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2151
« on: March 20, 2009, 14:37 »
why is the first quartile (Q1) often larger than Q2?
eg: how many images do you have online?
Q1 2435.5 Q2 612.5 Q3 1500 Q4 13000
seems that Q1 should be the lowest.
2152
« on: February 12, 2009, 13:18 »
2153
« on: February 06, 2009, 23:38 »
Am I the only one annoyed by the rejections that include 2 completely opposite reasons - "too many or too specific", "edges are too feathered or too sharp", or "too much noise or overuse of noise reduction". Well, which one is it?
--=Tom
2154
« on: January 09, 2009, 14:22 »
When I put in my RPI, the RPIs listed as previously submitted don't match what I typed in for the previous month, are they an average of all previous RPI submitted or what?
2155
« on: January 09, 2009, 14:03 »
2156
« on: December 29, 2008, 14:02 »
I don't think you have to have a canon or nikon, but I think a dslr is rapidly becoming necessary for the big sites. I started with a sub 4MP point and shoot in 2006 and got a 5+MP p&s in 2007 and then a dslr. When I occasionally use the old camera or work files from it I am struck by the noise among other things. I think it would be hard to get started with just a point and shoot these days. Curiously enough, many of my old files from these cameras continue to sell well, so it is the sites, not the buyers that seem to really care.
--=Tom
2157
« on: December 19, 2008, 14:51 »
There are many good things about SS, and them being #1 in sales by a large margin for me are near the top of the list. They do however have some serious issues, #1 I think is spam. They are really bad in that regard, and don't appear to be concerned or doing something useful about it. (DT seems to be both, and IS seems to be concerned at least). I think that SS is a bit of a lottery with similar pics, some get uploaded at a lucky time and get indexed early and get enough sales quickly to stay up in the search rankings, other very similar images don't, and never see the light of day. If you play long enough you are bound to get some winners, and at least it does appear that it is more of a random thing than who you are that makes an image take off. I am also not discounting that an image has to be good too, but there are a fairly large number of images that appear very high in the search that I think wouldn't ever get there if they were uploaded today. I like their fairly light touch on their forums, but there are some things they could do for contributors that would make things a lot easier for us that they haven't. (like some way to see how many DL and image has without wading through all the others looking for it, and a way to edit keywords more easily). I don't particularly care for the feed the beast need there, but it does help motivate me to make more images.
All sites have good and bad points, SS has more good for me these days.
I'd be very sorry to see SS get swallowed by a macro.
2158
« on: December 07, 2008, 18:24 »
As long as there are serious monetary incentives for spamming with little consequences, it is going to happen. I think the quickest little fix would be to get rid of the default CV matching for searches (so that spamming an image to the default search term brings it up first even if it isn't that term).
IS needs to report on how many portfolios have been cleaned up and how many have been booted for failing to clean up.
I think if any site really fixes the spam issue, they will get a lot more business, the only one that seems to have come close in my opinion is DT, as I rarely see lots of completely bogus returns there, and if i do, I can report them with one click.
2159
« on: December 03, 2008, 11:21 »
I think that there are a few problems with how IS search works that encourages spamming, or at least discourages what they describe as proper keywording.
Among these are the default keyword mapping. So (and this example is likely to be incorrect) if I search "border" looking for some sort of frame around a blank area but IS defaults to "border-national boundary", then by spamming a frame image as "border-national boundary" it will come up in the search, and if the buyer sees enough of the sorts of image they are looking for, they will search no further. Instead it should bring up all or none of the "border" images and ask for refinements.
IS also does a poor job of multiple word keywords, sometimes keeping them lumped together, sometimes splitting them - this can change on refining a search.
Often even knowing the keywords of an image it can be hard to find it, and the buyers don't have that luxury.
I do not pretend to be an expert at IS search, in fact I am lousy at it, but I bet plenty of people do low level default searches and as long as they get a number of images that appear to be what they are looking for, they just browse through a few pages of results not knowing that they are perhaps missing out on many more images.
Don't even get me started on all of the terms that aren't in the CV, or aren't in the CV for the meaning I mean.
It sounds from Shank_ali's example above like I should have 10-15 default keywords I put in every image (like nobody, photography, landscape (or portrait), color, etc. etc.), but then Valaaami is getting keyword rejections for just that.
I applaud IS for attempting to clear up the mess that is keywording, but they get a D for implementation.
2160
« on: December 01, 2008, 13:44 »
Now that the November results are in, I was indeed down from Oct over 50% (Oct was a BME despite the poor last week though). My November numbers were lower than my 3rd full month on IS with less than 10% of the total files up. (it did drop a lot after that 3rd month though with the first of many painful best match changes for me).
2161
« on: December 01, 2008, 09:59 »
quote:
"Maybe they didn't think it necessary to have the same key phrase in there 4 times? Huh"
That is possibly it, I think I might have originally had things like "ski-lift" and "chair lift" that all got matched to the same thing, but then why doesn't IS just kick it to one instance of their CV match? surely that is easier than rejecting a file and wasting reviewer time and pissing people off.
