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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 07, 2023, 12:42 »
As I'm sure most are aware, we don't have an appeal process on rejected content. The reality is, if we were constantly re-reviewing each rejected file, that's all we would be doing. The review time would be much longer than it already is.

I appreciate the feedback. It all gets read by members of our team.

Thanks,

Mat

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Today I received an email that about 30 of my videos have been added to the free collection. Adobe pays me money for this, but I still dont see an increase in the amount of income in my account.
It's strange that suddenly in June Adobe decided to post a my new video.
Why not every month then?

Thanks for calling this out @Stoker2014. Yes, the Free collection team has selected another wave of video clips from the files you nominated in October to fill gaps identified in the collection. The email you received went out before the move into Free has happened. We expect the selected clips to be switched soon. Once done, the payment of $8 per clip will be automatically added to your account balance. I'll post an update here when that process is complete.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward




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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 07, 2023, 11:38 »
Matt... If you are out there can you please look into this.

The rejections as of late are insane. It appears that no photo is good enough for Adobe lately. It's very time consuming to have entire batches or 95% of batches rejected when multiple other platforms accept them.

Somthing is broken and please fix it.

Thanks.

PS My wife just had an insanely high rejection on her last submission.

After many thousands of successful uploads to Adobe and multiple other platforms we are both suddenly producing inferior quality. Imagine that.

Actually, I think you would be quite surprised at how high the approval ratio is at Adobe Stock. I think this would be a much more impactful thread if you would share some examples of content being rejected that you feel was done so in error. It's certainly possible as the moderation team is made up of human beings, but in my experience, it's pretty rare.

If you don't want to share examples publicly here in MSG, simply post the file number of the rejected image and I'll be glad to take a look..as long as you are OK with me giving a public answer with my feedback.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

Mat, I've shared an example here:


Same here. With AI images they accept "every crap" that I throw at them. They would probably approve a dog with 5 legs. But real photos?

This for example was rejected for "quality issues":



This is a 100% crop:



I know this image is not a masterpiece, but there is absolutely no issue with focus, exposure or noise, so I really do not know what to fix about this.

Other than editorial images, where I simply could never really understand Adobe's rules, and photos with objects isolated on white I never had any issues with rejections on Adobe. 10.000+ images passed quality control without problems and now I suddenly forgot how to photograph? But medicore AI images are all no problem? Adobe keeps disappointing me more and more and I have less motivation to bother with real photos and all the work that comes with them compared to AI images.  :-\

When a lot of people come out at the same time and say they suddenly start to have lots of random rejections when they did not have this issue for years, don't you think that maybe it is worth to at least look into the overal issue, instead of just single examples?  :(

It seems more likely that the issue is with Adobe, especially since it started right when Adobe started accepting AI content and review time grew to a whole month, than that we all suddenly forgot how to take decent photographs.

I appreciate you sharing the example. In my opinion, the image is "OK" or "fine". Maybe a bit hot on exposure, but within range which explains why you didn't get the "technical" rejection. My perception of the "quality" rejection reason is that it's just "fine". It's a subjective process and we definitely won't all agree on everything. My personal opinion is that this one could have gone either way. What pushes me to agree with the moderator is that all the plates are different. Having hosted more than my share of childrens birthday parties, the plates always match. This could potentially be used by a party store, but it's more likely they would hire a photographer to shoot the exact products they carry. 

It's easy to focus on the rejections, and I know from personal experience how frustrating it can be. That said, it's part of the process and we've all experienced it. My suggestion is to avoid taking it personal and look at is as a challenge to do better the next time. We approve a heck of a lot more than we reject at Adobe Stock and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Good luck!

Mat Hayward

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Rejections on adobe
« on: June 06, 2023, 18:36 »
Matt... If you are out there can you please look into this.

The rejections as of late are insane. It appears that no photo is good enough for Adobe lately. It's very time consuming to have entire batches or 95% of batches rejected when multiple other platforms accept them.

Somthing is broken and please fix it.

Thanks.

PS My wife just had an insanely high rejection on her last submission.

After many thousands of successful uploads to Adobe and multiple other platforms we are both suddenly producing inferior quality. Imagine that.

