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Thank you for the checkbox, very helpful.

Do we still have to avoid using the names of the art technique used, i.e. we should still NOT include watercolor style, Oil Painting style, 3d render style?

I am doing test searches and without art techniques all I can do in searches is color and subject or maybe copy space.

What is most important is that you do not imply the image is something other than generative AI.

Thanks Cobalt,

Mat Hayward

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-Submit each file as an illustration, even if it resembles a photograph
-Include "generative AI" in your title and as an individual keyword.
-Add "generative" and "AI" as additional individual keywords.
Thank you,
Mat Hayward

Thanks for the question, Anyka. If any part of the image was created with generative AI software, you must include the metadata, check the box, and submit as an illustration. Please be sure to reference the submission guidelines and FAQ for additional information.

-Mat Hayward


Hi Mat,
Thanks, that is clear to me, but I still have a question about model releases. 
Is there a difference in the way I submit the following images :
- a photo (non AI) of a real person photoshopped into an AI background + model release signed by the model
- an image fully created in AI, with a non-existing person created in AI + model release signed by me


Buyers never see the model releases - they cannot even see if a model release exists - so my question is :  how does a buyer know if the person in the image is real or not?  Is there something the artist can/should do to let de buyer know ?

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Hi everyone,

A quick update to let you know we have added a new generative AI checkbox in the Adobe Stock Contributor Portal. In the upper right corner, you will see a checkbox that says: "created with generative AI tools." Select this generative AI checkbox if any part of your image was created using generative AI software. Please note that other than this additional step, the submission guidelines have not been changed:

-Submit each file as an illustration, even if it resembles a photograph
-Include "generative AI" in your title and as an individual keyword.
-Add "generative" and "AI" as additional individual keywords.

I recommend if you are submitting multiple generative AI images, that you select all in the portal and take the appropriate steps listed above before completing your indexing process and submitting. Generative AI is evolving quickly and we are grateful to everyone who has taken the guidelines to heart and submitted fully compliant content. Please refer to the submission guidelines here for any questions or feel free to ask me here.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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I have uploaded some 24 Megapixels photos of low-angle pics like the one I include in the example.
Once reviewed, they were all rejected as found that "it contains elements that appear to be protected by intellectual property (IP) laws"
The tree?
Will the leaves sue me for recognizing themselves?
I had more pics like this not accepted.
All photos were more than ok technically without any person, property, park, or angle visible.
If they did not want the pics, they could just say so.
But rejecting them for "intellectual property" just does not stand as a valid reason.
What do I do?
Do I just ignore it and go on, or ask Adobe to reply in more detail about the rejection?
It's a matter that could happen to any contributor, that's why I am bringing it to your attention,
not because my stock life will be saved with just another pic accepted.

Based on that preview, if the file was rejected for IP, I would speculate the moderator mistakenly selected the wrong rejection reason.

Would you please share the image ID number with me?

thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Announcing The Adobe Stock Model Tagger
« on: January 11, 2023, 17:59 »
In cases of pics of myself I have used the same model release for a while - I presume I should upload a new model release when I cross an age boundary (or in my case is it possible to re-associate pics from a different age category with a different model release?) since it has been a number of years and photos since that happened.

I get a 404 error when I clicked on the "what do we mean by ...." link.

I presume we are to label people of mixed ethnicities/race as both or do we go with the USA method of just a little non-white makes one the non-white category.

You likely don't need to add a new release of yourself. You should be able to simply update your age range and any other relevant information in the Model Tagger. That will apply to the filters when they are in place. The keywords you apply to your current content should also accurately reflect your age range when the photo was taken.

As far as ethnicity is concerned, you should select the options that accurately reflect the identities of the models you work with, including yourself when you are in front of the lens instead of behind it.

Thanks for the questions,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Lifetime Downloads
« on: January 11, 2023, 16:08 »
So... my lifetime download count on the dashboard reset to zero on January 1st. I dont recall this happening before. Is lifetime now defined as 1 year?

The default setting is to display stats from "this year." You need to click the drop down menu and manually select "lifetime."

-Mat

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Adobe Stock / Re: 25 cent sales
« on: January 11, 2023, 14:01 »
Or maybe not.  It's been two days and the previous 25 cent sales remain (although I don't see any new ones).  Wouldn't the previous withholding tax be put back towards my sales?  Anyone know?

Previously withheld taxes do not get added back into your account after a valid tax form is completed. You will need to include the withholdings when you file your taxes at the end of the year.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

I see.  It would be nice to have a reminder before the year starts since other places keep the tax treaty info for years. 
As far as getting money back from the IRS when I'm in Canada, I'd probably have more luck suing Adobe for the money (in other words: it ain't going to happen).