2162
« on: November 30, 2008, 15:14 »
oops I spoke too soon. If I could use only one keyword for this file, it would be "ski lift". Guess which keyword it was rejected for? The following keywords used for this file do not appear to be fully relevant to the subject. {[ Ski Lift, Ski Lift, Ski Lift, Ski Lift]}
2163
« on: November 30, 2008, 15:07 »
so far they have rejected all of my images keyword rejections for other reasons too, but boy do they have a weird idea of what bad keywords are. for example this panoramic image of the uinta mountains isn't scenic or natural enough for them... The following keywords used for this file do not appear to be fully relevant to the subject. {[ Scenics (Nature), Scenics (Nature)]}
2164
« on: November 30, 2008, 14:57 »
I've got some from Nov 17 and 18. Normally I'd say they weren't stuck, just slow reviews, except some from later have been reviewed. If it was a normal stock site I'd delete and upload again, but I am so far behind in uploading to IS with the limits, there isn't much point. The way sales and reviews have gone lately there isn't much point either.
2165
« on: November 28, 2008, 11:39 »
I ordered some stuff on the 25th so that it would get here before I took off in December, no problems with the discount (except I had to order something else to kick it over 200$ - but that is fine, another toy to play with). The package got here the 26th! wow, nice surprise.
on a second note on Adorama, a friend ordered something and later that day the price was lowered and after she called, they switched her to the lower price. Nice. It sure beats some of those fly by night bait and switch places.
--=Tom
2166
« on: November 25, 2008, 00:01 »
went from solid number 2 to number 4 so far this month, projected to be down about 50%.
2167
« on: November 18, 2008, 13:01 »
Without really going into exactly how and what they are testing, it seems that having more pixels hurts the test results. Perhaps a full frame 100 pixel camera could ace the tests, but what good would it be?
Still, it is nice to see someone trying to come up with some sort of testing standards.
2168
« on: November 16, 2008, 23:15 »
2169
« on: November 08, 2008, 22:42 »
I had a laptop hard drive die on me, and I managed to read the data off of it by freezing it and hooking it up with an external cable while it was packed on ice. I am not sure exactly why that worked, but I saw it mentioned as a possible fix online, and since it wasn't working I thought I'd give it a try. If nothing else works it is worth a try, just keep it wrapped well so moisture can't condense inside while it is cold. good luck.
2170
« on: October 28, 2008, 12:00 »
"Your file appears to have been up-sampled from its original size. As part of the standards of iStock, we only accept files at their native resolution. "
I think they just looked at the EXIF and the XXXL size of my stitched (from 8 or so images) panorama didn't match the camera resolution despite the fact that I decreased the file to fit that size. I suppose stripping EXIF will become one more stupid thing I have to do before submitting to IS.
2171
« on: October 27, 2008, 02:04 »
From what you can gather these days there is no completely effective anti dust system on SLR's. That's one good thing about Bridge cameras-that you dont have to worry about this. But getting a superzoonm to produce the quality needed is another thing!
I have a BIG dust spot in my powershot S3 IS. It is a pain in the butt, but I have gotten used to trying to place it somewhere it won't show up. I am tempted to take it apart, but scared too. With the SLR I get more dust spots, but so far I've been able to remove all the noticeable ones with either air or a brush. It seems to take 2-3 months to get enough in there that I start noticing them. (My camera claims to be self cleaning, but I don't know how much that really helps). It is a bit scary to reach into the camera, but if you are careful, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. --=Tom
2172
« on: October 17, 2008, 00:06 »
DT seems to return the least number of completely bogus spammed images, and if you get one, you can report it with just a click. I don't much care for seeing a heap of images from one contributor all in a row, which makes me think that that something about the contributor is too important in the search algorithm compared to the specific image. I don't know that the images returned are "best", but at least they aren't completely out of bounds.
IS could be good, but because of the limited CV and most importantly the default mapping it actually doesn't seem to work very well for me. Granted I haven't spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to make their search work for me.
SS seems to have a LOT of bogus returns. Partly this is because they break up multiple word keywords, but mostly I think they let in a lot of spam and do nothing about it. Also when you are searching for something which isn't particularly popular, more popular type images that have those keywords show up at the top of the search.
2173
« on: October 14, 2008, 00:07 »
perhaps using a polarizing FILTER is what gets you the overfiltered. It seems somewhat random to me, as do the rejections for incomplete MR. I have had them rejected for not having my signature, for not having my address, for not having the subject's birthday... (and the same MR taken before and after that). since I have plenty of images to send them my paltry 15 a week, I never bother resubmitting, but just send the next 15. It almost seems that the ones SS rejects for poor light are accepted at IS and vice versa. I have never had any pics with the bright popping colors accepted at IS, but I have heard if you can manage to get one in, they sell like mad. Since I stopped trying to send them my best sellers, but just send them everything once it gets to the top of the queue, I am surprised by how many images that aren't accepted elsewhere or are poor sellers are accepted. oh well. I suppose they know what they want, although it doesn't seem that way.
I have come to the conclusion that artifact = anything that is associated with a digital picture - digital noise, jpeg artifacts, banding, jagged histograms, tired inspectors, sensor dust... I have no idea what distorted pixels are though.
--=Tom
2174
« on: October 11, 2008, 13:23 »
This latest change seems to have actually helped me marginally, although with new files selling instead of the ones that used to sell.
2175
« on: October 10, 2008, 18:40 »
This COULD be a good thing, or they could mess it up horribly. knowing IS, I'm not placing any bets. If they go after people who have a few weird keywords (mostly due to their weird limited CV mapping), then it will be horrible, if they take out the serial purposeful spammers, it will be a good first step.
They also need to get rid of the weird default terms for multiple choice keywords to remove the huge advantage enjoyed by images spammed with those default terms.
It might be a hopeless battle, but if they can pull it off properly, it will drag the other sites (other than DT, which seems to have it fairly under control) to take action. Good luck to them.
--=Tom
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