Actually, I think you would be quite surprised at how high the approval ratio is at Adobe Stock. I think this would be a much more impactful thread if you would share some examples of content being rejected that you feel was done so in error. It's certainly possible as the moderation team is made up of human beings, but in my experience, it's pretty rare.

If you don't want to share examples publicly here in MSG, simply post the file number of the rejected image and I'll be glad to take a look..as long as you are OK with me giving a public answer with my feedback.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe sales
« on: June 01, 2023, 09:58 »
...and they have for some reason left 0.01 cent in there 🤔 wierd. ....

I think this is a result of royalty amounts including fractions of a cent.

As an example, if your balance shows as $52.31 you may actually have a balance of $52.3144. You request payment, and as they can't pay you the fractions of a cent, you receive $52.31 and the remaining balance is shown as $0.01.

If there's any fraction of a cent left, your balance shows as one cent (I know rounding rules would operate differently). I've seen that in the past too.

If you want to know the real story you could write to contributor support :)

I believe this explanation from @Joanne is exactly right.

-Mat

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I have free PS through the contributor scheme until c July 2024, having redeemed the code we were given some time back, but the request to 'redeem' this has again appeared in the banner on my account.
Has this happened to anybody else?
My Adobe account shows that the code is valid until 2024, and if I try to redeem the code again, it says that the code has already been used.
So why the request to insert it again?
Just a glitch?
Anybody know?

It's an unfortunate design flaw. As you have noted, after redemption, the banner remains in place in the portal. The only thing you can do is ignore it.

-Mat Hayward

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Check your dashboard for info.

Thanks for calling this out, Sean!

Yes! The Free collection is back for photos and nominations are open. Please sign into the contributor portal and nominate any and/or all eligible photos as soon as possible.

Let me know if you have any questions,[emphasis added]

Mat Hayward

Mat,
I nominated a couple last year which they took but there is one I now want to remove. I've read everything on the site and can't figure out how to remove it. It shows the little box with free underneath and it has the same nominate button as the 90 other possibilities, but I can't imagine that leaving the nominate button in the gray is sufficient since the rules say it automatically ticks over year to year.
Can you kindly explain how to remove it?
Thanks!

Thanks for the question @Wordplanet.The automatic renewal did not get applied this year. You are opted out by default right now. You must actively nominate your eligible files if you want them considered for the Free collection offer. If you don't want to nominate the asset again this year, no action is required.

-Mat Hayward

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Check your dashboard for info.

Thanks for calling this out, Sean!

Yes! The Free collection is back for photos and nominations are open. Please sign into the contributor portal and nominate any and/or all eligible photos as soon as possible.

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

What about vectors ?

It's only photos at this time. Vectors are not up for renewal yet. Thanks for the question.

-Mat

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To me, Adobe's touting their AI as "ethical" while using our work without our permission and without payment, while thousands of people take advantage of that data in Adobe firefly beta, and now in Photoshop beta too, is simply wrong.

I've been so impressed by Adobe's attempts to engage the Stock photography community from the Discord channel to the plethora of free classes, AdobeMAX online free, and Mat's engagement here. I love their products and use LR and PS pretty much every day - and lately I've been blown away by PS Express on my iPad too. I'm also up 47% from this time last year in my earnings on Adobe Stock.

So, I'd happily be an Adobe fan, but their claim that their AI is "ethical" just rings hollow when we are left with nothing after they used our hard work, not just the photos, but all the time, effort and research that goes into the keywords too, to train their awesome AI.

They could not have done it without us. It's time to give us our share.

Thanks everyone for your feedback. We know that most, if not all of you are eager to learn the details of the Adobe Stock compensation plan for Adobe Firefly training. As you are likely aware, even with the integration into Photoshop this week, Firefly is still in beta which means that any content produced with the software cannot be used for commercial purposes.
 
I want to assure you that, as we previously stated with the original introduction to Firefly, we plan to compensate Adobe Stock artists for the use of their content in the dataset training. This is a top priority at Adobe. Im not able to provide details yet, as they are being finalized, but as originally announced, we will share information about the compensation when Firefly exits beta.
 
We appreciate your candid, yet respectful feedback. I can assure you that your comments are being seen.

Respectfully yours,

Mat Hayward

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Mat, can you please conform that the "checkbox" on the left with the blue color means an image IS  nominated and the one without the color means it is NOT nominted?