An email was sent to impacted accounts in November informing of the upcoming expiration of the tax form along with instructions on how to renew it. Yours may have landed in a spam folder.

Thank you,

Mat

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Adobe Stock / Announcing The Adobe Stock Model Tagger
« on: January 11, 2023, 12:32 »
Hi Everyone,

Today we activated the Adobe Stock Model Tagger. This feature will help us gather data from your model releases.  We will use this data in search filters to improve our buyers user experience, and help surface diverse content.  The ethnicity, gender, and age metadata in titles and keywords will continue to be used for search relevance and remains unaffected by the Model Tagger information.
 
Heres how to locate the Model Tagger: in the Releases section of the Contributor portal, youll notice a + sign next to a release.  Click on it, selecting whether its a model or property release.  For model releases, select the gender, age, and ethnicity at the time of the shoot.
 
We have scanned the model releases of all assets licensed at least once in the past two years.  As a result, youll see that many of your releases already have information about ethnicity and gender added.  We suggest clicking on the plus icon to add information about the models age.  In the future, we will scan all model releases upon upload for the ethnicity and gender information, which will be added automatically.
 
Please see our FAQ for more information: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/model-tagger-faq.html

Let me know if you have any questions.

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: 25 cent sales
« on: January 11, 2023, 12:18 »
Or maybe not.  It's been two days and the previous 25 cent sales remain (although I don't see any new ones).  Wouldn't the previous withholding tax be put back towards my sales?  Anyone know?

Previously withheld taxes do not get added back into your account after a valid tax form is completed. You will need to include the withholdings when you file your taxes at the end of the year.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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An announcement has not been made yet.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Free Collection: Video Nominations
« on: December 29, 2022, 11:45 »
Will there be any new additions to the collection in December? Program closed?

No, there will not be new additions to the Free collection in December.

Thanks for asking,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Rejects
« on: December 29, 2022, 01:19 »
What is going on at Adobe. My entire last submission was rejected for "quality issues". Every single image.

Let it be noted that every single image was accepted at multiple other sites. This happened several months ago and after re-submission every single image got accepted on the second attempt.

Let it be noted my wife also shoots from a smartphone and all her images are accepted, I on the other hand shoot with a top end Canon camera with top end lenses and they are all rejected?

We would need to see some examples to provide you with valid feedback. If you are a Creative Cloud member, you can share your files by clicking the blue "Share" button in the upper right corner of Photoshop. From there, you can create a link to the image that we can all view and provide comments on how to improve your chances of success for future uploads. Viewers don't need to be CC members to participate.

-Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Tax Form link is broken
« on: December 28, 2022, 10:46 »
I'm sorry to bore everybody with a tax form question. But the link to my Tax Form on adobe is broken. It is saved on an old Fotolia url, which is now dead: https://eu.fotolia.com/Member/TaxCenter/TaxForm/W8BEN/xxxxxx

Has anybody had the same problem? - and solved it?

Regards
Niels

I am not aware of any system-wide issues like this, Niels. Please contact the tax team directly for assistance via [email protected].

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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@ MatHayward

Hi Mat,
sorry but I have an issue/problem with property release and I would like to ask for clarification.
From Adobe FAQ
"You may submit the same release for content created for the same project or within the same series, which includes works with the same model or similar themes created on or about the same date"
 (https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html)

And following this I send series of people with appropriate releases for each series /theme
One time all images was accepted
Two times all images was pushed in review for "property release issue", even the same images used for references in the releases.

Can you please clarify how to use the property release for generated AI people?
If you don't mind I'm sending you in pvt the image numbers to take a closer look.
It seems hard tpo understand exactly what to do, if a property release for each image, for variations, for themes, and why sometimes that are accepted sometimes refused.

Many Thanks

Hi Derby,

Thanks for sharing the file numbers with me, it's very helpful. As mentioned separately, I've forwarded those to our moderation team for a re-review as it's possible a mistake was made. If not, I'll be sure to let you know the specific reason.

I'll be mostly offline through the end of next week but will give you an update before then if I hear back.

Thank you!

Mat Hayward

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quality problems

but that seems to be a general catch all.

I process everything the same way and just 48h ago everything was accepted. I have been uploading nearly every day for a month and most files go in. So this is very abrupt.

