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Messages - Old Hippy

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i just wanted to see if i could sell on micros the images i'm ashamed to sell on macros.


p.s.
@magnum :

fine, but for how long will they sell as long as they add 1000s of pics every day in their database and now they even allow free photo section for promotion, subscription, flat-fees, and who knows what more tomorrow  ?

the only ones making money with micros are the owner of the micro companies.

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exactly, that's why i'm not afraid of micros, at least for now :

what happens if one day micros decide to sell editorial as well ?

i'm not gonna sell my images for 0.25$ but there certainly are 100s of amateurs willing to do it,
even just for fun as they do it already on sites like Flickr.


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micros' QC is a good indicator of the whole rip-off :

if their concept is selling junk for few cents there's no reason to raise the quality bar.
micros were created for third rate images, that's their place and that's the place they should stick.

by opposite raising the bar forces photographer to submit good pictures and therefore making micros in direct competition with macrostocks.

the problem here is not the micros but the photogs willing to sell their picture for peanuts.

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privacy reasons.

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they were sharp enough to be sold on macros and that's all that matters in the real world.

micropayments : it's the same logic of micropayments and black hat sites as well... but it's still scratching the bottom of the barrel.

for editorial images, i don't know anybody making the same with micros.

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i wouldnt trust anonymous people find on the net to manage my pictures.

who's gonna tell you they dont resell your images elsewhere or that they dont sell crops, b&w, etc ?

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ridicolous.

as long as your images are worth 0.25 $ each, what else did you guys expected ?

they steal exactly because they know no one in his mind would sue them for a quarter
dollar damage.

on the other side, if you were covered by macro agencies like Getty or Corbis
we're talking of pictures easily sold for 500$ each.

last year Getty sued hundreds of guys using un-licenced Getty images and always won,
we're talking of fines around 5000$ per image.

with micros you're simply screwed, you've no chance whatsover that iStock starts
suing somebody for micro images worth less than a dollar.

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all you need is a camera to make pictures "good enough" to be sold.

anything else is pure feticism.

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i only sell RM exactly because my pictures are worth at least 20-30$ each, i would never waste time keywording and upoading to get few cents in return and being forced to licence my images as RF (!!).

i understand for many amateurs micros are way better than giving away their pictures for free on Flickr but if we talk about business it's a bad bad bad idea.

on the other side, i wouldn't be so sure that micros are "ruining" the market :
i shoot editorial travel photography and my sales are on the rise.

micros are probably eroding market from still-life, cut-out, vectors, patterns, and other low forms
of photography but i've still to see travel pics credited to iStock o Fotolia on the major travel magazines.


as a rule of thumb, micros will erode the market for pictures that are easy to take but don't expect much more : buyers used to buy from macros will laugh at the choice of images they would find on iStock & friends.

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selling images on your site only works for famous photographers with kickass portfolios.

and even in this case, famous photogs are usually already represented by an agency.

you can try selling your prints, your calendars, even your postcards and t-shirts but don't expect much in return.

and anyway, you'll waste more time marketing your site than actually making pictures.

there's a good reason after all if the Pros are using agencies.
to each his own.

the very reason to use micros and macros are to get the foot in the marketplace and having it
100% automated.


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i'm afraid the very ones who need a reality checks are the microtards excited to give away their photos for 0.25$ each.

there's obviously a huge market for cheap images but at the very least the price should be a minimum of 5-10$ per picture.

it's just insane to crank up 1000s of pics on micros and then complain you lost money and time.

on top of this, the requirement to pass istock and others QC is just ridicolous, they even rejected some pictures i sold more than once on macros !

now, i can understand micros are not the right place for editorial images but my pictures were razor sharp and technically more than OK, yet they said "lack of focus" and yadda yadda.




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General Stock Discussion / Re: Scammers love Sub Sites
« on: May 26, 2009, 11:39 »
if that matters i heard rumors about people buying hi-res pics from micros for ffew $$, resizing them, and trying to sell them on Alamy for 50-100$ each.

problem is, Alamy is mostly editorial stuff, the crap on sale on micros just doesn't sell there.


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