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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: February 17, 2009, 20:49 »
Or, if you can rustle up a few clients in the Euro area whilst you are registered on UK.......you buy pics (from any contributor) at 60p per credit....deduct them from your sales account and sell them to the client for one euro per credit + search fees.

Gee, ain't capitalism great. LOL.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: February 15, 2009, 07:47 »
We need, all together some kind of campaign on Fotolia to change this injustice...  >:(

By popular acclaim, one of the longest threads of FT has now been terminated by Mat the Mod.
 ::)
It was obviously an embarrassment to the 'Powers That Be' so the order came down from on high to minion Mat........."Make an end to this revolting thread". Also sprach Zarathustra......Beam me up, Scottie........and it was made so! ;)

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Perplexed Newbie with Question
« on: February 10, 2009, 06:58 »
I wouldn't stress too much over Fotolia rejections.  They are among the most arbitrary and inconsistent site for reviews. 

Istock reviews are usually dead accurate and provide a great learning experience. 

Amen to that! And if you look at some/a lot of the stuff that does get through, it's horrifying. Sometimes I wonder if they expect a contributor never to make 50 credits so the site gets to keep all the money! ;)

Meanwhile their database gets more and more polluted with junk.........then the buyers leave. :-\

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: January 04, 2009, 08:24 »
Bingo. Give the man a cuddly toy! ;D

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Canon or Nikon?
« on: January 03, 2009, 12:25 »
You could always get a D80 for <$500 and spend the rest on good lenses.
I've used a D80 for two years for both studio work and weddings. Don't exceed 800 ISO and there's no problem. At 100 ISO for stock, I doubt you will see a huge difference in the output between the D80 and the D90.
Or get a used Canon 5D Mk I from a careful amateur......couple of prime lenses and the quality will beat most of the other stuff out there!

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: December 22, 2008, 20:21 »
Ok, guys. I perfectly understand each of you, I am UK zone prisoner as well... But only few of you were able to express your ideas on Fotolia...The thread is small there. I suggest: help us there! Only people contributing to this topic on Fotolia forum are the same ones from the beginning. If we want the change, they have to see masses. Look at ranking, subscription threads there... They have  at least hundreds of replys by various people... So please, support us there as well... Big thanks to Andresr for his replies there!!! If even one of the biggest fish does not agree with Fotolia policy, it helps so much to our matter...

I'm no longer a contributor at FT, but during my years there it was crystal clear that there was no tolerance for an open discussion of policies contributors were not happy with. At the beginning, all users could see forums on all the different geographies, and then FT shut that down to try and avoid contributors discussing problems freely. They delete threads at will, threaten people who discuss FT policies on outside forums and anyone who's been there a while knows that as they've seen it repeatedly.

There have been some minor successes in getting changes (over subscription commissions and the initial policy that subscriptions would not count towards rank, for example) but they have not come about via discussion on FT forums, but by action on the part of contributors.

You don't try to organize FT contributors unless you're aware that doing so may result in the closure of your account, but if you do, don't waste your time on the FT forums as it's not a place for any type of free discussion.

Interestingly, the FT forum thread on this subject has been allowed to bleed to death........move along now, nothing to see here except the euro is now worth 95 pence! ::)

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I recently started uploading my work to microstock sites and became very perplexed with Fotolia.  I submitted 10 photos to Shutterstock as part of my application and 9/10 were accepted.  I submitted the same 10 to Fotolia and only 1 was accepted.  Not only were 9/10 rejected at Fotolia, but they were rejected within 5 minutes of their submission.  I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm considering terminating my account with Fotolia rather than continuing to waste my time uploading rejections.  Any opinions on the matter?  Should I stick with them and keep submitting content or just put my efforts elsewhere.

Here are the photos I submitted to shutterstock:

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=252346

I already have 33 downloads in 1 week from those 9 photos.

Thanks for the input.


Your images look excellent to me. Fotolia reviewers are a law unto themselves. If you really want to get mad, look at some of the 'recently accepted' page on the day that your images get rejected. You will be totally amazed at some stuff that passed review on the day you got rejected.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: December 13, 2008, 07:21 »
The thread there is actually quite long and yet it makes little difference. Almost certainly no response will be forthcoming over the Christmas/New Year period as anybody who is anyone will be 'away for the holidays'. Or, the ultimate sanction, the thread will just disappear. Just as a thread disappeared last week. That thread was about a plagiarist who had copied one or more of the better selling images at FT.
Looking at the copied image, it was obvious from the 'banding' (looked like posterization in PS) that something funny was going on. As soon as the question was posted, "How did this get past review?", the thread vanished.

Although we may have been led to believe that we (as contributors) take part in some sort of democratic process, we don't. FT decides. We either comply or vote with our feet. And very few can afford to vote.

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I recently started uploading my work to microstock sites and became very perplexed with Fotolia.  I submitted 10 photos to Shutterstock as part of my application and 9/10 were accepted.  I submitted the same 10 to Fotolia and only 1 was accepted.  Not only were 9/10 rejected at Fotolia, but they were rejected within 5 minutes of their submission.  I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm considering terminating my account with Fotolia rather than continuing to waste my time uploading rejections.  Any opinions on the matter?  Should I stick with them and keep submitting content or just put my efforts elsewhere.

Here are the photos I submitted to shutterstock:

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=252346

I already have 33 downloads in 1 week from those 9 photos.

Thanks for the input.


I had exactly the same experience with Fotolia a couple of months ago. Submitted 9 images and within an hour, they were all rejected on "quality of image" which in Fotoliaspeak meant that the reviewer thought that they were 'commercially compromised' ie wouldn't sell.
That same day,I looked to see what had been accepted and some of the stuff was just horrific.
At the time, I got the feeling that the reviewer had reached his/her limit of accepted images for the day and was rejecting everything that came in. Made me consider closing my small account too. As Lisa said, it's very unprofessional. Although, if I'd had her experience with a request for model releases for vegetables........I'd probably have needed medical treatment for the fit I would have had. 

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia changes Credit price in Europe
« on: December 07, 2008, 20:54 »
Argh! I'm stuck too to the US site :(

I'm stuck on the UK site which is worse since the dollar went up dramatically against the GBpound.
Worse still, I live in the Euro currency area and I have to convert my (hard-earned) pennies into Euros.
The way it works is that buyers always pay in their local currency units and the contributor gets paid in the units of currency according to the site on which they are registered. So, if I were on FTeu and a UK buyer buys my image, they pay in GBP (60 pence X no. of credits) but FT would have to pay me in Euro. If my image is exclusive, I get 50 euro cents X no. of credits which is around 43 pence. That doesn't leave much profit for FT. If it's the other way around and the buyer is in Euroland, FT gets 1 euro X no. of credits and I get 30 pence or 35 euro cents X no.of credits. FT makes 65 euro cents which is a lot better for them but worse for me.

Keep all contributors on FTuk or FTcom and sell as much as you can in Euroland, is the way to maximise profits. Contributors who signed up on Fr or De and get paid in Euro's are lucky!

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