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Shutterstock.com / glitchy content editor?
« on: December 30, 2011, 09:33 »
I uploaded some photos via FTP and now when I try to submit them, all features of the editor work except the actual submission part. When I select the check box next to them, none appear to 'select', so I can't hit the submit for review button, as it's still greyed out.  Hitting 'select all' doesn't select any, either.  This happens on both firefox and chrome.  Anyone else?

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Photo Critique / Re: Need some veteran opinions
« on: December 29, 2011, 12:33 »
Thanks BT... I know I don't have the answer, but I was hoping someone might :)  Basically, I'm trying to piggy back off people who have already done this experiment, so I have less chance of just killing some images, haha.

Yes, by RM/RF I meant Alamy/Micros.

It's Miami.  Thanks for the compliment on the mangroves... I wanted them lighter, but merging the holes in the leaves was becoming nearly impossible for any bigger exposure difference.  Also, mangroves are pretty movable by the wind, so that also wasn't helping the blend.  But yea I'm moderately happy with the result.

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Frankly, I'm surprised so many people here think our photos are being sold for too little (royalties are another can of worms, I'm talking only about retail price).  This conversation always makes me think about music.  We are all happy to buy an mp3 for a dollar, and those songs take more work from the artist than do my photos, in my opinion.  And the royalties are probably even worse.

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Photo Critique / Need some veteran opinions
« on: December 29, 2011, 12:02 »
Don't mean to be offensive by calling out for veterans -- newbs to the scene are more than welcome to chime in, but you will probably see why a veteran's opinion might be more useful.

Here is a shot I just edited and will soon be uploading.  I think this photo is a good one for me to ask this question about, because it is probably average for the photos I upload.  Certainly many are better, but some worse, too (all of this is opinion, of course, but my opinion).  Most are landscapes like this, many of identifiable places, like this, etc.

So my question is, would you submit shots like this as RF or RM.  Initially, I submitted all my shots as RF.  That's going back to about 2005.  Just recently, I've continued submitting most shots as RF, but now I will submit only the best of the best new shots to RM (my only option thus far is Alamy).  Under that recent method, this one would probably still go to RF.  Do you think shots like this type of scene, of this general caliber, would be better suited to RM?  Do you think I'm doing it right?  Or do you think shots of this type of scene, but top-notch, should still be RF (ie I should not submit anything at all to Alamy RM).

I hope that wasnt too confusing -- any input is greatly appreciated!


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New Sites - General / Re: Potential WarmPicture Bug?
« on: December 28, 2011, 15:47 »
Cool, thanks... just curious!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Another Massive Best Match Shift
« on: December 28, 2011, 11:47 »
Yep, the RC invention was when they lost me, too.  It felt specifically designed to screw contributors like me, actually.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Another Massive Best Match Shift
« on: December 26, 2011, 15:26 »
and my little recent spike was indeed nov's PP sales rolling in

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Another Massive Best Match Shift
« on: December 26, 2011, 09:13 »
It might just be PP results trickling in at the end of the month, since they're usually late... but it seems that my sales have picked up a bit after this new best match.

But indeed, my old and popular files that I've checked are sure enough shoved towards the back.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Seriously?
« on: December 25, 2011, 22:15 »
Scanned books that whose words are actually searchable are thanks to this type of captcha.  It's like tom said, but once enough people type in the same thing for the 'unknown' word (your diamonds), that unknown word is then catalogued in the book as whatever it is.  I am more than happy to deal with complicated captchas to help provide this service.

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New Sites - General / Potential WarmPicture Bug?
« on: December 25, 2011, 19:45 »
Hey guys,

modified

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$1,000,000, if there's a buyer

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123RF / Re: 9 days and still pending..
« on: December 23, 2011, 08:38 »
Thanks davh900!  I uploaded my ID photo and my 10 got promptly reviewed

question 2 now though:  I've started uploading a bunch of old shots via ftp, and they still havent shown up under the 'uploaded this month' section... how long does it typically take for ftp uploads to show up there?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Xmas present from iStock...
« on: December 21, 2011, 14:05 »
I once asked a beggar if he wanted a huge sack of pennies I had in my car, and he was thrilled.  I guess it all depends on the quantity.  (which also sucks, lately)

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123RF / Re: 9 days and still pending..
« on: December 15, 2011, 22:53 »
aha!  If you recall correctly, then that is my problem!  I will look into it.

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123RF / Re: 9 days and still pending..
« on: December 15, 2011, 12:09 »
I have 10 waiting since Nov 20.  But my main reason for asking: these were my initial 10.  Did I do anything wrong?  It just says "10 pending" under the normal upload place, but did I need to upload them somewhere else?  Also, should I expect to wait longer for my initial batch?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 17, 2011, 20:19 »
pontificate is officially my new favorite word!  but let's keep it civil, I've really been enjoying this dialogue so far.  It is almost unheard of for someone to rise to success and then not want to defend their business decisions, which explains both of your vehemency. 

As for me, I do work my ass off.... but at my real job.  So you (SNP) are right about that.  And I understand that you understand there are many people like me -- I didnt take offense to anything you've said.  And I also understand that because of the way I approach stock, my data may be next-to-meaningless for someone like you, JoAnn, sjlocke, etc.  But that doesn't mean it's meaningless for everyone.  It is perfect data for someone, who, say, is attempting to paint a picture for approaching stock the way I do.  And there are a LOT of people like that.  I also agree that there may be (but also, there could not be) a larger variance of income between contributors my size than massive contributors.  But that just means said data-compiler just needs to find more examples.  Not that he needs to find data from larger contributors.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 17, 2011, 12:39 »
I'm aware of that.  But many people with small portfolios, in aggregate, can be as meaningful as several people with large ones.  Hence any data is useful for those wishing to compile a large picture.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 17, 2011, 12:13 »
I'll throw my hat into this ring, because it is worth reporting that my sales are paltry as well.