Because last year a lot of my images that I am absolutely sure I did not nominate ended up in the free collection, so this year I want to rule out any mistaked on my side.

As mentioned above, blue is nominated. Thanks for checking.

-Mat

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Check your dashboard for info.

Thanks for calling this out, Sean!

Yes! The Free collection is back for photos and nominations are open. Please sign into the contributor portal and nominate any and/or all eligible photos as soon as possible.

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Generative Fill in Photoshop Beta now!
« on: May 24, 2023, 09:56 »
Finally Adobe introduced its brand new Generative Fill technology with Photoshop Beta. Everything is can be done easier now but what are the usage circumstances of this feature? Can a photographer use it on photos and sell on any agency? As far as i know, Shutterstock only works with Dall-E and Adobe has it own Firefly technology.

Thanks for the question. While Firefly is in beta, it cannot be used for commercial purposes. Therefor, Firefly content cannot be sold in stock at this time.

-Mat Hayward

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Something started to work, but now I'm stuck on "This code has already been redeemed" when I try to redeem the code on https://redeem.adobe.com/

Obviously I didn't redeem it before :(

We are looking into this. I'll provide an update asap.

Thank you,

Mat

The issue described above has been resolved. If you are still having trouble redeeming your code, please reach out via the contact us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock Contributor Portal.

thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe stock video thumbnail
« on: May 15, 2023, 16:08 »
I remember Mr. Hayward promising this years ago, now he's gone silent.

How about an update on this feature, adobe can't be struggling for money and it's long overdue.

Setting a custom thumbnail is still not an option.

Thanks for your feedback,

Mat Hayward
I remember Mr. Hayward promising this years ago, now he's gone silent.

How about an update on this feature, adobe can't be struggling for money and it's long overdue.

Setting a custom thumbnail is still not an option.

Thanks for your feedback,

Mat Hayward
Why not? Why is Adobe having difficulty to implement this? Don't they see the value of it, is it to costly or does Adobe think it isn't of any value for us contributors? We need practical answers, be more eloborate then just saying it's still not an option. It's informative (but we already know it is still not an option). But it is not an answer to the question asked. More and more doubting the value of your reactions on this forum and why Adobe can't call things as they are from their point of view. Maybe we will listen if we agree or not.

I don't know why not, SVH. It's a known need, but has not been added to the list for engineering resources.

thanks,

Mat

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe stock video thumbnail
« on: May 15, 2023, 14:13 »
I remember Mr. Hayward promising this years ago, now he's gone silent.

How about an update on this feature, adobe can't be struggling for money and it's long overdue.

Setting a custom thumbnail is still not an option.

Thanks for your feedback,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: May 13, 2023, 01:33 »
Thanks Michael, I appreciate your courtesy very much. To clarify, yes, there is a large volume of generative AI content coming in which has created a backlog in the moderation queue. As mentioned, we have recently set upload limits to give the moderation team a chance to catch up in the queue. We are looking at up to 5 weeks in some cases for review times. I'm hopeful we will get that wait time down to a more reasonable level in the weeks to come.

Thanks to most of you ;) for your patience,

Mat Hayward

Hi Mat, thanks for the info but is there a reason, that you would give here, why some contributors images are not reviewed for a month while other contributors that submitted more recently are getting reviewed? I can accept waiting patiently except for the fact that it doesn't seem to be fairly spread out based on upload dates. I have less than 100 in the queue, the person I know with many reviews over the last month is usually at or under 100 in review at a time. I am speaking of AI mostly, though I do have one photo that is also waiting longer than typical. Neither of us are new adobe contributors.

Thanks,
Impatient for review justice  ;)

No, sorry but I don't have specific details on moderation queues and how they are set up to share.

thanks for the question,

Mat

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: May 12, 2023, 13:38 »
To clarify, the date range you see in your pending files is based on the date you uploaded the image to the Adobe Stock contributor portal, not the date you actually submit the file for review. If you uploaded a file and wait for a while before submitting, the time pending you see will be longer than the actual time it has been in the queue. 

That said, I acknowledge the wait time is still significant but progress is being made. We appreciate your patience.

