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I'm a regular visitor to Peru as a tourist. In fact I'm just back from my 3rd visit in 4 years. This time, I took some lighting gear and some props with me, and made some very fruitful connections with local photographers, models, Hair/MUA people and wardrobe stylists.

I'm going back in November 2013, and am looking at putting together a mini-tour of the country (approx 3 weeks) that will include a mix of tourism and photography/video activities for any who wish to join me.

If I can get some help from illustrators and audiophiles, am keen to do something in those media streams as well.

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Of note:
  • whilst we'll be doing some traditional "gringo trail" activities, a large majority will be leveraging local contacts in Peru to do something you won't get to do on a tour.
  • participants will be welcome to have family/friends come along (different pricing for this)
  • English/Spanish all the way (guides/translators)
  • Spots will be limited (not sure yet on numbers - depends on demand).


Flights: You need to get yourself to Lima, but once there everything is taken care of (including transfers from Lima to the starting points of the various stages etc)

Prices: The prices below are likely to be the maximum. I've been getting quotes on various numbers and what's below is based on the minimum viable number ie: as numbers increase, most overheads come down. Prices for stages 2-4 are the closest to final. Costs for Stage 1 and 5 in various stages of evolution).

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Potential stops (for all media types) might include:

Stage 1 - The Capital, Culture and Cuisine

Approximate Cost for this stage

  • Photographer/Videographer: US$1800/person + accommodation
  • Social/Tourist: US$850 + accommodation

Includes: transport and some meals, entry to locations. Models/MUA/stylist etc for all shoots.

Accommodation ranges between US$50 and US$90/night

Lima (4 days)
  • sampling a variety of Peruvian food styles with cameras and stomachs
  • fashion shoots in some very distinctive locations
  • colonial/period in the historic districts of Barranco and Lima central
  • Day in the life of Limean inhabitants (house maids, street beggars and hawkers, labourers etc)
  • various tourist activities including day trips to Caral, Lomas de Lachay, Museo de la Nacion
  • industry/cultural sessions for local Peruvian artists as well as international visitors to encourage exchange of culture, ideas and knowledge.

Pisco/Ica (4 days)
  • vineyards (including sampling the world's best Piscos)
  • dune buggy racing
  • sand dune taboganning
  • wildlife/bird sanctuary in Paracas
  • Nazca lines


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Stage 2 - Canyons and moonscapes

Approximate Cost for this stage

  • Photographer/Videographer: US$1800/person
  • Social/Tourist: US$1100


Includes: Accommodation, transport and some meals, entry to locations. Models/MUA/stylist etc for all shoots.

Arequipa (3 days)
  • El Monasterio de Santa Catalina, Arequipa Cathedral and Plaza de Armas
  • a shoot including the "7 mountains" that encircle the city to the south, including El Misti
  • Colca Canyon (2nd deepest in the world) and Cruz del Condor

Puno (2 days)
  • Visit the world's highest freshwater lake, Lake Titicaca, and Taquille Island, where the Incan civilisation originated
  • A day long train journey thrugh the Andean highlands from Puno to Cusco, with a photoshoot aboard the Andean Explorer

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Stage 3 - The Sacred Valley

Approximate Cost for this stage

  • Photographer/Videographer: US$2300/person
  • Social/Tourist: US$1600

Includes: accommodation, transport and some meals, entry to locations. Models/MUA/stylist etc for all shoots.


Cusco (4 days)
  • Day shoot at Las Salinas de Maras
  • Visit the fortress of Sacsayhuaman
  • Day trip through the sacred valley, visiting highland towns and staying overnight in the Incan town of Ollantaytambo before continuing to Machu Picchu
  • Machu Picchu (no scheduled shoots, but you can't visit Peru and not come here at least once)

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Stage 4 - The Amazon

Approximate Cost for this stage

  • Photographer/Videographer: US$1750/person
  • Social/Tourist: US$1200

Includes: accommodation, transport and meals, entry to locations. Models/MUA/stylist etc for all shoots.

Iquitos (4 days)
  • river cruise on the Amazon
  • stay in a jungle lodge
  • visit indigenous tribes
  • "Heart of Darkness" shoot aboard a derelict Amazonian ship (TBC)

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Stage 5 - The Cordilleras

Approximate Cost for this stage

  • Photographer/Videographer: US$1400/person + accommodation
  • Social/Tourist: US$TBC + accommodation

Includes: transport and some meals, entry to locations. Models/MUA/stylist etc for all shoots.

Accommodation ranges between US$TBC and US$TBC/night

Huaraz (3 days)
  • Day trip to either highland lakes (Paron or llanganuco), and the Portachuelo (highland pass); or to the Cordillera Negra and the Huinchus, with a full view of the Cordillera Blanca
  • Shoots in Caon del Pato, a narrow pass riddled with tunnels as the road snakes through the gap between the Nazca and South American plates.

Trujillo (2 days)
  • The sprawling complex of Chan Chan
  • Huacas del Sol y Luna
  • excursion to El Brujo (a recently discovered and highly valued site on the outskirts)

Website:
- itinerary
- registration


I don't know about flights in from the Americas or Europe, but I know the pan-pacific crossings are both gruelling and expensive due to poor competition. Once in Peru however, travel is moderate and everything is dirt cheap.


If you're interested in taking part (or even in helping me organise), please either reply to this post, or send me a site mail.


Ben

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Print on Demand Forum / Re: RedBubble and copyright...
« on: January 19, 2012, 16:09 »
I worked at Redbubble for 9 months and I can say for certain that the attitude to copyright was very cavalier.

