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Adobe Stock / Re: A.I. Legal cases
« on: May 20, 2023, 16:26 »
in short, as soon as "this thing" is trained one will get 0,00000000...
same like it was with enough images video etc

Ps: may i ask what you define with good money and do you know
    how often and how many images are used and where the outlet goes?


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Adobe Stock / Re: A.I. Legal cases
« on: May 20, 2023, 14:07 »

-there must be an opt out
-and in case, like at adobe - an undone and unlearn

it would be absurd getting some ridiculous compensation
for training final enemy,  rich companies cash cow,
with ones hard work


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What do you mean with "unlike the rest of the industry which just stealing images to train their machines" ?

Contributors at adobe have no choice.
Ah yes, one can delete portfolio, ok, really?

-if your content is used to train an AI model, it may not be possible to make the AI forget any learnings from your item.



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-according to your wiki-list i dont wrote something wrong
-btw the pic is allready displayed nearly worldwide

but its not that simple like just the list - editorial rules (this is not a editorial shot anyway)
->as im not into editorial better ask a professional
also consider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

note: just really interested in the news stand case!
      and wanted to leave something useful for exchange-
      and not any lecturing
     
yes the multiple posts are unhappy, will edit if i have time.

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image in the link is a nogo (imho)
people as main subject, no news content, father with minor in swimwear-
you are not allowed to even display this in the internet in europe.
No newspaper would dare to print this (and if, dont forget they have a legal department)

As for VIPs maybe, but arent their kids protected?


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i meant the news stand

"Had them not been deleted / managed to recover, I would have marked them as "editorial only"

you would had marked them, but have not because the images were deleted and recovered,
did i get this rhight?

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dont always agree on your editorial statements
(esp. with recognizable people + non matter of public concern (and data privacy concerns))

but in this case (unless shots were on non-public ground) i cant see the problem

did you ticked theres property and you dont have a release
+ sell for editorial only ?

would you like to provide some more information for readers here
to avoid a maybe unseen mistake?

thank you!

9

Simple.
Copyright owners have to be asked for agreement
BEFORE the use of ai training.

10

looks like my guess wasnt totally off


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i have no clue about all this ai,
but for me it looks like results are generated (stolen)

from existing keyworded work - without consent, compensation and regard of copyright

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General - Top Sites / Re: Dall e 2 will make us all redundant?
« on: September 02, 2022, 13:53 »

i have no clue about all this ai,
but for me it looks like results are generated (stolen)

from existing keyworded work - without consent, compensation and regard of copyright

no way a cgi can have the idea of dof, light etc




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Shutterstock.com / Re: Start again at Shutterstock? Or not
« on: August 15, 2022, 20:02 »
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How many people have E&O Insurance in the Microstock business?

i guess not many, but lets say you missed a pattern, in the end you pay the bill.
you have signed this

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I already have Internet and cameras and lenses, that if I already took and edited a photo for some other agency, then uploading to more places, is = Free Money. The work is done.

if you upload you lose a lot because you further devalue prices-> other agencies will also follow down
if you upload your computer + router needs at last lets say 200W/h
if you upload you spend time

thats the opposite of free,
dont feel offended, its just my honest opinion.



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Shutterstock.com / Re: Start again at Shutterstock? Or not
« on: August 14, 2022, 12:06 »
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free money

even if you work for 0/hour there are costs for internet electricity equipment
insurance for copyright infringements etc, just to name a few
its your money that gets tossed

i strongly advise you a business consultant!


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In my experience, turning off my portfolio on SS (or leaving my work there) didn't affect my sales on Adobe (or any other agency). Different clients, different preferences.

thats just lame thinking.

If all turn off portfolio, clients move over in a day.

But its pointless argueing here on msg...




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it would not be wise to focus on companies that only lowering royalties and never will cover production costs

especially  big clients are able to pay a ridiculous low 33, 66, 99 licence


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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: July 02, 2022, 19:55 »
Not long ago, alamy was imho one of the best,
now i get 0,02 for exclusive hq images

Always got a professional reply in a working day,
now no replying at all.

ALAMY DRIVING HULL LOSS
 
ALAMY forcing me to delete portfolio





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kiss of death

lets hope this ...

nobody can produce content for 0,1 flatrate - not even in cheapest places

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General - Top Sites / Re: My first month with Freepik !
« on: April 25, 2022, 13:28 »

lol...

agencies must be stupid not to further decrease your royalties to zero

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: February 05, 2022, 13:03 »

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I can't opt out of the novel use until april.

Opt out for distributor and novel use does not make a difference,
contributors who have always been opted out, regardless get the cent sales

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 26, 2022, 16:00 »

Its so f++++++ sad to see them going down the drain


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actual numbers of the future?

do you think fast growing free pictures increases the value and sales volume of your images?


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The Adobe Stock upfront payment program skews results

thats right and:

for this little upfront more you paying in the future for much more less

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Contributors get shared a reset on january

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i know you dont care,
but instant pay isnt a good idea, more free images will continue to devalue your work
and your regular sales will decrease to zero
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we should be helping Wirestock to help us! They will listen
cmon all have been the nice guys until they had enough content


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thank you farbled

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