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Adobe Stock / Re: Slow slow sales @ Fotolia
« on: February 16, 2008, 07:49 »
592 pictures, 7 sales in January, 2 so far this month. I am not relabeling my keywords or uploading new pictures with no guarantee for improvements.
Just for comparisson sake IS 142 DL in January with 250 pics.
Nuf said.
The good news is the low cash out price - I do not have to wait to reach it.

my sales are similar - i wonder why some people are selling much and others sell nothing at FT. FT has always been about dead last for me.

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General Midstock / Re: Rodeo searches new talented artists
« on: February 16, 2008, 07:46 »
and they appear to have categories - yuck

when are sites gonna give up on categories?

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Problems at LO
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:59 »
Everyone, check your keywords on recent uploads.  Only 4 or 5 showed up on mine that made it through last night.  I looked at other photogs new uploads, and they were all short of keywords.

That's been identified as a bug and they're on top of it - files should be getting their sticky words this afternoon.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: $1000 images on shutterstock
« on: February 12, 2008, 08:21 »
i'm feelin lucky - i have one image that is over $200 and one over $150 :)

as long as those images stay in the front of the 'most popular' for their keywords, i'll be in good shape :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Well...I am about to give up on Istock...
« on: February 09, 2008, 09:11 »
Remember that iStock is not the end user - the buyer will do the post processing he needs. The adjustments you make before uploading is irreversible, and therefore makes the photo less attractive to prospective buyers. I never do any post processing whatsoever, except for minor adjustments in levels where necessary and selective noise reduction where necessary.


I'm gonna run around disagreeing with this comment... I'm finding more and more that there's a good sized population of buyers on microstock sites that are NOT designers... this group wants mostly finished images and doesn't want to do all the work themselves!

I have recently tried posting images that are "filtered" - and i've posted both the unfiltered and filtered images - and both are selling well. Here's another heavily filtered image that not only got approved but is selling well.

So... although the traditional thought is to leave the image close to raw, there's a portion of the market that wants finished goods - so i'm starting to upload both.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: image stolen Flickr and sold on Istock !
« on: February 09, 2008, 08:44 »
One thing to note in this: the person cited in the article, Rebekka Guleifsdttir, is Flickr's Lise Gagne - an article in the Wall Street Journal even referred to her as "the web's top photographer". Personally, I take exception to this, and view much of her Flickr fame to be the result of her being young, attractive, and quite willing to publish provocative self-portraits in a predominantly male environment. Her work can be good at times, but not that good - there are very many other Flickrites who are much, much better. Give yourself a two minute break from things and click here to see her work.


Interesting - thanks for the link

I'd agree that they're not the best photos in the world, but they're very good photos - but then again, people often forget about how much processing is going into those - they'd be rejected for "over filtering" on most stock sites LOL!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Well...I am about to give up on Istock...
« on: February 09, 2008, 08:00 »
Remember that iStock is not the end user - the buyer will do the post processing he needs. The adjustments you make before uploading is irreversible, and therefore makes the photo less attractive to prospective buyers. I never do any post processing whatsoever, except for minor adjustments in levels where necessary and selective noise reduction where necessary.

I'm the exact opposite... i do as much post processing as possible :)

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StockXpert.com / Re: How are peeps doing at StockXpert?
« on: February 09, 2008, 07:58 »
I'm confused... how is it the MIZ can join 2 weeks ago and get several hundred images online while i've had 11 images under review for almost 3 weeks????

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: More evidence that IS favors Exclusives
« on: February 08, 2008, 07:00 »
You cannot tell me that player is not identifiable.  For goodness sake, his face is in the picture!  This is a lawsuit waiting to happen, and with 700 DL's already, it is just a matter of time.  Great picture, awesome shot.  Crisp, clean, great story.  But it is editorial only until that face is removed.


Um... did you consider the possibility that the photog has a model release for that image? Maybe it was his/her child...

Darn Diane beat me to it LOL!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Totallyphotos ghost?
« on: February 06, 2008, 07:20 »
weird!

have always wondered what happened to that beast.

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Photo Critique / Re: Charlies Angels gallery and stats
« on: January 27, 2008, 09:26 »
i agree - good effort, but some issues with lighting/model placement etc.... the orange weights under that gal made me laugh too right away... they should be cloned out.

