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General Stock Discussion / Re: copy/paste IPTC
« on: November 20, 2017, 20:09 »
Click on the Image tab, choose Information at the top of the drop down list.  Click on IPTC info at the bottom of the box, edit to your hearts content.

What/where is the 'Image tab'?

I finally figured out that you have to use Files/Thumbnails to start browsing.  Then I drill down 9 levels (it always starts at the top) and see the thumbnails I want.  But no Image tab, or any other tabs.  Google has nothing for "Irfanvew image tab".


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General Stock Discussion / Re: copy/paste IPTC
« on: November 20, 2017, 19:04 »
Tried Ifranview, and if it has a way to do this, it's buried so deep I can't find it.  It is a very old and clunky program and does things in weird ways, using odd terminology.  I gave up on it pretty quick.


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General Stock Discussion / copy/paste IPTC
« on: November 20, 2017, 18:28 »
I know this comes up every now and then - but I need an application to copy/paste all the IPTC data from one photo to another.  I used to use Nikon CaptureNX but that's dead and buried.   I've tried a number of applications, and they're either junk, or they don't  have this feature - except for Photo Mechanic, which does it well but has a nosebleed price of $150 (I let the trial expire).

Surely there is something.




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Thinking about the idea that buyers no longer really care about 'quality' - well, maybe they just need some education.  What if a stock site started working with a really good designer, to put up some pages of design examples using stock photos?  The same content, text, layout, but one version with a 'good' photo and another with a 'poor' photo.  Similar subjects, but showing the impact of better composition, lighting, use of DOF, color balance.  Or maybe even a clever and surprising use of photo to make a point,  or a less gag-inducing photo of  apparently 'happy seniors'.   

Before you all jump in and say 'designers already know what they're doing',  think about some of the cringe-worthy stuff you've seen in print or on the web.

The people behind stock agencies presumably know something about photography and design.  Why not use that to sell the product in some more sophisticated ways,  not just a home page showing a bunch of typical stock photos?

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No happy medium can ever exist between this kind of buyer and contributors. Particularly when complicating matters by allowing contributors to make the same images available elsewhere for a fraction of the price. As an agency where's the differentiation? Where is the value proposition for the buyer?  Provide those two elements coupled with a closely vetted collection in terms of quality and that's where I think the real opportunity lies today. nity.

That's what I keep coming back to: to change the game, an agency has to offer a product that's better in some way.  Newer and better quality images, and thoroughly vetted keywording, should make a difference over time.   And exclusivity probably has to be part of it too.   Maybe there's some other way to bridge the currently vast gap between buyers' and producers' expectations, but I'm not seeing it yet. 

I also think that younger people today just aren't as 'into' image quality anymore; they've grown up seeing cell phone photos of everything under the sun.  And they're used to small images on LCD displays, not high quality printed magazines.  I don't know where that leaves us.

So, I have no solutions to offer, just some degree of patience - meaning I've basically given up and have nothing to lose by waiting.
I think if someone can really crack having a search engine that delivers what an individual buyer is looking for on the first screen consistently then they will be onto something but I've not seen anything close. In fact with the exponential increase in images its getting further away.

Search algorithms are really limited by the quality of the data they have to work with.  Big agencies like SS now have 10s of millions of images stuffed with wrong, misleading, fake, repetitious keywords. Until so-called AI can actually understand what's in a photo and how it connects with what's in the rest of the world, there's no way a computer can clean that up.  And the cost of having human reviewers do it would be huge.   Basically, they're stuck; the question is, how can someone else start fresh and seize that opportunity?



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No happy medium can ever exist between this kind of buyer and contributors. Particularly when complicating matters by allowing contributors to make the same images available elsewhere for a fraction of the price. As an agency where's the differentiation? Where is the value proposition for the buyer?  Provide those two elements coupled with a closely vetted collection in terms of quality and that's where I think the real opportunity lies today. nity.

