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New Sites - General / Re: RawStockPhoto - new stock site
« on: February 23, 2013, 15:22 »
"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

I know that and probably everyone here knowes that also.

but the reason i said what i said is because he wants raw files and since he is in Bulgaria what recorse do i have against him when he dissapears with my files and or money? thats why.


So, everyone who is from Bulgaria and wants to start is business is automatically a fraud? To be honest, I have worse experiences with US companies (e.g. Getty or Paypal).

So, everyone who is from Bulgaria and wants to start is business is automatically "NOT" fraud?

Could be just me but i will pass on this.

and you like me have the option to do the same with getty and or paypal!

P.S. if the co. is where i am, then ican come after them using the laws of the condry we are in. and if that dont work i can pay them a visit:)

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New Sites - General / Re: RawStockPhoto - new stock site
« on: February 23, 2013, 15:07 »
"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

I know that and probably everyone here knowes that also.

but the reason i said what i said is because he wants raw files and since he is in Bulgaria what recorse do i have against him when he dissapears with my files and or money? thats why.

and for the record i love Bulgaria, its on tmy bucket list of places to visit. but that dosent mean i trust a stranger opening a new site wanting my "RAW" files no less!!!!

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Stocksy / Re: Stocksy - Are You Curious? Response?
« on: February 22, 2013, 19:47 »
It's new. Here's the original page:




is this going to be only celebrity photos?
why does he have Billy Bob Thornton on his landing page?

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New Sites - General / Re: RawStockPhoto - new stock site
« on: February 22, 2013, 18:09 »
"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

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New Sites - General / Re: RawStockPhoto - new stock site
« on: February 22, 2013, 17:03 »
is this a good idea?

is there a market for raw photos???

did not DT do the raw thing already. i uploaded a few and none sold as raw, it was a total wast of my time.

Not to mention nowadays with everyone doing a rights grab on our photos, is it a good idea to send away our raw photos to the big vast internet pirats!!!

With all do respect i will keep my raw photos till someone prys them out of my dead mummified hands.

its the only proof we realy have showing we indeed are the ones who took the original photo and hold copy right to it.

whats your view on this?

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New Sites - General / Re: RawStockPhoto - new stock site
« on: February 22, 2013, 16:53 »
is it only raw photos, or can one decide to upload jpg's?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 14:04 »
ok this thread is abt "sjlocke was just booted from iStock".please continue the conve according to the topic.

i will not post here anymore.

i do thank most of you for listening to my opinion/ consp therory.

im not a troll i just have a dif view from most.

sorry to derail the thread.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 13:39 »
For the trolls, we've told you you've got all your facts wrong.  Go and spend a week reading all the threads about the istock/Getty Google deal and D-Day, come back and apologise to all of us and Sean.  Then you might get some respect.
i dont think i got all my facts wrong, some, like he did delete 30 pics, but still most are correct, some are subject to interpretation.

re sean, you guys say he is upright and vocal and what not. i said befor, ok could be true, i just do not know him so much. all i know is what i see recently, when he became the getty example. thats what i based my opinion on.

just want to say im not the type of person to make up stories for no reason. i am NOT a troll coming on here just to cause drama. i took what i saw and made a opinion.
btw: it would suck big time if im wrong. and this is not an ego thing for me, so i would apologise. but we/i cant know what goes on in anothers mind. all i can do is look at actions and go from there.

btw: what are we doing now?
what happend with istock feb 2 D-day. whats the offical outcume?
are you all still uploading, anywhere. i jut cant find the will anymore. i have a bunch of pics waiting to b keyworded and i cant find the heart to do it anymore. im thinking all the micros will go the getty way (free images).
so very depressing

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 13:16 »
Quote
and this is the brain power that got us hear in the first place. when you cant defend yourself start calling ppl names, nice.

Sorry didn't you start the name calling bit by telling us we're all "brainless sheep"? Baaa.

