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Figers crossed that SS doesn't come up with anything stupid. They do have a great track record.
(Oh yes, I already crossed the line for BME at SS, this is going to be such a great month! - at SS that is)

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The are so naive, do they really think it's the lower price competition (where???) that is hitting them?

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So, what are these sites with significantly lower prices and comissions? I can't think of any... the only alterntive I can think of is FREE.

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Finally something good has come out of the fact that my Fotolia sales are down about 70...80% from the best levels: If they are pulling this "white ranking" stunt on me, I will quit at Fotolia. This is the last straw. I have been very patient and tolerant, this will be the first time I quit an agency and pull all my images. Fotolia has become a middle-tier agency for me, I won't shed a tear if I pull my images and close my account.

Come on, Fotolia, you stinky greedy *insult removed*. Try me.

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Lighting setup book/resource?
« on: September 20, 2011, 16:10 »
Not, a book, but http://guessthelighting.com/

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 05:47 »
" the cream always floats to the top"  well thats what we want to believe isnt it?  yes maybe in the old days or 5 years back but not now,  forget it.  A bad search or best match,  can totally slaughter a top image,  it gets buried like the rest and fades away into oblivion. Thats that. Too many images, too many contributors, this and that.

Yes, but if there were less of the "same" images, there wouldn't be so much stuff to get buried under.

I of course agree with the "too many images, too many contributors" part.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 05:23 »
I fully understand you, just believe me and give it a try the results will speak for itself.

Yes, I sell my specialist/niche images as RM, the results are varying from very poor to very good, depending mostly on "luck".

You go ahead and shoot another apple isolated on white, If you have luck you could earn $2.67 in three years :D

Meanwhile I'll keep shooting familiar concepts with some new twists...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 04:57 »
I have hundred times (money wise) more success if I place my special/not too similar in macro or via my subagencies in the TAC. I tried both ways before but too place special/not too similar pics in micro nowadays is a big waste of money, they do have overwhelming more potential if placed right.


I'm not talking real niche/specialist images, just images that are done a bit differently in some way.

Let's say I would want to shoot some business handshake images. These would some of the obvious choices:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-2304477-handshake.php (hands against plain studio backdrop)
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-4705569-deal.php (hands against a field and blue sky)
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-16970382-unity-of-professionals.php (business people in brightly lit office)

Here are some "a bit different" choices that might get sold even at micros: (just a quick search at Getty's)

http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/dv631014a/Digital-Vision (frog perspectice)
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/985781-012/Stone (artistic blur, would get rejected on almost every microstock site)
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/88586601/Workbook-Stock (reflection in a glass table, would get rejected for "poor framing or cropping" :))
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/97595983/Flickr
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/81867587/Stone (I have not a clue what this is about :))
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/115622370/Cultura (Some concept with a curtain)

I'm almost sure if thes eimages were submitted at micros they wouldn't get buried as easily as some very basic average quality run-of-the mill handshake images.

Yes, the microstock images are some of the most popular ones with thousands of downloads. The problem is that everyone of the linked images already have - let's say - 100 similiars for sale, If you are going to succeed with a similiar image, you really need to have the best image and luck.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 04:47 »
Right but I and others have tried to put not too similar pics in microstock, matter of fact they got lost. The microstock market seems to demand the same pictures over and over or none of them. There are only two ways to be successful with not too similar or special pics: either you place them in special collections like Vetta and TAC, or you place them on good macro sites like Getty and Corbis. Otherwise you waste time and money. Microstock is about similar pictures its about proven standards, if you're pictures are special place them in a special shop.

I understand your point, but I have to disagree a bit. I think submitting the same business handshakes will be really bad for everyone. Maybe not now, but eventually. There are limits how many handshakes the customers need. They need some new handshakes with current clothing trends etc., but there are limits. If we continue to make new "same" pictures over and over, it's very logical that our RPIs will fall, lower and lowe because the sales are dividided amongst too many images.
Almost none of my new bestsellers are "different" in some way, they don't have that much competition. I have found some niches that are not "too niche", but just enough to be different. The real niche and specialist images belong some other places than micros.

I think there is a middle ground somewhere; just a bit "different" images that will sell. They might not be bestsellers, but better than average - just because they are different in some way. Totally oddball images that sell only once or twice are not good microstock images.

Here is what the microstock sites should do: They should stop rejecting for "low commercial value" (if it's not some clear cases of pets and sunsets), and stop rejecting for artistic choices ("harsh shadows" or "uneven lighting" that SS uses a lot). Maybe then people would produce more "different" imagery instead of the light high-key stuff that looks like it's shot in a light box. The best thing would be to let the customers decide by using clever search algorithms and perhaps throwing away garbage that hasn't sold in - let's say - three or four years.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 03:32 »
I don't think it's the economy.
It's the insane amount of new pictures hitting the micro market everyday. Sometimes it's that simple.