That's what I keep coming back to: to change the game, an agency has to offer a product that's better in some way.  Newer and better quality images, and thoroughly vetted keywording, should make a difference over time.   And exclusivity probably has to be part of it too.   Maybe there's some other way to bridge the currently vast gap between buyers' and producers' expectations, but I'm not seeing it yet. 

I also think that younger people today just aren't as 'into' image quality anymore; they've grown up seeing cell phone photos of everything under the sun.  And they're used to small images on LCD displays, not high quality printed magazines.  I don't know where that leaves us.

So, I have no solutions to offer, just some degree of patience - meaning I've basically given up and have nothing to lose by waiting.

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It's no secret that for most photographers, the fizz went out of microstock long ago.  I closed my accounts at the big sites (I still have a few hundred at GL).   And I totally get the problem:  while buyers have been conditioned to expect extremely low prices, producers have given up because returns got too low.

 Is it just classic oversupply, or a disfunctional market where buyers and producers can't communicate?  Something of both I guess.  And while I see the problem I don't pretend to know the solution. 

Maybe some time has to pass. With many photographers no longer participating, at some point he existing image archives have to start looking dated, creating an opportunity - maybe buyers will gradually realize they have to pay more for newer imagery.

While I'm not in touch with buyers, I have to believe there's some burnout from searching endless pages of poor quality, repetitious images on the big sites - and that only seems to be getting worse.  That's also an opportunity.

Just my 2 cents worth.   


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Adobe Stock / Re: Selling Other's Files
« on: October 29, 2017, 12:44 »
There's no real justification for Adobe not taking action if a third party points out obvious infringement.   They may not be legally required to do anything, but that doesn't make it right to ignore an obviously verifiable report of theft.   They just decline to spend the time and money it would take to clean up their business, because there are no consequences to them in letting this sort of thing continue. 

There's a word for knowingly reselling stolen goods: "fencing".   

Whether this particular report is verifiable or not, I can't say.   


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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."
I used to be involved in doing staff surveys....when one delivered some particularly bad results every theory was pursued except the one that maybe the staff had a point ;-)

As I recall, the typical outcome was that the person who presented the survey ended up with all the action items.   :-)

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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."



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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Did someone say "SIMILAR" ?
« on: October 23, 2017, 14:36 »
Seems to me the important point here is that this stuff can't possibly be coming in through the official inspection process.  Someone is getting it in through a back door.

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Software / Re: No perpetual license for Lightroom 7
« on: October 18, 2017, 20:13 »
"Classic" sounds just a bit patronizing, doesn't it?    Like it's just the thing for all us old fools who can't figure out this "cloud" stuff.  Maybe they'll make all the controls and fonts bigger, to accommodate our failing eyesight.

They might as well have called it "Lightroom for Losers" because that's how they'll treat it going forward.


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Software / Re: No perpetual license for Lightroom 7
« on: October 18, 2017, 16:29 »
LR "Classic" will probably see little new development.  Any big new features will be in the subscription version.   Standalone LR is now a dead end.   I'm increasingly happy I switched to Capture One a couple of years ago.  IMHO, it's much superior.

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I switched from LR to C1 a couple years ago and never looked back.

IMHO, comparisons like the one linked to here don't mean much.  I think you can get pretty much the same result with either software, once you get used to them.  There are a whole bunch of factors in play here - not just curves and sharpening, but 'clarity', 'structure' , shadows/highlights and more.  The defaults for all of these are different, and that's what reviewers focus on.

The big things for me, in making the switch, were C1's comprehensive 'local adjustments', and the fact that LR just doesn't seem to be advancing and will probably end up as subscription-only.



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Microstock News / Re: Is GL Stock still operating?
« on: October 02, 2017, 15:41 »
Thanks Sean, certain areas will look pretty similar, for sure.  There are new functionalities, I will be making an announcement later today most likely, both here and via email to our members.  We are just putting some finishing touches and fixing some bugs.