Two weeks ago I had 15 files declined in one go, but they were all cartoon style drawings and I interpreted that this is not the type of content they want, since I also cannot see much of it in the gen ai collection. Might be a more difficult legal issue or simply not the content they are looking for.

But this was a batch similar in themes that were all accepted. So far I have uploaded 202 files, including the ones rejected now and I have 165 accepted.

I have processed over 3000 files on dalle, mainly because I am trying to learn about working with dalle, it is quite different from the nightcafe creator I was using before.

So I am only sending a tiny portion of what I experiment on to Adobe. Most prompts or concepts simply don't work as intented. I am getting better, but it will probably take me at least a year to get to the level I would like to reach. Maybe even 2.

I am sure the pro illustrators have much better success rates, but I am learning something new. It is expensive, but a. lot of fun. Actually sometimes the mistakes are the most interesting.

For me this is also a reminder never to fall too much in love with any agency. We are running a business and it is important to spread your attention to the whole market.

I was just enjoying it too much and this week I got the first 5 sales :(

I guess it is back to normal photography and objects on white. Boring, but it pays the bills. Will still do gen ai, just upload it elsewhere in the meantime.

I appreciate the feedback on your experience. I took a look at your rejected content and I'm sorry to report I think the moderators got it right. There were some funky crops and general quality issues that maybe came from upsizing? I recommend trying out some different software programs to see if you come up with better results.

Take a look at the collection as it sits at Adobe Stock now to get an idea of the level of competition. Before uploading, look at each file through the lens of an impartial content curator. If you can do that, you'll save a lot of time and effort. by submitting only high quality content with a high probability of strong sales. I agree that it takes a lot of work to create sellable stock content with this new technology. There is a steep learning curve that we are all trying to figure out as our portfolios continue to grow.

I wish you the best of luck with your future submissions!

-Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: This year CC Bonus codes program?
« on: December 12, 2022, 10:51 »
So, I guess no bonus free subscription program this year?

No announcement has been made in either direction on this, Sean. I will update MSG as soon as I have information available to share.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Moving to Adobe
« on: December 12, 2022, 09:05 »
I've been an exclusive vector contributor at iStock since 2006  but I'm starting to consider other options.
A few years ago I looked into contributing at SS, and at the time there was the option to open an account but not activate it.
This allowed you to upload a big bunch of images but not have them for sale until you'd completed your exclusivity cancellation.
I think after a while this option was done away with but I wondered if such a thing exists at Adobe?

We don't have this feature available. While I can understand the desire to have a seamless transition as far as timing is concerned, this could potentially harm your chances of success. If the content sits in your account with no visibility or activity, when it is pushed live, the system could potentially have pushed it deep into the search results over time.

Good luck!

Mat Hayward

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@MatHayward  Just to clarify, does "generative ai" need to be one of the first 10 keywords?

I'm confused because I submitted 6 varied generative ai images on the same subject, with digital embellishments. Three were variations on a theme. Four were accepted (two of the variations) and two were put into the "Reminder" category telling me I could re-submit once I fixed the keywording and/or captioning. The captioning for one of the variations that was accepted and another put in "Reminder," were identical, but I moved generative ai from the 11th keyword to the 10th. All had "Illustration," "Generative AI," "Generative," and "AI" in the keywords and all noted they were generative ai in the captions, so I can't imagine anything else that could have been wrong with my captioning/keywording. I just fixed them today, so not sure if that cured the perceived problem.

No, you do not need to list generative AI in the top ten keywords. It can be number 49 if that is your preference. I don't see any way that would have influenced the decision to put the file into the reminder category. Usually that happens if there are irrelevant or inappropriate keywords. Please send me the file number and I will take a look. There is a learning curve for all of us, so the more data I can review in these early days, the better. Email [email protected]

thanks,

Mat Hayward

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@mat
Wondering if you could shed some more light on the model/property release guidelines. I submitted some ai images which show a generic face. Sent a property release with these (following the guidelines) but they were rejected for the reason that they need a model release?

If a generative AI image is submitted with what could be perceived as a recognizable person in it, then you must submit a release no matter what.

If the person represented in the image is based on a real human, either via text prompt or image prompt, then a model release is required.

If the person is completely fictional and made up through generic text prompts not based on real people, then a property release is required.

@Dhav, will you please provide me with an image number as an example of a compliant file rejected in error? I would like to take a look. It's possible the release is non-compliant with our requirements. 

This is a new and evolving process for us, so your patience is very much appreciated.

thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hi @mat
Probably just me not understanding correctly but I submitted an ai portrait with a model release and that was rejected also. I think am example model release would be really helpful to see how we correctly fill them out.

