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David Holz, midjourney CEO, said less than an hour ago that he doesn't like midjourney-generated images being put up for sale through stock agencies. He said that he is seriously considering banning the sale of midjourney-generated images through stock agencies.

Where?

Yesterday in a town hall meeting he organizes every Wednesday in discord from 12 noon to 4 pm. Pacific time
Very interesting meetings with David Holz, they also talked about the new /blend mode, with results almost of photography quality
Everyone can now use the /blend mode, it is amazing

This person is talking garbage.
First he built a tool which disrupted the market and many people lost their job.

And now he is afraid that with stock agencies the market is getting disrupted.

He said it in January 25th, 2023. I did not invented. In "office hours" town hall meeting David Holz said several times that he does not like mid journey images in stock portals and he is seriously considering to ban the sale of Midjourney generated content in stock photo web sites. I AM NOT LYING. He said it in front of more than 1000 mid journey members.


I am not pointing you. I am mentioning David Holz as an Idiot.
He is talking rubbish.
It funny to see that the AI makers are now afraid that with the use of AI the market is dirupting. As if they did a very generous job by inventing this.

I have people in my network who got fired by companies as their job is done by AI now. They are undergoing depression as their skills are taken over by AI.
I am not mentioning AI in images as particular in above case.

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David Holz, midjourney CEO, said less than an hour ago that he doesn't like midjourney-generated images being put up for sale through stock agencies. He said that he is seriously considering banning the sale of midjourney-generated images through stock agencies.

Where?
Yesterday in a town hall meeting he organizes every Wednesday in discord from 12 noon to 4 pm. Pacific time
Very interesting meetings with David Holz, they also talked about the new /blend mode, with results almost of photography quality
Everyone can now use the /blend mode, it is amazing

This person is talking garbage.
First he built a tool which disrupted the market and many people lost their job.

And now he is afraid that with stock agencies the market is getting disrupted.

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David Holz, midjourney CEO, said less than an hour ago that he doesn't like midjourney-generated images being put up for sale through stock agencies. He said that he is seriously considering banning the sale of midjourney-generated images through stock agencies.

Where?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: January 08, 2023, 23:52 »
Very poor performance. I am at 1/5 of my earning. Those greedy people have filled their pockets and my one of best performing website lost.

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80% of my Wirestock earnings came from Adobe. Earnings are completely decreased after Wirestock's portfolio went offline.

As I noticed its offline from last 4 weeks, I don't know what Wirestock is doing all these days to bring it back Online.

I am not in favor of wirestock, upload it yourself and earn without paying third party commission.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: December 30, 2022, 02:02 »
Shutterstock needs to improve in accepting photos

Look at this
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/oki+septiani

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Alamy.com / Re: your biggest sale on Alamy? and when was it?
« on: December 29, 2022, 07:32 »
Happy that I quitted them years back. Earning $0.01 for my hard work will not even buy a day coffee.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: December 17, 2022, 08:05 »
it's a zero for me :(

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: December 15, 2022, 10:28 »
Where is this option?

It's in your earning summery, but because whoever does the contributor design sucks at his job, you can't see it unless you scroll very far to the right.
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings

Can you share screenshot?
I cannot find it.



Got it, thanks
This so bad UI

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: December 15, 2022, 07:04 »
Where is this option?

It's in your earning summery, but because whoever does the contributor design sucks at his job, you can't see it unless you scroll very far to the right.
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings

Can you share screenshot?
I cannot find it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: December 14, 2022, 20:29 »
Where is this option?

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I am not sure but should we be happy or sad?
With AI content being accepted, it has opened doors for maximum non-qualified people to upload the assets.

Where are we artist now?

if their work is accepted, how are they non-qualified?  what makes you an 'artist' and not them?

early photograpy was rejected by 'real artists'

it's evolution in action

I think you are missing the point. There is difference between create and generate.

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Hi again, moments ago, a blog article was published with more detailed information on this important announcement. You can read it here: https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2022/12/05/amplifying-human-creativity-adobe-stock-defines-new-guidelines-content-generative-ai
 
Let me know if you have any questions.

-Mat Hayward

I am not sure but should we be happy or sad?
With AI content being accepted, it has opened doors for maximum non-qualified people to upload the assets.

Where are we artist now?

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Doesn't matter, there are many portfolios smoothly submitting AI content. There is no way for agencies to track whether the content is AI or not. And even AI cannot tell difference between digitally created and digitally generated images.

That's a fact, but at least there are some that are not allowing the flood.


No allowing on their terms sheet, but people are clever and are bypassing the same rule.
But I agree, the companies wants to restrict the same.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence killing the whole industry = Maybe Not Yet?

SSTK:
Why was my content rejected as Non-Licensable Content?

Content cannot be licensed due to legal restrictions

If your content was rejected as Non-Licensable Content, it is because we cannot license this content in our collection due to legal compliance restrictions. This type of restricted content cannot be published for either commercial or editorial use therefore it is considered non-licensable.
 
Restrictions could include, but are not limited to, the following subjects:
...
    Appears to have been created with AI-generative technology

Why cant I claim copyright to AI-generated content if I am the one who produced the query that generated the synthetic content?
 