Ok im sorry--it just pisses me off. we talk like adults then one person comes and namecalls or makes a snide remark. and i get carried away and do the same. sorry for that, i wont name call again.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 13:03 »
Dont complain if "trolls" like us come back here for a good laugh from time to time, you guys at least are entertaining, sort of like watching a reality show or a soap opera.
Are you sure your name is not misspelled, Stockturd?

and this is the brain power that got us hear in the first place. when you cant defend yourself start calling ppl names, nice.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:46 »
And someone that ignores facts if there's an opportunity to attack someone.  Classic troll behaviour.

ou are reffering to what?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:46 »
most of them--im just not a fanboy of anyone of them.
well not getty or istock anymore. i deleted may accts cause u cant recover once you image is given for free!!!!!

Well, you sound as a very bitter person ready to bark or bite at anything that passes by you.

you are right! i am bitter and sad at the events going on in the last few years with the micros and our actions!
i just want ppl to understand they are not on you side. thats it.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:44 »
Yes, there's a lot of agendas here. People that are generally anti micro lashing out and one person who has had lots of accounts here, and always ends each incarnation the same way, calling everyone sheep and idiots. Real shame it had to happen on a thread about such a serious topic.

if u are reffering to me:

i have not had losts of accts here. i fairly recently changed my name to protect myself from the micros once i started critisising them.

i guess im anti micro, you could say that. but i go on using them as much as i can. you should do the same.

what else can one say...sheep dont think they follow each other in packs, to the point of falling of a cliff together!
if anything im have been the most helfull person on here trying to ope ou eyes to the posibility of alterior motives and to the fact theat the micrs ar not you friend!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:35 »
This thread has really brought some mean nasty trolls out from under their rocks. 

Have to admit I am shocked at the amount of hostility directed at Sean from people who don't even know him.

no hostility is directed a sean, i responding to the events that have transpired.

and--you know him, you hang out and have a beer after a shoot?   do you?

i dont need to know someone personaly to make a judgment call on his actions.  1+1=2

we already covered that troll def. if you dont agree with the masses you are a troll.


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:29 »
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

looking at your previous posts here at MSG I see you are in the same agencies as we all are also, can you tell us which agencies you are working with?

most of them--im just not a fanboy of anyone of them.
well not getty or istock anymore. i deleted may accts cause u cant recover once you image is given for free!!!!!
 
i know they all are ripping us off, but we have created them, by accepting there tos. including me.
and i dont go around praising one over the other. i dont see this one as good and this one as bad and this one as in the middle. they are all ripping us off. some more then other.

i dotn go around sayig things like SS can i become exlusivecause i love you. they are the same the want to give less to me so they can take more.

and btw:ss is the worst-with the subs they have devalued our photos the most. but what do we do...we praise them caus the rep 40-60% of our stock incom. its our fault! dont praise them just take the $ and run cause there is no ther option.

if there is one thing i want to get across is they are all out to rip you off, so stop praising any of them.

even this new stokcsy or whatever coming out now from the creator of istock. he put us in this mess in the first place. he sold out to getty just like we sell out everyday when we upload our photos! re stoksy, i do not belive it will be for everyone. it will be for the chosen few, the big ports? and how long till he sells out again?

trust no one

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 11:54 »
I guess my problem is having an opinion that does not follow the brainless masses.
im blessed with that problem and hope it never goes away.
is that the definition of troll--someone who does not agree with you? silly.
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

I'd say telling everyone who doesn't share your opinion to be part of the "brainless masses" is what qualifies you as a troll.

Im done whats that saying..........you cant fix stupid", sheep.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 10:32 »

he broughtit to everyones attention. i belive he even said this.
he sure as heck was the worlds biggest chearleade---see his monky script or whatever he calls it.
he deleted 30 of his pics to test his script.
he did manipulate everyone. open yor eyes for you own sake.
its not abt me and what i deleted or did not delete. its about you not noticing what is going on befor your very eyes!

again what i delete on not has nothing to do with what i say. i act on my own accord not what the general public opinion is. so i do not regret nor do i blame anyone for my actions.
my friend im not a child and do think for myself  and make my own decisions. and i am not afraid to think for myself and look into things and evaluate what just happend. im not "fibbing" as you say i clearly stated this is my opinion and ask you all loke and consider it.

evidently im notthe only one who thinks like this....see my last post where i quote:bokehgal.

its just so very sad that you guys have this heard mentality and follow eachother, like 8 yrolds.

you kow what they say about the view of the followers right, it never changes, your always looking at, you know what.

think think brotha think!