There were several occassions when they received take down notices from Disney and the like, and at that point they took down the offending artwork. But ultimately, they leave it to the copyright owners to find the breach and take action.

There is also capability for regular users to report offending artwork, but I think that was mostly used for cleaning stuff that was violent, sexist, or pornographic etc. You could try reporting for copyright infringement and see how you go.

The CEO when I worked there has since moved on but it seems the process hasn't changed much. That said, the guy who now runs the show is pretty meticulous and I doubt he'd allow a procedure to be in place that he wasn't covered for from a legal standpoint.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:42 »
sweeten the deal for us and demand exclusivity. win-win.
I think it would take a long time for them to build up any sort of trust.
Look at the people (several) who severed their ties with other agencies to become exclusive on the promise that they would be 'grandfathered in'.
I'm sure most people would be extremely sceptical of any 'sweetening' of contributor relations.
And whatever the 'new kind of trust' JJ said iStock would have to earn was meant to be, there has been no sign of it since he wrote that over a year ago.

While I would love to go back to the heady days of  late 2008, it's not going to happen by wishing.

iStock, even if they wanted to, would have a long, hard climb to win back even a fraction of confidence and 'trust' from the contributor community.

They'd probably have to do a comprehensive reset (start again, purge a lot of the top and middle management layers...)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 17:32 »
Thanks Joan and Hank - I'll give the modified release a crack.

I favourited both posts but can't seem to give you an influence rating yet because I'm too new?

Ben

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock
« on: January 18, 2012, 17:22 »

I doubt it.  Inspectors are more like contract workers and not direct employees.

I wonder how the decline in uploads is affecting them tho - given they're paid by volume, surely a reduced inflow is going to mean less of them needed to maintain the queues?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock today
« on: January 18, 2012, 12:14 »
Indeed, one of the scouts was once particularly rude and overly aggressive, I'm not exaggerating by saying he was worse than Lobo. He was behaving like a cornered animal, after I relatively strongly, but respectfully disagreed with inspector's rejection.

Wow you bothered appealing to scout? what's their turn atound time like these days?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 12:03 »
Stockcube gave me this link in another thread (thanks btw!)

http://www.arcurs.com/what-is-a-model-release


Yeah I've seen Yuri's generic release. That's not what I'm asking about as it onoy deals with future shoots.

I want to know if istock releases get accepted by the other agencies for shoots that have happened in the past where there's no option for getting a new release (or set thereof) done for migrating a folio.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:30 »
To circle back to the original post from Lisa, how have people gone on other sites with regards to model releases?

I have a lot of files on istock that aren't from lypses etc but I only have an istockphoto release for them. I hear Dreamstime are particular about only their releases being good enough, what about the others? Do they accept istock releases in lieu of their own?

Ben

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:21 »
I've been to numerous photo shoot Meetups in Sacramento and met a lot of IS exclusives.  Can't tell you how many times one of them has gotten the "brilliant" idea to organize a minilypse and how many times I've told them I won't be coming, because of the image exclusivity.  It never seems to register...not until after they've done all the work and no one shows up.  Looks like the latest Sacto'lypse won't suffer the same fate, but...$425 to attend??  OUCH!!! 

The ones I've done in AU have cost between $100 and $150 per day & that's with costs squeezed to the max. Keeping them to 1-2 days is important I think but if the images are exclusive to a single site, people cam't make that money back.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:14 »

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=339193&page=1

Personally, I'm not sure why people are so into hosting these.  You give away a bunch of your good ideas, you flood a niche with content, devaluing all the efforts by individuals already with that content, and for the most part, you don't even get to shoot yourself, because you're so busy putting out fires.



I get a personal buzz out of seeing the images others create as a result of my efforts. At every event I've done I see people come up with images I'd never have thought of. I tend to leave the ideas to contributors tho - get them good locations, models, hair and makeup, wardrobe, let them do the rest. Some people really shine with this approach, others struggle.

On the flip side you're right. At the most recent shoot I put together I got to shoot for a total of 2hrs in a 3.5 day event. The rest of my time was taken up with trying to run the event and dealing with numerous issues as they arose. Afterwards I got accused of profiteering (when I actually sank a heap of my own money into it). Really demotivating.

In future I'm doing them as invite only.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: For Indies who pulled ports from Istock...
« on: January 18, 2012, 10:24 »
Great info on lypses Jami.  For the ones where they provide all that assistance and swag it makes sense to insist on exclusivity.  For the more recent ones where they didn't provide any assistance it seems a lot to ask. 

true, but most attendees are exclusive anyway.  back when I was attending these I didn't think twice about it because I always expected to be exclusive there.  My how things have changed.

I've done three shoot events in AU. Only the 2nd one in Melbourne in 2010 was a mini-lypse. We got a box of swag and a subsidy of US$30/photographer regardless of them being indie or exclusive, but the images were exclusive to istock. The money was paid to me after the event had concluded.

As the organiser I had to be exclusive as well.

At the end of it, the feedback from indies was very clear. Not worth it to only be able to upload to one site. From an organiser pespective I also didn't feel it was worthwhile.

I think the key changes in the new program are mainly around logistical support (identifying content gaps and making sure the details are covered), and it seems as though funding support is a sliding scale ie: the more backing you get, the more IS will contributr (i hope it goes in that direction).

I've been sounding them out a bit on a shoot event in Peru in a few years but it means I'd have to go back to being exclusive to qualify for sponsorship. If it's only US$30/attendee it's probably not worth it (US$ aren't worth what they used to be either).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock today
« on: January 18, 2012, 08:50 »
If they're downsizing across the board I wonder if that means inspectors and admins are next?

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