You know , there are countries where every company is obligated by law , that they should have a book of complaints , and it should be available to any customer in any time. You don have to frame it near the entrance to show it to the world , but if someone wants to write a complaint or see what were the previous customers or partners experiences with that company , you are obligated to show it to them. On the other hand if complaints are not only moral but messing with the law issues , the government inspectors are reading this books every now and then.


And , I wonder why are you always writing this moral business topics ? Weren't you the first one to brake them or don't agree or insulting inspector etc  , banned from forum, then from a site   so I guess you learned it on a hard way .  I just don get it why are you opening all those company defending, moral ,get as they give you , don't complain , you are getting on my nerves , be professional etc kind of topics ? 

Quote from: Lizard on June 11, 2008, 21:33

Quote from: litifeta on June 11, 2008, 20:52

Go Croatia


 

Ya those one , and we got less people in the country then Germany has registered football players be man , did we own them this evening .

Here we Cro here we Cro here we Cro


 

Croatia ... oh yeah, that is the one with a tablecloth for a flag? ha haha

It's hard but then I choose France, because it seem I'm the only one. Also France is the land of my ancestor... Maybe a poll about who's gone win will be interseting

Next game vs Netherlands

Can somebody explain why I didn't see the England team?

Ha ha , because Croatia beat them twice las year , so we made possible for all their supporters  to watch this euro without any stress.

Here we Cro , Here we Cro , Here we Cro

Uhu , I dont care too much about that , I have few backups.

Few times a came just after  999 999 visitor on a site and I have won few millions on that , so I could pick up that cash if I need it.

Some girl from Africa that apparently knows me ,was a princess , her father died , I forgot what happened then , but she only needs 10 000 $ from me so she can pick up few millions that will share with me later.

I can easilly buy a diploma , a maybe start building houses , be a doctor , or whatever comes on my mind.

The new deodorant that I use apparently attracts women very much , so that all of them want to go in bed with me , so I could start to charge that If i want to.

Or I can just ask Miz if I can live with him in the future , he is smart , so he will surely come up with a plan for the two of us . 

   

 

Lemme try and make some sense of this all.

Suppose I list my favorite ice cream flavors in the order I like them

1 Chocolate
2 Coffee
3 Strawberry
4 Butter Pecan
5 Cherry Vanilla
6 Frog Flavor

So if I go into a store to purchase lets say chocolate and they have NONE of my favorite flavors
Should I leave the store without ANY ice cream at all if all they have is say Vanilla, Black Cherry, or Peanutbutter Swirl?

Me? OH No.....I came for ice cream, and I ain't leaving the store empty handed.
So what in essence I hear you all saying is because they don't have your flavor, you ain't having no ice cream at all.

Cranky MIZ

Ill try to reply to that in your own style...

I suppose if  few years old crap tasted ice cream is all they got to offer , you would be taking that one.

Well , bon appetit mr Miz and good luck , hope you wont catch diarrhea.

Well , I would like add few , so here are mine:

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=5762482
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=2804823
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=3029050
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=5845503
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=5751161

Thanks

Sharpshot and others , I changed the above Fotolia link and opened a new topic over there,  to separate us from the people that  are pulling their work out from there.

I would do that in the first place , but I just saw the link someone posted and didn't read the content , automatically assumed that we belong there.

My bad , and its all fixed now.

 

Whoa! This seems pretty RADICAL!
Wow your holding all your new images HOSTAGE!

Are all of you prepared to take this fight right to the very end?
Are you willing eventually pull all your images off the site by a certain date if FT does not respond favorably?
Are you will to stick by your convictions and defend your creative license at all costs?

You do realize that your actions don't make a pimple on the ass of FT's business model.
....that your actions will hurt no one but yourself in the long run.
... FT will never cave in to your demands.
...you cannot unite all photographers in sufficient numbers to make any waves.

We will see just how far you are willing to take this.
QUESTION: If you decide to give up, and return to uploading again
are you willing to post that information too here in this forum?

Cranky MIZ

Please read , we are not uploading new stuff for now.

We will see how it goes

I think that this deserves a separate topic so i will just open a new one to make this more visible.



If you find that Fotolia recent changes represent a step backward regarding contributors position in the microstock industry,  and you are willing to stop uploading new images to Fotolia until acceptable changes are made , please sign at the bottom of the list bellow , with your Fotolia user name and number of your images that Fotolia represents.

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
jsnover - 1522



Here is the link to the topic on Fotolia forum , so you can join the list there,  but feel free to add your name  on this forum as well  cause I wouldnt be surprised if they remove that topic at Fotolia.

http://www.fotolia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=115945#p115945

Well I guess we can be happy if we don't own them any money at the and of the month after getting those sales.

So whats next that they could to for people at least for a while stop uploading there ?


I think its time for boycott after those moves , and there are already people on their forums who claim they will.

I suggest that we act together for the first time and write them a mail with a list of people who will not contribute with their new work under those conditions any more and let my name be first on that list.

If anyone is for that just drop a name on the list and if Im a lone rider in this try , well i guess I just wont upload new stuff there as an individual.




 

Funny , he says average commission for L size or smaller. Why would you do math with average commission numbers , lets use only L size cause thats whats the buyer gonna take , inst he?   And that changing the results for quite a bit , me thinks

And even if prices go that low , there would be people ready to contribute , and claim that those are the games rules and we cant do anything about it , and thats what  turns my stomach. Thats worse than giving them for free.

And I was probably misunderstood , but giving my portfolio for free was also figurative thought ,  what I was trying to say was that if I had only two choices , sell my images for 2 cents (or 100 of images for 1 cent)  as someone before stated or give it all for free , then I would throw them away in a moment.

I don't know yet where I would pull a line , but in the future if the (give our images for a bit more than free) competition between sites continues , I will surely pull my images from those sites , and let them (as Lisa said) collect dust on my hard drive. 


An just to add one more thing cdwheatley , people that have invested their time and money in equipment, props, models, locations, willing to give away their material for free..turns your stomach .Well same thing happened to old school stock photographers when micro came , and the difference in price that you and me and most of us here accepted to sell our images and the price they sell their work  , is much bigger than the difference in price that we got on our work and if someone starts giving images for free. So I guess you know how did they feel.

 

I had a bad month already , so when I just checked  my earnings I saw few $ missing , the I saw the mail.

Apparently customer returned two of my XXL images cause he needed larger files.

Well and if he got them anyway , how can they know that he did erase them from the disk ?

Strange