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Photo Critique / Re: Advice
« on: November 21, 2013, 17:21 »
The dog with the foggy background express what you tried to express. Yours, no at all. There's not any history in your shot, it's just a dog's headshot.

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How does this sound

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And actually were getting great feedback on what theyre starting to see in terms of their payouts, much higher dollar per images.

Compared to what people are saying about IS discounts?
It's the same when iStock sells images at a higher price point you get more money, when it's discounted you get less money.  Exactly the same thing.  That's how % works.

I'm not sure if that is true when the files are paid without credits (with credit card), or when credits or files are sodl in foreing currencies.

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I was there. I've been every year. But Murphy's law says that if one year I don't reach it, they won't grandfather anyting.

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It's a strange project. I suppose the air force wanted the shots and arranged it all, since the expense certainly doesn't seem justified for stock purposes.  You could tell he works mostly in a studio from the time it took him to hit on panning as the solution, which I'm pretty sure a motor-sports shooter would have done automatically.


I couldn't agree moreI thought it was a little embarrassing the amount of time he wasted trying to get the shot. Obviously you have to pan with the plane as it passes by to get a shot like thatpretty ordinary result in the end as well.

No, that's not the right way to do a video. Had he got it at first try, there's no plot, no suspense... boring. Trying several times at getting it at the las gasp has a positive dramatic effect.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: PP Sales October 2013 started
« on: November 14, 2013, 13:04 »
Something doesn't add up for me in all this.

My 'PP sales' are on target to be almost double my royalties from Istock last month or roughly equivalent to my earnings from DT and FT combined. Where has all this 'new business' come from almost overnight?

The sales from which these PP royalties are derived must be in the tens of millions of dollars (annually it could be the equivalent of a new agency with $100M in sales revenue). How is it possible that the market for our work has apparently grown so much so quickly? It is not as if anyone is reporting an equivalent fall in their earnings elsewhere.

Could this be an error or could it be that historic under-reporting has been discovered and is now being corrected? If so why would these new sales be so evenly distributed throughout the month? It is all very strange.

Well, I really don't know, but in previous months tey were pushing very hard TS in the Getty's main page (don't ask me way they want to re-directed getty well paying customers to TS...)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: PP Sales October 2013 started
« on: November 14, 2013, 10:39 »
I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

Because these sales are reported in the Partners Program Forum, no in the general "Discussion" forum.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: The "New" IS
« on: November 09, 2013, 14:19 »
I have said that SS has kept prices very low for years to gain market share.  Our cost's have risen via inflation, contributor quality has gone through the roof and image quality is light years better than it was in 2004.  SS has benefited from the competitive advantages its contributor base has given them and those gains have been fully funded by SS contributors.

Well put. That's the core of the matter.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: My meeting with Shutterstock
« on: November 09, 2013, 12:42 »
First of all, I didnt ask about a raise because it has been discussed before and Jon has been clear in several interviews about it, that a raise is not an option at the moment.

Well, I don't think that's a reason for no asking and telling him a raise would be much appreciated. Just doing the "correct" questions won't improve things for SS contributors.

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Not much different from photographers trying to get away without paying models for commercial work.

Totally different. A model just does a TFCD swap if she/he wants.There's a agreement on both sides. But an image stealer doesn't make any agreement with the image author. It's no a small, its a huge difference, in case you didn't notice it.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 21, 2013, 08:38 »
s BIG, guess that is all you need to know, you better ask yourself how much size you can/want to get?


Seems like there's a fair number of you here who think it's actually a good idea, just one that's hard to pull off and would take a long time to succeed, in a crowded space. If Dreamstime did it, it took them years, but they're fairly big now. I'm not sure why it's different now.

Well, now it seems that you don't know what are you talking about. It didn't take years to Dreamstime to suceed. It took weeks. Istock, shutterstock and dreamstime succeed very fast, it was a matter to be there at the right moment, that's all. Now it's years late. 

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Years ago, at shutterpint, image rating was an endless  source of conflict and wrath among pohotographers.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Size of Licensing Market
« on: October 19, 2013, 18:30 »
No. The buyer that pays for licensing, pays also for security and legality; releases,  images owned by the people who is selling them (as opposed to images maybe previously stolen) and easiness of search. Nothing of this is possible in a Flirck-like scheme.