So far in Nov 2011:  15 sales, $20.
Total for Nov 2010:  120 sales, $630.

You do the math.  On track for a 94% decrease (ok, I did the math for you).

Things that should be noted, however, to be completely transparent:

I am somewhat guilty of the 'riding on the coattails of old bestsellers', like SNP often brings up.  However, I kind of blame this on new-found difficulty of getting new images to take off, not a decrease in quality on my part.

I have a small portfolio, so while I have built up a decent "canister" level, I find it nearly impossible to excel in the new "royalty target" system, so my royalties were slashed and burned.

Due mainly to the above, I rescinded exclusivity, further slashing my royalties as well as my search result locations.

In Nov 2010 I had $107 of EL sales, but none so far in Nov 2011 (also perhaps due to rescinding exclusivity).


However, if we take away the $107, its still $523 vs $40.  Even if we assume my royalties have been cut by a factor of 3 (overexaggeration), it's 523 to 120.  Thats still a 77% decrease, so it's not ALL my fault (though I freely admit it partially is)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 11, 2011, 13:07 »
Holy sh*t I'm confused.  Where did all these random numbers of people come from?

More importantly, why?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 10, 2011, 17:53 »
I actually don't disagree that the number of contributors might start dropping, I just found the "always happens" comment odd, because as far as I know, this would be the first time ever in the microstock industry's existence that the number of contributors has begun to drop.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 10, 2011, 14:32 »

Now I've been in micro awhile, but just started actively paying attention to the overall numbers and economics recently, so I might be ignorant, but...
when has this happened before?  I thought the number of contributors in the microstock industry as a whole has pretty much increased monotonically since its inception.

Not so sure about that, it was a climbing number per year and then two or three years ago, new members started dropping. I don't think it's been growing at a constant rate at any point. If you want, I'll start another topic and show some new artist numbers for the last seven years? I always enjoy investigating and looking at trends.

As for the number of photos, yes, that's seems to be increasing at a rapid but steady rate.

the number of new contributors dropped, but the number of total contributors kept growing.  monotonically does not mean linearly, it just means it kept increasing (ie, the total number of contributors never decreased).  For instance, a plot of sqrt(x) for instance grows monotonically, even though the slope keeps decreasing.  Lagereek was claiming, or so I thought, that actual total number of contributors would decrease, not new contributors each year.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: November 09, 2011, 15:31 »

There's nothing to be 'proud' of there at all. Your status at Istock is purely a business decision and emotion should have nothing to do with it. How can you be proud of something that is essentially available for free to anyone who requests it? Let's see just how 'proud' you are to be exclusive in a couple of years time. Actually, by then it might be something to be proud of because they'll be far fewer in number than today.

spot on, there are way too many emotions bandied around in this and other forums.

it's a business plain and simple


Gotswyck, is right on that one. In a couple of years time, the number of contributors will be cut in half,  not just IS but in the entire micro business. Always happens.

Now I've been in micro awhile, but just started actively paying attention to the overall numbers and economics recently, so I might be ignorant, but...
when has this happened before?  I thought the number of contributors in the microstock industry as a whole has pretty much increased monotonically since its inception.

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Yes I agree, the microstock market is probably really profitable.  Was just saying that the "well they sell more of item X, so can afford to take a smaller cut" is, in general, a valid argument.  Look at the automobile industry. Cars have an average profit margin of 3%.  3%!!

And if we're going to talk econ...

there's really not all THAT much speculation to go around.  We know getty bought istock for 50 million.  We know that companies do a breakeven analysis when making an offer to buy another company, ie 'in how many years will my investment break even'.  There are things like inflation and discount rate etc that factor into this equation, but it is all 'in the noise' compared to two variables: income stream of said investment, and amount of years they want to break even by.

I asked some MBA friends what a typical number of years is that a company wants to break even by, when purchasing another.  I got more info than I bargained for, like 'it depends on many things like istock's debt or marketshare or leveraging their product against getty's product' blah blah blah which severely convolute what this breakeven number would be, but the point is that all those things do still go into some formula which pops out a number.  They were reluctant to give me a range, but I asked whether 2-20 should cover all extremes of riskiness and conservativeness, and they seem to think it would.

That means istock was probably generating somewhere in the range 2.5 to 25 million in pure profit each year.  So yea, given how few execs it takes to run one of these, that's pretty profitable.

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I think, but am not sure, she might have meant software sells more/better than stock photos.

While I'm not going to argue at all whether this is true, because I have no idea, this is indeed a huge part in the equation that you cannot ignore.  Sure, photo storage is cheap, but that further proves the point.  The main sources of overhead (guessing here -- server bandwidth, server maintenance, employees (coders, designers, businessmen, etc) ) do not vary much with each additional image added to the database.  Therefore the amount of money the company needs to take from a given sale varies perhaps nearly linearly with the total amount of sales.  Yes, photos and software are comparatively easy to sell.  Therefore necessary profit per sale is very correlated with total sales.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: absolute despair
« on: October 23, 2011, 11:13 »
That would mean 1% of the collection was having to pay for storage and administration of the other 99%.

uh oh.... time for "occupy MSG"?

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