More effort than i'm putting in so the photog gets more bonus points than i deserve! :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: My dog selling like hotcakes
« on: January 27, 2008, 09:17 »
I keep hearing everyone talking about this idea of making room for text.  It is my opinion that any designer worth his salt can easily do just what you did and make his room for text. 

Let's not forget that there are non-designers who buy images on these sites and need "finished" images. As much as we'd like to believe that there are nothing but skilled PS buyers, that just isn't so... people buy all sorts of "photoshoped" images that are more than a great designer would need... just look at the top 50 on SS any day and see how many images are put together from other pieces and sell like hotcakes.

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General - Top Sites / Re: New seach engine
« on: January 16, 2008, 06:36 »
Thanks for the PR!

I've tried their beta and this has improved a bunch if you ask me... tried "sanibel" (an island in florida where i vacation a lot) and the page is practically filled with my images :)

even my "white billboard" shows up quite a bit...

and they've improved the user interface a bunch too - not quite as hard to understand how to use as it was before.

could be great news for sales :)

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Lucky Oliver Big Wig list
« on: January 15, 2008, 08:39 »
plenty


Assuming you're replying to my comment about searches... give some examples instead of just one word answers please.

I watch the LO recent searches page a lot and don't find many user searches where they don't get darn good relevancy on the results.

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Lucky Oliver Big Wig list
« on: January 15, 2008, 08:32 »
I don't know why it would.  If I am a buyer looking for images, I want Search to return the best, or at least most relevant, images.  If "community participation" (other than message boards and blogging, what is there?) is influencing search, then you are not exactly giving buyers what they are searching for.  Why do they care if someone likes to post a lot?

ditto...it's one thing for an IS to engine tweak (even though i disagree with it) because they have the traffic and revenue stream to get away with it. LO has neither. It just winds up a mess, and as you said, may not deliver the image the client is searching for...not really the best way to "service" your customers OR your contributors.

Have you people done any searches at LO? What makes you think they aren't relevant? I think LO has dang good search results compared to IS.

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: doubts about LO
« on: January 15, 2008, 08:31 »
I do not have time and skills to write massive amounts of comments which eventually drive traffic also to your own portfolio as well.

Exactly.  That's not a good way to drive traffic to a portfolio.  Has anyone considered that it tilts heavily toward Americans, who are chatting together and leaving comments for each other, as opposed to people from other countries who may be producing brilliant imagery?  But even so, why should folks pairing up on the message board to write comments for each other be allowed to gain added spotlight?  It seems more like a scheme than it does a relevant search result.

And why should "Views" play a role in portfolio exposure anyhow?  A View without a Sale is totally useless.  In fact I would go as far as to say a high ratio of Views to Sales suggests prospective buyers are clicking on your images, and determining that it doesn't meet their standards.

You're all assuming that the comments are a massive sway in the search results (you know what happens when you assume!)... we don't know exactly how much it weighs in the search algorithm... you don't know what goes into any site's "best match" - some include views (contrary to your comment above, but it does happen), some add weight for recent views, some include sales, some include ratings (who knows why), some include voodoo.

LO is trying to build a community with some user involvement... this is one way to encourage that.

By the way, it must not be a huge factor as i post all the time (since i'm forum moderator) but yet do a search and my images are NOT usually at the front of the results.

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Lucky Oliver Big Wig list
« on: January 15, 2008, 08:16 »
I'm not aware of the details about what Bryan's talking about, but I imagine that all participation in the LO community counts.
I don't know why it would.  If I am a buyer looking for images, I want Search to return the best, or at least most relevant, images.  If "community participation" (other than message boards and blogging, what is there?) is influencing search, then you are not exactly giving buyers what they are searching for.  Why do they care if someone likes to post a lot?

What are the little tricks that all the other sites use for their "best match" or "most popular"? It isn't just one thing that they use, some use ratings, some use a flavor of new vs old, some use voodoo... LO happens to have thrown in a bit of the "community" aspect. I'm not saying it is any more right or wrong than the voodoo that any of the other sites use. It is just one small piece of the "best" pie.

Suppose you were trying to build a site, what would you do to help those people who put something into the site? Especially someone who helps others by commenting on the photos, either to help them become a better photog or to help get the image noticed via search engines, or to help add/remove sticky words (as appropriate) etc. Wouldn't it help to reward those who participate a tiny bit? (Again, we don't know how much this factors into the search - it could be just 5% or something).