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When a buyer buys a subscription they don't think to themselves, " I get these images for $.02"  they say to themselves I get access to the entire library for $xx per month/ year.  They have to really value all the images in the collection to commit to this amount.

From a business point of view subscriptions are great because you can budget cash flow.... they have a better idea of what they will receive in the following months.

Exactly.

Only a fraction of the average subscriber's allowance is ever downloaded (because otherwise the agency would lose money) and, most likely, an even smaller fraction of the downloaded images are ever actually used for anything more than comping.

A subscription, in the way that it is provided/used, is actually a service rather than a cost-per-item transaction. To talk of 'pennies per image' is to not understand the reality.
Don't you think it's strange that if a buyer downloads more than 9-12% of their allowance Bigstock (Shutterstock) loses money?  They are clearly pricing this at below cost.  Anyone know much about predatory pricing?

I'm tempted to buy one of these 99 dollar suscriptions and dedicate myself everyday to download all and each one of the 1.800 shots just for the hll. of it.

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123RF / Re: Anybody Sell EVO at 123RF
« on: October 14, 2013, 15:55 »
He's already been selling in Photoshelter for some months, if I'm not wrong.

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After a better September (specially first half) things are going South in my IS exclusive portfolio.

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You can try. Over the years, I've discover that is cheaper to pay for models (more session time for your --and not theirs-- photos, less time editing non-selleable book protraits etc), but I've discovered too that there are many people who's thrilled with the idea of seeing their (or their's sons) photos in print on some ad. Putting and ad is the way for find these people. Juts be clear; what you give, what you take.

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Judging by the number of files I have, and the number of files I sell monthly (even in this not very promising October) I cant't believe Yuri is jus selling 5.000 a month with a 70.000 highy commercial portfoilio. I would have 2x or 3x ratio over him, and my portfolio is not so commercial at all.

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I haven't had any files accepted as S+ yet but I did get more Vetta's than I would expect.  Have you had more Vetta's accepted recently?

No.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: model might try to sue me
« on: September 24, 2013, 17:50 »
I would delete the photos. Forget the legal aspect, avoid possible trouble and let her have her career.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockphoto Relaunch Sept. 17, 2013
« on: September 20, 2013, 14:50 »
... and if you want one image for 14.5 at SS, and you just need this image, you have to buy two and spend 29. At least, remaining credits can be used in the future, in the moment when you really need more images.



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I have a variety of sources of income, but not in microstock itself. I consider relying just in microstock would be a really crazy and dangerous decision. There are too manyh common problems to ALL sites as a whole: the flood of new photographers/factories/photos, sites, the race to the bottom etc. When a site gets away with a cut, other sfollow. No, thanks; there's life beside  ms, and even beside photography. As I said, I consider to be in a much greater danger those that only do ms, no matter to how many sites they upload.


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Sor for anybody who wants to sell such content, exclusivity at iStock does not work - because it's artist exclusivity, not image exclusivity.

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I agree that anyone who creates average generic content is in trouble even if you are on the sub sites, like I said this isn't an exclusive issue it's an industry wide issue.

(1) Anyone who makes like an ostrich and stays exclusive is in trouble.  Within the space of a year it's gone from better than SS volumes and DT commissions to worse than DT volumes and 123 commissions.  Can anyone really have faith that the muppets responsible  either care or are capable of sustaining the business.

(2) Anonymous commentary about "generic content" in a pejorative way is pretty meaningless and, anyway, generic stuff is the stuff that sells because it's useful.

You are talking from a non-excl point of view. As exclusive I' going the same, or even a bit better (including Getty sales, btw, paid today and great) than last year.I understand that the demise of Photo Plus and the reduction in price for non-ex stuff has taken its toll. That could be an argument to don't stay as non-ex at IS, but, certainly, not a valid argument against exclusivity.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SSTK to sell 3M more shares.
« on: September 17, 2013, 18:38 »
what does it means actually? in layman term..

is it shutterstock issue more shares to the market? it is usually a sign as they want more cash?

It means that they need money.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Where has the high selling season gone???
« on: September 17, 2013, 17:10 »
If you don't mind my asking, loop and "This is the West" are  you istock exclusives?

Yes, I'm exclusive.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Where has the high selling season gone???
« on: September 17, 2013, 16:09 »
Sorry, selling moderately well here (money wise). On path of a +50% over August, beating also last year's Setember numbers.

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