i'm heading for bme on is but it's pretty slow everywhere else, but not wme. this is actually my first june...

it's either feast or famine at 123 each month. not much in terms of downloads but when there is one, it could be an enhanced license for $21 or more or $5 for a extra large size. they may reject a lot of photos lately, but generally they'll also accept the ones that no one else wants. but, after almost a year, they still average out at around 8%.

$5000 or $50.    Wich one is it?      I could always try with a high amount and lose it, and I got the same as when I started.  If I go for a low amount It�s the same.  The difference is, If they go for it and I get 5000 I�d laugh all the way to the bank. If they go for 50 I�d say yeeeeeh.

I will suggest something in between and see what they say. I can also offer a customized version since this is a 3d render.
That�s probably the safest version and no copyright hassle  

 I�ll keep you updated / Thanks all

nice dilemma!

i'd say if they're istock shoppers, they might go into sticker shock with $5000 and probably expected something on the line of $50. however, since you're doing this privately, you can always justify a higher price with the need to draw up a separate contract. at the same time you can place a lot of restrictions on this logo usage, ie. a time limit with renewal royalty fees, etc. however, if it's an exclusive sale, then sure go for the higher #.

The Zoonar-RM-Licence is a tlittle different to other agencys. You can enable RF, but you can`t disable RM. Many Photographers are astonished about that first.

We don`t offer any exklusiv RM-Licences or stoppages of photo sellings for a time. That`s why our RM Licence is NEVER be in conflict with other RF-Licences at zoonar or anywhere else. So you can sell all RF-Photos at Zoonar with RM too without having problems with other photo agencys. Our RM only means "one using". Nothing more.

But you should not enable RF at Zoonar (or somewhere else) if you the have same Photos at RM-Licence in other picture agencys. Because most agencys offer exclusiv usings with RM-Licenses and a RF-Licence can never be used exclusive...

thanks for explaining your rf/rm differentiation. it is astonishing that you can have both on the same photo at zonar.

so, you don't mind if a photo is selling rf elsewhere (like most microstock) and resell it at zonar as rm? since you can't disable the rm license, can you sell the photo as both rf and rm at zonar? this is a little confusing to me.

won't zonar's rm buyers be a little upset that they are paying rm prices and no exclusivity for rf pictures?

Hi! I am new to the forum and started on Microstock 3 months ago. I am now up to a point where  with with 80 files on Shutterstock I earn 80 dollars a month, and with 30 at Istock I earn 30 dollars a month. Before taxes etc.

I want to increase my efforts and in the next 12 months make it a sort of minimum UK wage (�1000 a month)

hi anc,

it seems that you're rpi (return per image) is over $1 a month across two agencies. i think those are extremely encouraging stats for your port. basically, if you increase your port to a thousand, maintaining the same rpi, you should be able to achieve what you want.

to be really honest, i'm not sure it's in our best interest to reject keywords by association. those keywords are definitely associated with the image without being literally it.

for example, i just had a sale on dreamstime where the buyer searched for "santa barbara". guess what? it's an image of a pair of very tall palm trees i took in santa barbara. obviously palm trees can be representative of santa barbara, just as beach is to hawaii.

so, anything to do with the movie industry can be associated with a cinema marquee. i just feel it's so limiting the way it currently is and the buyer obviously agrees.

other agencies encourage a goodly # of keywording. ie, you can't upload without at least 10 keywords at dt. veer offers even more keyword ideas for the ones you already have. i think it's really common sense vs. spamming and we both know which one it is.

i appreciate your trying to help but there were no other rejection reasons other than for keywording. it's a photo of a movie marquee with the headliner, 'love, love, love' and they rejected these following keywords:

{[ Film Industry, Movie (Entertainment Event), Movie Theater (Entertainment Building), Movie (Entertainment Event), show, Romance]}

if this is the case, then they've really gone too far. why should i explain everything in the description when they won't allow it in keywords?

it's double arrrrrgh!

i do have one photo that was rejected elsewhere but accepted by 123 from back when i started. it sells well enough that i try to resubmit them elsewhere again.

another idea is to get the 7d and to sell it later for something better. i've never had any problems selling my gear that is around one years old. ie my nikon d90 went within a day of its listing online so i could purchase the d700.

my feelings is that they either like the pictures or they don't. i had three very similar cherry blossom photos all accepted. i was just going to let them choose the one they preferred but much to my surprise, they didn't pull the 'similars' card here.

here is the problem with the keywording limitations and the disambiguation process at is.

for a photo with a chocolate colored labrador (dog), you can't use the word chocolate because it's not considered a color and it's not a sweet. however i just got a maximum credit sale at dreamstime where the buyer searched specifically after 'chocolate labrador'. for people who know labradors, 'brown' just ain't gonna cut it.

these are the frustrations one face with is every time you upload and it's getting old.

I always considered the year end payout an exceptionally fair policy that made Veer stand out from its competitors. To suddenly cancel it and drop a bombshell like that as if it was just a minor adjustment certainly puts Veer back in line with some of its competitors.

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