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Here's the English one to Jon Oringer

http://www.tukusheying.com/info/es_t_20121118032405.html

scroll down you'll see it.

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my latest interview to Lee Torrens -- the owner of MicrostockDiaries   :)

as well as the one to Jon Oringer

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Shutterstock.com / Jon's price today: US$ 415 million
« on: October 11, 2012, 23:29 »
56.3% of US$ 738 million

Both name of Getty's CEO and SS CEO are Jonathan, interesting?

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data:

so, the fact is
  • ShutterStock: $100 million in revenue in 2011
  • Getty Images: revenues of about $945 million through the 12 months ended December 2011 (I believe this included iStockPhoto contribution

And according to the figures in microstockdiaries:

iStockphotos Dittmar Frohman presented on the..... Most interestingly were the weekly royalty payout amount now up to $1.9million

Let's say the average royalty percentage is around 30%, and the lowest and highest are 15% and 45%

30%:  $1.9million x 3.3 x 52 = $326 million
15%:  $1.9million x 6.6 x 52 = $652 million
45%:  $1.9million x 2.2 x 52 = $217 million

See, the sales force, or, the sales POWER of iStockPhoto is at least double than ShutterStock.

Correct me if I am wrong, and any insight input is welcomed.

PS. welcome ads in my website (www.tukusheying.com)    ;D

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"Exactly - how do you judge any of this? Most downloads? Most income? Highest profit? Most downloads or income per "team" member? "

This was what my 'seriously' comment was about, as well as 'what difference does it make'.

At IS, last I knew, by dls, it was Yuri, Lise, DNY59 and then me.  You can see my number on my profile.

I think what Yuri mean is "revenue", revenue is a very common and frequently used indicator, think about Fortune 500.

It's interesting when talk about this, people will argue which indicator should be used, but when China is considered into this, someone took it for granted that China is "the "potentially" largest market", the largest one because of population? Why no people here say GDP? Or per income per people? Or purchasing power?

I know someone here has biase view on China, but it's none related to this topic, so if you guys wish, we can talk about China in another thread.

And it's interesting people using English every day don't know the exact meaning of "revenue", several people discussed with me about it recently.

Correct me if I am wrong please, because English is not my native language.

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are you chinese?why dont chinese just pay for buying our files? then there will be more millionaires, lol ;D
dont just selling your stuffs,just imforming your friends or colleagues , never use images for free.lol >:(

Yes, I am a Chinese.

Tell us your citizenship and I'll let you know how much money Getty Images made last year in mainland China.

If you google, you'll probably see images use for free in any country, even with watermark, including developed and developing countries.

I remember clearly in an international conference, a VP from US showed a picture in his slides with a big Dreamstime watermark in the center.

If you really want to sell your stuffs into China market, I can give you an advice free of charge -- shoot more Chinese content.

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Yuri might of thought you meant microstock only.  I think there's several people earning more in the traditional market.  It isn't as easy to get in to but I think the top Getty stock photographers that have been doing stock for decades are probably making more than anyone doing just microstock.  Doesn't Yuri just claim he licenses the most images?  Its not the same as making the most money.

Exactly - how do you judge any of this? Most downloads? Most income? Highest profit? Most downloads or income per "team" member?

For me, my download numbers peaked as an independent in 2008, but my average RPD was something like 65c. As an exclusive my DL numbers are much more modest, but my total income is more than 3 times what it was then, and my average revenue per download is more than 10 times that now. Does that mean I'm now less successful than I was in 2008?

Hello Holgs, where are you now?  I wrote about you in my blog one or two years ago.

You are so much admired here.

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may i know who is the pro photographer in beijing? since all name are known, possible to share it? is it in microstock also?

I saw one of the frequent microstock girl model in asia countries, but I can't really find more things about the photographer, wonder is it the same one?

In my previous interview to Yuri, he said Andres Rodriguez was No.1 stock photographer and now No.2.

I did not doubt it until yesterday I visit a pro photographer in Beijing, China.

Now I know two photographers can earn millions per year, are there more?

anybody know?

I've visited top 3 stock photographer teams in Beijing(Yuri is a team as well, isn't he), they are all in traditional world, while one of them joined microstock via iStockPhoto Agency Collection.

The traditional world is not as transparent as micro, although the trend of micro is going up, the big money still lies in traditional world.

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Lise Gagne is the top earner at IS.

according to the report I got, she's at top but not the toppest, Sean earns more than her, and someone else earns more than Sean.

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Seriously?

Yes, and I remember somebody gave me a detail report of income of iStock exclusive contributors, including you Sean at over half a million in 2010, will you confirm is that figure correct?

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OK, if Andres Rodriguez is at millions level, I know three now.

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In my previous interview to Yuri, he said Andres Rodriguez was No.1 stock photographer and now No.2.

I did not doubt it until yesterday I visit a pro photographer in Beijing, China.

Now I know two photographers can earn millions per year, are there more?

anybody know?