The worst thing is the insane amount of SIMILIAR pictures hitting the micro market everyday. This blog post by John Lund made me think a lot: http://blog.johnlund.com/2011/09/photography-in-path-of-change.html

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 17:25 »
What really surprises me is that Yuri doesn't have a special deal with Istock. Look, here is a guy (ok a company) who consistently outselling all others, even on Istock with just - what, 1/5th of his current portfolio? - and they wouldn't even allow him better upload limits (judging by the size of his portfolio there). That buffles me.

That's about the one and only fair thing that iStock has done. The rules should be the same for all of us. I really cannot understand why someone would thing that it would be a good thing if an agency would give some members unfair advantages and benefits.

612
Canon / Re: Something New is Brewing at Canon
« on: September 18, 2011, 15:00 »
A Retro compact camera? (Think about Fuji X100)

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Canon / Re: Something New is Brewing at Canon
« on: September 18, 2011, 04:38 »
How about a large-sensor video camera, like a 5D mk II but in video camera shape and with more suitable anti-aliasing filter for video?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: September 15, 2011, 03:07 »
So, your theory is that Getty/IS created Thinkstock just for fun?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales have tanked big time
« on: September 15, 2011, 02:27 »
Does iStock need a competitor in order to avoid problems with monopolies legislation? It isn't trying to wipe out SS, if it was it would be undercutting the subscription price, which it could easily do, instead of pricing at similar or higher rates.

Ever heard of Thinkstock.com...? (They ARE trying to wipe out SS, and soon when they have forced all images to Thinkstock they will begin the fierce battle. I hope SS wins.)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Is it not just a tad ironic....
« on: September 07, 2011, 17:14 »
Hey, remember: money isn't going to be what makes you all happy.

(I'll feast on my 17%)

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123RF / Re: It gets worse and worse here!
« on: August 31, 2011, 06:50 »
My solution to the problem is to NOT CARE. I don't look what gets accepter or rejected at 123rf. Because they have such an easy uploading process I just dump them my images and forget about them. If the upload was more time consuming I would be more interested in rejections.

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General Stock Discussion / Big 2
« on: August 29, 2011, 02:22 »
To me, it starts to look like we have a Big 2. My Fotolia earnings are only a 1/6 of what I get from Shutterstock (They were almost even sometime in history!)

Here is my current situation:

Big 2:
Shutterstock
iStock

Middle Tier:
Fotolia
Dreamstime
Veer
123rf

Low Earners:
The rest

So, do YOU still feel we have a "Big 4" ?

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General Stock Discussion / Stocking is the new Planking
« on: August 27, 2011, 09:44 »
http://stockingisthenewplanking.com/

"Step 1: Find a stock photo. Step 2: Imitate it. Step 3: Hilarity ensues! "

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-- Moderator - Delete this ---- !!!

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BTW I'm bored with images where people are using their laptops in direct sunlight. It looks always really stupid.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: shutterstock rejecting everything,Why?
« on: August 20, 2011, 06:58 »
well, she's going to develop some unknown groups of muscles you've never thought of...  ;D

She's more likely to hurt her elbow. And not getting the last squeeze because there is no weight on the muscle in the end of the movement :)
(btw. what is the light colored patch in the elbow, is it a patch of spotlight or what?)

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This is just a small warning to you all: Study and research what you are going to shoot, just to make sure everything is done properly. This will make your images more saleable!

Here is an example:

I have played clarinet (a musical instrument) for a long time ago. Some time ago I searched for clarinet images to find gaps in collections that I was planning to fill. I got surprised how many crappy shots there were, images where the instrument and/or the action looked totally silly (unintentionally). Here are some examples (from 323 results at Getty's):

Hands (left/right) are the wrong way:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/104821717/OJO-Images
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/108313623/Vetta
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/84049748/Photographers-Choice
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/78722497/Fuse

What are they doing? :D
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/96389322/Cultura
http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/88798525/UpperCut-Images

You can't play clarinet wearing gloves:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/LS000837/Photodisc
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/71078879/Stockbyte

I have no idea how they have managed to assemble the instrument so wrong
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/99276468/Tetra-images
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/57443016/Stockbyte

This is a mirror image:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/87854228/Dorling-Kindersley

The moral of the story: Spend some time researching your subject and/or get someone that is a specialist on the subject to be a "technical advisor". Otherwise the images may look silly to the trained eye.

Do you have more examples on other subjects?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: shutterstock rejecting everything,Why?
« on: August 20, 2011, 06:20 »
Nice image. My only gripe is that the bicep curl is done in a wrong wa, This is how it should be done http://www.balacore.net/exercises-Biceps.php (the left image)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What would it take?
« on: August 18, 2011, 15:53 »
I would be okay with 30%. That would be almost the double I'm making now (17%).

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