I will need to see the release you submitted to identify the issue. Please email the file number to me via [email protected]

I understand there are still many questions about releases. The main thing to keep in mind is if your image contains what could be PERCEIVED to be a recognizable person (or property) then you must submit a release. If the person is totally fictitious, not based on an actual person in the written prompt, or an image based prompt, then a property release is what you need. If an actual person was used in any way, then a model release is needed.

There may be instances when you submit an image that doesn't contain a human, but you are asked for a release anyway. If that happens, simply attach a property release and resubmit.

You will find our release requirements at the following two links:

Model releases: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/model-release.html

Property releases: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/property-release.html

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

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I recently had a conversation on Behance Live with the Adobe Stock content lead for vectors and illustrations, Shea Molloy about creating and submitting generative AI content for Adobe Stock. During the talk, we covered some of the basics of the content requirements that you have already seen. We did a deeper dive into some of the topics that people have asked for additional clarity on, such as release requirements, keyword requirements, etc.

If interested, you can watch the recording here: https://www.behance.net/videos/d5886b09-7fa7-4c0e-8a27-0d4b9451884a/Submitting-and-selling-generative-AI-images-on-Adobe-Stock-with-Mat-Hayward-and-Shea-Molloy

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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@mat
Wondering if you could shed some more light on the model/property release guidelines. I submitted some ai images which show a generic face. Sent a property release with these (following the guidelines) but they were rejected for the reason that they need a model release?

If a generative AI image is submitted with what could be perceived as a recognizable person in it, then you must submit a release no matter what.

If the person represented in the image is based on a real human, either via text prompt or image prompt, then a model release is required.

If the person is completely fictional and made up through generic text prompts not based on real people, then a property release is required.

@Dhav, will you please provide me with an image number as an example of a compliant file rejected in error? I would like to take a look. It's possible the release is non-compliant with our requirements. 

This is a new and evolving process for us, so your patience is very much appreciated.

thank you,

Mat Hayward

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe stock keyword mess
« on: December 08, 2022, 12:26 »
Thanks for the help people. Mat, the keywords in my dashboard appear as submitted but in my public profile and the search they are different, as you suggested. Thanks for clearing that out. Some keyword suggestions are absurd though. For example I see "mobile phone" on many of my scientific illustrations :o

Yes, I'm sure there are some irrelevant suggestions made. The same thing happens with the keyword suggestions for contributors when keywording. You wouldn't (shouldn't) click on an irrelevant suggested keyword to add to your image when indexing, and the customer would ignore the irrelevant suggestion in their continued search for the perfect asset. Not clicking a word provides data for the system to improve, the same way clicking a word does. It's an everlasting work in progress.

Thanks for the feedback!

Mat Hayward


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe stock keyword mess
« on: December 08, 2022, 10:44 »
I just noticed that the keywords of my recent images/videos don't appear correctly on the customer's side - major keywords missing, keyword order off, completely irrelevent keywords added...
Could you guys check your recent submissions to see if it's widespread or only me?

The list of keywords you add in the contributor portal is not necessarily what is displayed on the customer facing site. What is displayed publicly is designed to assist customer fine-tune their search. Sort of an "if you like this, you may want to check out this..." feature. It seems to work very well.

The keywords that you actually added are what apply to your specific asset in search. The best way to verify the keywords that are actually applied to the file is in the dashboard section of the Adobe Stock contributor portal.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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@Mat , please, let us know all the secrets of AI in Adobe  ;D ;D ;D

I will get right back to you on that!

-Mat

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Dear Mat,

did you get my e-mail? I wrote to you again.

Best regards
Juergen

Hi Juergen,

I'm sorry, but no I did not. Please try again: [email protected]

If you are comfortable sharing the file number here in MSG I can take a look. Are you sure the files weren't renewed in 2022?

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

I was thinking the same as Phototom, some of mine seem to have been renewed. I know some are new and I did screen shots of the first set accepted. Then I wrote to you and some were added in June? I don't know how to keep track at this point. I mean, yes I can see FREE I just don't know which are new or old or if I was credited for the renewal.

The best way to verify is to refer to the email you received indicating how many files you had approved in 2022. Then, visit the dashboard section of the Adobe Stock contributor portal and filter by price tier to show only those in Free. The number of photos should match the number you were paid for this year.

If you can't find the email (I received mine on June 30) then you can email me with your Adobe ID and I can confirm the number you were paid for, to cross reference. I have not heard of any discrepancies in this program though I am always happy to verify for peace-of-mind for you.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

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