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General Stock Discussion / My interview to Yuri Arcurs
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:41 »
It was made last year end, translated into Chinese

http://www.tukusheying.com/info/es_t_20111201110330.html

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Dreamstime.com / My interview to Dreamstime CEO Serban Enache
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:38 »
It was made last year end, translated into Chinese

http://www.tukusheying.com/info/es_t_20111215100713.html

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Alamy.com / Alamy has sold one image for over $100,000
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:35 »
In my recent interview to Alan Capel, Head of Content of Alamy, one question is
what's highest price a photo has alamy ever sold.

Alan said: We cant show you but we have sold one image for over $100,000.

Does anybody know the photo? Any clue where can I see it? Just for curiosity,
and I won't post it out if you let me know, thank you!

My website is in Chinese, the interview can be seen at
http://www.tukusheying.com/info/es_t_20120406111109.html

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does anyone know how many big event in 2012?

When and Where?

I'm thinking to join one, and considering to follow the news of them all.

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Now I know who is the No.2 of the world, I just did an interview with Yuri, he told me the No.2 is Andres Rodriguez.

This is just a follow up to the question I asked here a few months ago, thank you everybody who was involved, and I hope you agree. 

  ;D

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That would be a tough question to answer in a fair manner as Getty and Corbis generally offer exclusive contracts whereas Alamy does not.  Different images at different agencies.  Additionally, you generally work with an editor at Getty/Corbis where at Alamy - just about anything you upload (as long as it's technically correct) gets accepted.

Same business - different business models.

Thank you Ed, I see useful information in your comments.

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General Photography Discussion / Let's exchange links
« on: October 20, 2011, 05:32 »
Hello,

Anybody interested in exchange links with me?

My website is http://www.tukusheying.com/

I will put your links in http://www.tukusheying.com/free_photo.html, and you decide the place of your website to put my web URL.

Thanks for your attention.

Best

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its revenue is around $400 million this year, I imagine all the rest of iStock competitors summed up may just reach this figure, so iStock take at least 40% of micrstock market.

The figure is from microstockdiary:
iStockphotos Dittmar Frohman presented on the Past, Present and Future of microstock. Despite explaining how he couldnt provide any numbers, a few interesting ones were mentioned. Most interestingly were the weekly royalty payout amount now up to $1.9million,

1.9 x 52 x 4(royalty from 15% - 45%, I used 4 here) = $400million

Market estimation figure is from a owner of stock photo agency.

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Shutterstock.com / Why ShutterStock needs BigStock ?
« on: September 29, 2011, 09:00 »
Now ShutterStock has everything its competitors have, subscription, EL, single image, and on demand.

Then what's the use of BigStock?

Why bought BigStock?

What's the strategy?

I'm sorry but I just don't see the future of BigStock.

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I would say MonkeyBusiness is extremely high up.. perhaps #2 in gross profits.  Net is a total different story and much harder to 'guess'


I believe leaf must have some stats to support his point, then Yuri is No.1 and monkeybusiness is No.2 in terms of revenue.

But according to the feedback in this thread, neither of them have top net profit.

Why No.1 and No.2 enjoy high revenue rather than high net profit?  Is it just because they are reluctant to be exclusive?


Yuri and MonkeyBusiness run their businesses with a number of employees and have what appears to be, considerable expenses. They have more expenses than most microstock photographers and they also have more income.  They aren't alone though, there is a good number of people running their microstock business like this. Someone like Sean on the other hand has no employees and only sometimes hires an assistant for a shoot.

I think you should just come to the Microstock Expo and hear people like Monkey Business, AndresR, CandyBox etc..talk first hand on how they run their business. ;)


Thank you leaf for the reply, although it doesn't answer the exclusivity question.  The fact is photographers with a team will not go exclusivity, right?  Do you know any successful exception?

A successful photographer with a number of employees and high revenue controls more resources than others don't, if they all eventually choose to be non-exclusive with low profit, I will guess there are other factors like safety or freedom under their consideration compare to more money?  No, it's too hard for me to understand   ???

The Expo is surely acctractive but I can't justfy the cost for going there.  I believe there will only be a few Chinese businessman from local stock agency in the Expo, none Chinese photographers at all.

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I would say MonkeyBusiness is extremely high up.. perhaps #2 in gross profits.  Net is a total different story and much harder to 'guess'


I believe leaf must have some stats to support his point, then Yuri is No.1 and monkeybusiness is No.2 in terms of revenue.

But according to the feedback in this thread, neither of them have top net profit.

Why No.1 and No.2 enjoy high revenue rather than high net profit?  Is it just because they are reluctant to be exclusive?

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The real competition is net profit and not total d/l's, in that case I wouln't be suprised if Sean is higher up.
Yeah, some of the top hitters are not individual photographers but teams, with all the ensuing expense and time-consuming paperwork that involves.
Sean is a Lone Wolf; so, I believe, is Lise.

interesting to know, now I have to ask the question clearly and specificly
  • in terms of revenue, Yuri is No.1, don't know who's next.
  • in terms of profit, Lise is No.1, Yuri will not even be considered No.2, correct?

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Just curious about this, anyone know the answer?

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