Because AI content generation models leverage the IP of many artists and their content, AI-generated content ownership cannot be assigned to an individual. Per our Contributor Terms of Service (Sections 13d and 13f), contributors must have proven IP ownership of all content that is submitted. As such, AI-generated content should not be submitted to Shutterstock.


Getty / iStock:

Getty Images does not accept files created using AI generative models. There are open questions with respect to the copyright of outputs from these models and there are unaddressed rights issues with respect to the underlying imagery and metadata used to train these models. Please see https://contributors.gettyimages.com/article/9685 for more information.

AI Generated Content
Wednesday September 21, 2022
Effectively immediately, Getty Images will cease to accept all submissions created using AI generative models (e.g., Stable Diffusion, Dall-E 2, MidJourney, etc.) and prior submissions utilizing such models will be removed.



Doesn't matter, there are many portfolios smoothly submitting AI content. There is no way for agencies to track whether the content is AI or not. And even AI cannot tell difference between digitally created and digitally generated images.

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So it all started now.

https://pixelvibe.com/

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Shutterstock.com / Re: What a cool SS, how well he sells
« on: November 22, 2022, 01:38 »
On a roll...

Why not me  :(
But congrats to you.  :)

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AI images are just ugly

use a good prompt and the ugly will become beautiful.

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Published today in a pro-Dalle-E online news article
Quote

Bad news for stock photo businesses
If youre a stock photo business, DALL-E 2 might be your worst enemy. Stock photos already have a reputation as cheesy and inauthentic, but have been a necessary evil for content creators. That changes the moment DALL-E 2 becomes available for commercial use.

What justification would there be to pay for a stock photo license in a world where DALL-E 2 can create any image you want?

DALL-E is available now for commercial use. All those illustrations and creations, are allowed to be licensed. What's going to be interesting in the future is, right for images that use portions of people or protected property, designs or specifics. Open AI Users get full usage rights to commercialise the images they create with DALL-E, including the right to reprint, sell and merchandise,

What is Fair use? I hope that sometime in the near future the courts will decide.

There are real concerns with respect to the copyright of outputs from these models and unaddressed rights issues with respect to the imagery, the image metadata and those individuals contained within the imagery, Getty Images CEO Craig Peters   https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/21/23364696/getty-images-ai-ban-generated-artwork-illustration-copyright#:~:text=The%20creators%20of%20AI%20image%20generators%20say%20the,sites%2C%20and%20stock%20photo%20sites%20like%20Getty%20Images.

Read this article which is looking at both sides. I see people on both sides of this extremely confident in their positions, but the reality is nobody knows,   https://www.theverge.com/23444685/generative-ai-copyright-infringement-legal-fair-use-training-data

What's interesting is that, lets say I create an image, using AI from one of the online services. If I don't have enough creative input and, the image is not created by a human's work, then it's not going to be protected. In the article they use Cat by Van Gogh as an example of what couldn't be protected. In the US, there is no copyright protection for works generated solely by a machine. However, it seems that copyright may be possible in cases where the creator can prove there was substantial human input.

What is substantial human input? What is a derivative, of substantial new design to change the image "enough" to make it a new work. Very subjective questions.

This is why I posted the Warhol case which is in progress now, that's examining what is fair use. They are both related.

None of this has to do with what's right or fair for artists, creatives or our interests, it's all about the legal side and could someone get sued for using something that AI created by scraping the web or using copyrighted images to train the AI?

With many players coming into AI, the companies are now shifting their licenses to commercial.
This is dangerous and I don't see good future of image industry.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe profits more than double in latest quarter
« on: November 15, 2022, 04:30 »
I am around 200th for the week with around 1000dls (don't want to be more specific or discuss portfolio size)

May I know, how do you see the rank?

Dashboard - Timeframe dropdown - This week (or lifetime).

Wow, it always showed this month by default which displays no rank.
Thanks for the information.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe profits more than double in latest quarter
« on: November 14, 2022, 20:32 »
I am around 200th for the week with around 1000dls (don't want to be more specific or discuss portfolio size)

May I know, how do you see the rank?

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AI is also bad news for agencies, eventually stock image users will be able to download cheap versions of AI software and get the images they want without paying subscriptions. In the medium term, AI will not only kill the contributors but also the agencies
It will not kill and will not even create competition. I dealt with one program that converts HD to 4k and removes any noise from the video, but it needs a very powerful PC to work, and even on a powerful PC it takes a lot of time. As a result, the cost of a PC and electricity will block the profit.

One can easily rent a cloud GPU at very cheap price.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: What a cool SS, how well he sells
« on: November 10, 2022, 00:53 »
Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!

What??? ... WOW this is huge...

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy search giving zero result
« on: November 08, 2022, 22:37 »
Hi, Is Alamy down? I am doing general search on any topics and getting zero results.
I had the same last week, and it seemed my defaults had been set, and not by me, to only show the 'Vital', 'Uncut' and 'Ultimate' collections and not any of the rest. I had to change my defaults to see everything.
Alternatively:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/16149-another-crazy-reason-to-use-editorial-use-only

works fine now.

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