Lol So let me get this straight.  Although you state you act on your own accord, you're assuming everyone else that deleted their account only did so because Sean brought this issue to everyone's attention?  Because he wrote a script that makes deleting files a bit easier?  So if he hadn't brought it to everyone's attention and someone else did, and hadn't wrote that script, everyone would sit there and do nothing?  They would just accept iStock/Getty handing over their images to Google to distribute for free?  Are you saying this has nothing to do with them actually wanting to protect their intellectual property, their livelihood... their current and future income, including the income generated from the same images licenced on other sites? 

Is that what you're saying? lol.

ETA

i dont know, i think you are just being defensive trying to uphold your point. thats the nicest way i can respond? i dont want to get censored again.

Maybe there's a reason you get sensored and banned but you don't seem to understand its you that's the problem. Just go away. Go find a meat market and stand in the door shouting how we should be vegetarians. Leaf should ban you for life for being a repeat troll.

I guess my problem is having an opinion that does not follow the brainless masses.
im blessed with that problem and hope it never goes away.
is that the definition of troll--someone who does not agree with you? silly.
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 02:05 »
...PS: I actually agree with your line about "there is no enemy, it's just business".

I think that if two businesses cease to be partners when one takes something from the other you can quibble about whether you call the taker an enemy or the competition or something else, but Getty images sure as heck isn't a partner or on the side of its contributors. I picked the word enemy to describe what they became after the reneged on a number of terms in iStock the ASA - using the 30 day notice and ability to change the contract in any way they felt like - stopped being an agent and became a distributor, and so on.

"It's just business" seems to suggest that there is no place for ethics, honesty or long term partnerships in business. I don't buy that argument even if there's a huge pool of businesses that operate on the moral code of "if it's not illegal it's OK". Perhaps if you start out on the footing that "I'm bigger than you and will try to take the most from you and pay you the smallest amount I can get away with" you'd know what you were dealing with. Getty said one thing and later did something entirely different. They are certainly an obstacle to my success and a force that has done harm to many of their acquisitions and contributors. I think enemy fits reasonably well even if there's nothing personal about it at all.

My point was that Sean Locke was not the appropriate target of the posters' ire - that they should direct it at Getty Images where it properly belonged.

i agree with most everything.
everyone seams to operate with what u say ""if it's not illegal it's OK" nowadays.
its a sad world we live in where everytime i turn around someone wants more money from me and do not care how they get it from me.
re your last paragraph: from what im told abt sean, im kinda like him, in the sence that, i say it like i see it. could be im wrong, but thats the way i see it.

we need to stop thinking these companys are on our side....we NOW (i hope) can agree they are not. we need to play the game and use them.

if sean did what he did and said what he said with no malice i applaud him if not then he is just as bad as getty.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:58 »
ok will do its 2a.m.

but just so we are clear.....its just my O P I N I O N .

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:50 »
Ouchie, what you and bokehgal are saying is purely based on your interpretation of what is going on in his mind. You interpret his actions as being those of a narrow-minded, greedy self-serving person. In order to think that, you have to ignore his long history of helping people, regardless of the fact that they were his competition.

Sean's behavour is entirely consistent with that of someone who believes that the truth matters more than self-interest and who genuinely wants to help others and is willing to go out of his way to do so. I've known a handful of journalists like that. It's a somewhat self-destructive character trait but it's the one that people who break the important stories have, while the self-serving lot are busy rewriting press releases or accepting "hospitality" from corporations they then praise to the heavens.

I'm afraid your assumptions probably say more about your own personality than about Sean's.

PS: I actually agree with your line about "there is no enemy, it's just business".

yes again my opinion.
but i will admit i dont know sean! im generating my opinion by what i see. if he is the type of person you say and he has been like that consistently...well then, i dont know?

so you can see it from my eyes, and so we keep it civil,  all i know is this:

1, he made the script to make deleting easy.

2, he was a big impetus in moving this forward. then he sat on the sidelines (he actualy said that in an artical i read) and watch it go down.

3, he did not delete any images. Ok he dileted 30, he said.

thats basically what i base my opinion on.

maybe this wil make it clear,
1, he put the gun in our hands.
2, he istigated the fight, and then ducked out of the fray.
3, the 3d speeks for itself. if he was all for it he should have joind the protest.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:39 »
The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

Can you please post a link to a statement from him to support your view?

dont understand?