Regarding our extended licenses, you can use images for resale.  Images can be sold as wall/canvas art, within the terms/restrictions of the license.  I can't speak specifically towards any particular market place, but as long as our terms and other third party market place terms are being adhered to, I wouldn't see any issue with it.

Thanks for the reply.   Some of us who also sell photos as wall art via POD have only recently realized that people are simply getting full-res files with extended licenses and selling prints of them on Etsy and elsewhere.  And obviously their prices can be low.

I'm not going to let this happen, so ll I can do is opt out of 'extended' licenses. Which is unfortunate.   

I just tried to do that on GL, but any attempt to edit my 'profile' gave me a bunch of error messages which I couldn't resolve; for example I get 'City can't be blank', but there's no 'City' field in the form.

City can't be blank
State can't be blank
Zip can't be blank
Country can't be blank
Phone can't be blank
Username should only contain letters, numbers, or -_


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Microstock News / Re: Is GL Stock still operating?
« on: October 02, 2017, 11:46 »
I'm happy to see the site back up.

In line with a recent discussion thread here, I have a question.   Would GL's 'extended' license allow reselling as wall art on Etsy?   

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Hi everyone,

I've been following this conversation and I just wanted to let you all know that I just reported 250 shops to Etsy who sell digital downloads that have prohibited stock imagery in them.

If you would like the list yourself so you can also report them all to Etsy, please ping me and I'd be happy to email that list to you. If enough people report these shops, Etsy takes the listings and/or shops down.

Nice work.  But unless Etsy changes their policies, won't 250 new pirate shops show up to replace the ones taken down today?

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It's a big question, actually.  Society is certainly damaged by the violence and brutality in movies and TV.   We aren't quite ready to face up to that and do anything about it, yet, but movies do at least have to carry ratings in the U.S, although they mean next to nothing.

I live near one of the nation's biggest retail complexes, the Mall of America, and I'm in there frequently, and I see all the ads on the clothing stores.  There's an accelerating trend towards "honest" model shots and inclusion of big people.  It's really becoming a thing.

 

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I think in this case the "Nanny State" is taking action because of health risks to young girls who internalize those unrealistic body images, contributing to anorexia, anxiety and depression, which can have very bad consequences.   One could argue that this is an overreaction, but it's not without purpose.  I'd compare it to warnings on tobacco products.

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This is just the final straw for me.  I've already gotten out of microstock except for Alamy (and GL, which seems to be dead).  If I figure out that Alamy is doing this too, I'll leave them as well.

These days I sell photos on FAA - not often, but when I do, I might make 30 bucks.  If SS sells your photo to one of these Etsy parasites you might get $30 for an EL, and think wow that's great - but it's a one time payment.  You get absolutely nothing for any additional sales on Etsy.  Plus, the Etsy seller can easily undercut your price on FAA for your own photo.

I'm disgusted with microstock agencies, I'm disgusted with Etsy.  They've become slimeballs.   

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The whole EL thing is nonsense because the terms are deliberately vague and there's no enforcement.  100,000 prints  - excuse me, I meant "paper products" -  and no one is bothering to count.   

Basically you give them the money, they give you the file, you do anything you want with it, and if a photographer doesn't like it, he can either jump the DMCA hoops, or pound sand.  The new, corporate, "growth-oriented" Etsy couldn't care less.

It's nice to know that this cr@p is being promoted by IS and SS - because I got out of both a year ago.  I wonder though if Alamy is "safe" in this regard.


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I've just had discussion with a shop owner on Etsy and she claims that Getty agreed with the resale of modified files purchased with Extended Licence. If this is truth, then perhaps Getty is to blame in this case.

What does 'modified' mean? 

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Etsy used to be a unique site selling hand-made items.  Then it become a Big Company in search of Growth and began steadily destroying its identity and becoming just another site trying to sell everything to everybody and not caring about any ethical nonsense.   

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Those sales numbers are hard to believe.  I wonder if they've been inflated by shil buyers.

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