Lets not make everyone think that LO searches aren't first based on sticky words either... LO has some pretty darn relevant searches.

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Lucky Oliver Big Wig list
« on: January 15, 2008, 06:35 »
I think rewarding Carnies that have participated in the community with exposure isn't a bad thing.  It's statistical analysis. Many of these artists are driving traffic to other people's work. 


I respectfully disagree Bryan.  I don't like the idea of awarding a lot of message board posting with increased portfolio exposure.  A lot of the posts I read when I was active had to do with griping about slow site traffic, and how people were doing at other agencies.  I don't know why this should be rewarded with portfolio exposure.

If you are looking for innovative ways to give people empowerment and exposure, I suggest basing an idea on 123RF's "Fave" list, which is one of the simplest, best ideas I have come across.  It allows contributors to take 1 image for every 20 accepted images (5%), and "Fave" it.  The result is the any "Faved" image ends up near the top of the relevant search list. 

I like this type of empowerment, as it allows artists to put their money with their mouth is with ideas of what their best images are.  Something along these lines is smart in my opinion, and a lot more empowering than something you are going to run into elsewhere.  Think along these types of lines and get artists more involved with promoting their portfolios.  If people want to post a lot, let them post a lot. 

Um... Bryan didn't say it was only 'message board posting' that he was talking about... LO allows comments on photos, blogs, as well as the Odditorium. I'm not aware of the details about what Bryan's talking about, but I imagine that all participation in the LO community counts.

And, you must not read the Odditorium much because there's a lot more there than just the few posts about sales. People are very helpful and work together to improve their portfolios on LO.

LO's SideShow feature is very similar to the 'fave' idea at 123 - different implementations obviously, but similar in concept. I agree 123's doing a good thing there - tho i wasn't aware of it before so i appreciate you pointing me to it :)


I prefer to create images rather than chat about a site.

Hmm... what is it you're doing here? LOL

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: doubts about LO
« on: January 15, 2008, 06:07 »
On a positive note... I have had over 100 DLs at LO and have had 2 payouts. Not the kind of start that I wanted, but right now, for me (for whatever reason) LO is doing much better than Fotolia.

I don't know why people would bail on LO once putting images up there... and it is absolutely painless to upload to with FTP. I have a script set up for all of the sites that allow FTP (which leaves all but one LOL!) - i put images in a specific folder for each site, and overnight, they get uploaded. The next morning i go to the site and finish the upload... with LO that means a whopping 2 clicks i think... most of the other sites that require categories and such requires much more effort.

Anyway, I see LO taking off eventually so I won't bail out unless they have to shut their doors and i don't see that happening.

Disclaimer: yes, i am the LO forum moderator.

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LuckyOliver.com / Re: Lucky Oliver Big Wig list
« on: January 14, 2008, 18:28 »
So how is this list defined?


If i can expand on what Bryan said... i believe that since LO defines a portfolio with a special link, they are probably reporting on specific hits to the entire portfolio view - not adding up views (which is what bryan said)... example: http://www.luckyoliver.com/portfolio/maunger

Does that help?

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Microstock News / Re: Keyword research and science.
« on: January 14, 2008, 10:59 »
-   The adult and adults are useless, and almost never lead to sales.


interesting that "adult" ends up high on LO's blog post of top keywords

maybe indeed it didn't lead to sales, but it sure might be getting someone some 'face' time for the photos.

just found it interesting that it ended up #13 on the list

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: January 14, 2008, 10:48 »
sorta off topic (but still shutterstock)

i find it funny that the #1 photo for the last week in sales has been removed for copyright issues, but still shows in the top 50 list!



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I've joined FP and uploaded a bunch of images... nothing yet (and don't want to put too much effort into it i'm afraid)

I guess i should really upload more to Fotolia, i get maybe 3-4 sales a month there yet everyone talks like it is going gangbusters... do they put my images on the back of the heap if i don't regularly upload??

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Microstock News / Re: 5 Million Uploads
« on: January 02, 2008, 07:48 »
that doesn't mean they've all been accepted and are selling on their site :)

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FTP seemed to be back on so I uploaded 47 files.... none of them are there! I guess FTP is still crap at LO.  >:(

Has worked like a charm for me since it is back up. Maybe you should talk to support - they're very helpful. Much better option than just venting here in my opinion.

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