I would kindly ask you to point me to a link in the forum or somewhere else where he encourages his competition to take down images. Thanks.
I think he/she is saying that by creating the script to take down images quickly and then not using it himself he was encouraging competitors to take down their images for his benefit.  It seems a bit of a stretch as far as conspiracy theories go since there are other reasons to create the script that are much more likely.

yes that is what i was saying. thank you. and i guess you can call it a conspiracy theorie! i call it an opinion.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:32 »
I think the problem is you are making claims you aren't really backing up with anything.  Personal attacks actually, that you have no real evidence for, just a conspiracy theory. 

You have every right to have an opinion and I'm not trying to pick on you, but when you accuse someone of something like that you should probably take into account the level of respect other people here have for the one you are attacking, based on years of Sean participating in this community and being nothing but helpful and honest whether we like it or not. ;)

ok, and definitly yes...i think i said it quite a bit that this is my OPINION! and ask it to be considered, and you guys and girls make you own decisions?!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:28 »
I posted a comment there - it was just an ugly slug-fest of "I hate microstock" and "burn the witch".

"Talk about people unclear on the concept!

Most of these comments are tired old rants about something completely unrelated to Getty's 30-day notice of a contract termination. Any Getty photographer could have been the lucky recipient of this scummy move on Getty's part.

Sean Locke didn't invent microstock and it makes no sense to kitchen sink all your issues with it into comments on this article. Can you not see that it could also be Getty photographers you "approve" who could be next?

The enemy here is Getty Images - direct your ire at them. Don't be so lost in your delight that someone from microstock is getting a raw deal that you lose sight of the bigger picture."


Oh lord!
there is no enemy, lets be real!
getty and istock are a biz and they use you as much a they possibly can-----just like i think sean did!
the thing is yo uneed to use them more then they use you, if u can.

im not happy abt what happened to him and definitly dont delight as you say in his raw deal. i did not realy know sean existed befor this. i might have heard of him here and there?
 
anyway, im no ones fan boy, be it a company or a person.
and i wish you ppl could do the same.
cause
howd that istock fan boy mentality go for everyone?
then it was the sutterstock fan boy mentality (ooh SS if u alow exclusives id join in a heart beat). hows that going for you all. bigstock canisters anyone.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:17 »
this is what im saying, he she said it better then me:

--------

Quote from: bokehgal on Yesterday at 14:48

It appears Sean wrote a script to help a lot of his competition remove themselves from his game.

Sadly for him that act of trying to be clever backfired and blew up in his face and then ended up earning him a microstock Darwin Award instead.

I guess he is a bit shocked by it all because he was just trying to help, right?

There is something to be said for keeping your head down, not stoking the fire, nor pissing off your boss if you still want to keep your job.

Sean wrote a script because that's what he does.  He's written many scripts, many in iStock's favour.  He wrote that script because there was a demand for deleting files in a hurry rather than one by one.  How do you know somebody didn't ask him to write that script?  Or maybe he got frustrated watching people struggle to delete their files so he helped them out.  Deleting files one at a time is a joke, particularly in this instance where leaving files at iStock is a huge risk.

'Pissing off his boss'?  lol Sean is Sean's boss.  iStock was never Sean's boss and I don't believe Sean has sacked himself from his own company.  What's this ridiculous notion that Sean is out of a job?  His contract with his AGENT who sold HIS files that he produced is terminated.  He's not going to fall apart.  His files will be sold elsewhere and he'll probably make more money than before. 

Seriously, go have a lie down and come back when you've thought about what you've just written.  If you really believe that this script had that much of an impact on people's decisions to delete files or to leave iStock, then you might need to lie down and think some more.

People's reaction had nothing to do with a stupid script... it had everything to do with the Google/Getty deal that has the potential to ends people's careers.

well you responded like i was the one writing it! i just agree with it 100%

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 13, 2013, 01:14 »
The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

Can you please post a link to a statement from him to support your view?

dont understand?

are you asking how he manipulated you/me?
or do yo misunderstand me and think the above is a quote?

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