But the point of this law and why I would welcome it is that it would show these companies that they screwed up and used copyrighted material they had no right to use. If they just had bought licenses from for example microstock agencies they could make a complete list with image IDs and artists' names. But they did not do that, so they can't.
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« on: October 07, 2023, 05:59 »
So far it's difficult, because artists have a hard time proving that their specific image was used to train Midjourney's AI.
But there is talk about an EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public. It's unclear if this will pass, so far it's just a draft. But if it happens, artists will have a better chance with lawsuits, because then at least they will be able to prove that their images/text/music/voice/etc. was even used.
not practical for anyone w 100+ imag es on multiple sites, having to do individual searches & recording - all for .00001c per image
Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about potential lawsuits of copyright violations. Winning a lawsuit against a big company for copyright violation should give you way more than .00001c.
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« on: October 05, 2023, 11:32 »
upload yesterday, review and accept today 
Was it an editorial image?
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« on: October 05, 2023, 04:05 »
Yes, you can sell items you have previously listed on Flickr. You do not "need" to delete them from flickr.
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« on: October 05, 2023, 03:37 »
Topic: Is the review process getting back to normal?
What should be "Normal"?
Sorry, but I'm not expecting always more dilution.
"Normal" should be the time Adobe took to review images before they opened the gates to AI content, which was a couple of days. Or the time other agencies take, which also isn't longer than a couple of days.
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