-Mat Hayward
Thank you very much for the constant information!
It's good to know that things are progressing :-)

Have a nice day, Michael
Why these compliments? You look like a groupie. And is his real name Michael? I thought it was just Mat.

You could give complements to Mat if he would explain why this delay is happening. Most likely due to a massive inflow of AI images but that is not what he is sharing. He is leaving you in the dark, as usual, but you think it's great that he informs you. Djeez.
Hello SVH,

I think it's simply good that someone from a stock agency talks to us at all and keeps us up to date - it's perfectly acceptable to be polite and say thank you, even if this concept is apparently alien to you :-)

And my name is Michael (not his name), as it is usually added at the end of a note/email/etc. ;-)

And if you don't like me being polite, then please do us both a favour and keep your opinion to yourself!

Have a nice day,
Michael

Thanks Michael, I appreciate your courtesy very much. To clarify, yes, there is a large volume of generative AI content coming in which has created a backlog in the moderation queue. As mentioned, we have recently set upload limits to give the moderation team a chance to catch up in the queue. We are looking at up to 5 weeks in some cases for review times. I'm hopeful we will get that wait time down to a more reasonable level in the weeks to come.

Thanks to most of you ;) for your patience,

Mat Hayward

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Something started to work, but now I'm stuck on "This code has already been redeemed" when I try to redeem the code on https://redeem.adobe.com/

Obviously I didn't redeem it before :(

We are looking into this. I'll provide an update asap.

Thank you,

Mat

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: May 10, 2023, 15:47 »
Im over 30 days now. The status went from saying how many days ago I submitted my content to saying Submitted last month.

To clarify, the date range you see in your pending files is based on the date you uploaded the image to the Adobe Stock contributor portal, not the date you actually submit the file for review. If you uploaded a file and wait for a while before submitting, the time pending you see will be longer than the actual time it has been in the queue. 

That said, I acknowledge the wait time is still significant but progress is being made. We appreciate your patience.

-Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: May 03, 2023, 13:38 »
Taking up to 10 days to review content seems reasonable, but I have some content in the queue for closer to 30 days now. So I eventually contacted contributor support. Then I received the standard reply about a high volume of uploads and review times being longer than usual.

I also recently submitted content to another large site and it was reviewed in less than 24 hours.

It is taking on average between 25-30 days for illustrations to be reviewed currently. We are working to get this down to a more reasonable length of time. To do so, we've recently implimented an upload limit for new contributor accounts. This should allow the moderation team to clear the backlog which is currently running deep. Once that is cleared, we'll start to adjust the upload limit up or down based on the volume of submitted assets at any given time. The goal is for timely reviews for everyone and I am confident we'll get back there in time. Thanks very much for your patience.

-Mat Hayward

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Thanks for the updates and emails. We are looking into this and I'll provide an update when I have some information to provide.

Hello Mat,

Do you have any updates? I cannot use Adobe Photoshop any more without a license.

No updates to share yet, I'll be sure to post here when there is news.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Generative AI filter for Adobe Stock customers
« on: April 26, 2023, 17:04 »
Hi Everyone,

A quick update to let you know that as promised, we have added a search filter for generative AI images for Adobe Stock customers.This can be discovered in the filter panel on the left of the search results.

It is very important if you are submitting images created with generative AI software, that you click the check box when indexing to confirm it is generative AI. All other generative AI submission guidelines remain in place, including metadata requirements and submitting all generative AI images as illustrations regardless of whether they are photo-realistic or not.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html

thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for the updates and emails. We are looking into this and I'll provide an update when I have some information to provide.

-Mat Hayward

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HI! Question about AI-generated images with people. Do I understand correctly that we can skip par of "Witness" in the Property/Model release if it is AI generated image, as there is no real person under 18, for whom witness would be actual? Please share your experience, how do you submit images with persons to Adobe. I don't have any person just to use as a signature giver as I see in lots of youtube videos as suggested.

A property release is required for images that feature fictional people created with generative AI software. A witness is not required on that release.

More details on generative AI submission guidelines can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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To clarify, Kirsten is referencing the question from people who may not have received the actual email yesterday. As she stated, you must be opted in to receive marketing emails via adobe.com to receive this sort of information in real time.

You can be assured that any major announcements like the news about Firefly will be called out here in Microstock Group Forum too. :)

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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