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Image Sleuth / Weird image (use) - ideas?
« on: November 28, 2011, 03:16 »
A weird thing happened when I was reading the online version of one of the (more popular) Belgian newspapers in Dutch "Het Laatste Nieuws". In the "bizarre news" section, there was a headline about a man watching child porn on a laptop in an airplane. It was accompanied by a photo right under the headline. You didn't even have to open the article : the photo was already at the summary news. The photo is of an elderly gentleman, clearly not of stock quality, like taken candidly from another seat. The full article is here. I saved a screen shot in case the image should disappear.

Translation: Man watching child porn on laptop in airplane.

There is no copyright mentioned near the image so one could think this was the man. If stock, in my book this would be clearly slanderous and degrading use. Imagine the model (or even the person taken candidly and sold as editorial) saw this title and his image, wouldn't he have grounds to sue for damages after being recognized by his employer, employees, business associates or family?

Being curious where this image was sold, I opened ImageExchange and it was for sale on Getty and Media Bakery. Thought it was quite surprising since the white balance is far off and the framing is very-snapshot like.
On Getty, the image wasn't available any more. On Media Bakery too but I found an image that definitely looks like the same man and plane here, for sale on Media Bakery.

The image was, according to Google images, also in use (cropped) on a site about deep vein thrombosis on longer flights, here, and credited to David De Lossy/Valueline/Getty Images.

My question is whether this kind of embarrassing use is permitted on Getty (Media Bakery?) and the question is for those on this forum that are contributors on Getty.

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Off Topic / Re: Don't you just love customers?
« on: November 27, 2011, 18:29 »
Not a client, but a former colleague's brother is an assignment phographer and got into a heated email exchange with someone who was furious because his photos on his website had a watermark which was 'too difficult to remove'.
Once on a Philippine travel forum/sales site, I found an image of mine of the interior of one of their famous cathedrals (as usual, a kitsch barn with a plywood roof over it but it was full of flowers for a wedding) with a fat iStock watermark over it. The comment was that these kind of watermarks should be forbidden by law. I managed to get on that site and commented he could just buy the image at iStock with no watermark and then hell broke loose, about my colonial mentality stealing their cathedrals and more racist stuff I can't repeat. After a while the comment section was closed and my IP was banned. The picture was still there after a year and their travel "deals" were still 3x the normal price. ;D

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: got my site going
« on: November 27, 2011, 18:06 »
I though from what I read originally that the basic difference between pro and basic accounts was a downgrade to 10gb allowance, 2 price profiles instead of unlimited and some other minor things which did not concern me.  I figure that 10gb and 2 price profiles were sufficient for me. However, what was revealed is that in addition to the above mention, the basic profile does not allow to keep my url denispepin.com as it would revert to denispepin.photodeck.com, I would get only one price profile and most importantly, image buyers would not be able to download automatically and directly from my site meaning that human intervention would be needed. To me this is no longer an amazing deal.

Thanks for that info, it's worse than I thought. So the lite plan is just a teaser to lure you in the expensive plan. I read their offer carefully at http://www.photodeck.com/features/ but it shows 2 price profiles. You always have to dig deeper to find the catches. So the 2 profiles are a lie. Fine.
The URL at their site makes the lite offer useless: you will lose all your external links and Google images traffic if they go out of business or when you find out that the 360$/year "deal" is no match for Photoshelter at all.
Their hosting offers are a joke, especially in the EU. For their price of 2.5 Gb extra, you can get decent full hosting in the EU. My current hosting in the US is 3$/month, unlimited domains.
I was interested in their SEO manual but you need to sign up with Zuckerman's monster Facebook, so no thanks. Photoshelter has excellent SEO and design manuals and they just need your email.
When Photodeck came online here in their early stage, I thought already there was something fishy about it. The other guys (forgot the name) started free too, then started to charge, then went out of business. Once bitten...

Why not just take proper hosting and buy a proven framework like Ktools or CMSaccount for a 1-time fee? You can change hosting as you wish and the links are permanent since they are towards your own domain.

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 27, 2011, 15:43 »
DEC doesn't make monitors anyways. They just put their brand plate on Samsung (or other) monitors. The equivalent Samsung 27" LPS has a wider viewing angle for almost half the price. That's why it's probably "flee market" stuff.

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Hi David,  Can you tell me if you plan to add channels for StockFresh and Photodune?
Het can't do that yet for PD since you have to feed them different batches composed out of images of the same model(s), then send the release to a different FTP folder. He'll have to wait till PD has a release library and you can attach releases online as part of the submit process.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istockphoto Down For Maintenance or Hacked?
« on: November 27, 2011, 15:17 »
Why are these amateurs still in business?
Is this a rhetorical question? (ask Jay!  8))

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If you want to store your images in an online backup, and possibly get some occasional sales, why don't you try Most Photos. This stock site lets you download the full res copies of your own images if required, and they do have occasional sales. Upload is pretty easy as well.
This thread was about self-hosting, not about agencies.

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Envato / Re: PhotoDune Non-ex Rate Increase from 25% to 33%
« on: November 26, 2011, 18:40 »
This mentality of praising agencies who know how to charm and be polite, but at the same time still want to take a massive chunk of the pie from each and every sale
On the other hand, read Karimala (amongst others) and how little she/they made with her/their own site. How many of the Ktoolers got back their initial investment in kTools? How is Dan's Warmpictures doing?

A shy voice (or even 10,20) somewhere in a large filled sports stadium won't be heard. It takes a lot of muscle ($) to market a site and IT specialists to maintain it and assure the smooth buyer's experience. It takes at least one manager with a very clear mind. It also takes at least one person for customer care and some customers can be high-maintenance. Those kind of people need to be kept on board with a decent and competitive salary that has to be put on the table, month after month. I think we underestimate the cost to keep a high-volume site up and running.

Everybody's darling, Dreamstime, had to go back from 50 to 30%. They also suggested that the level system could be unsustainable for subs. In that context, 33% is a bearable offer if Envato indeed can convince its (non-micro minded) customer base to buy stock at PD. That's indeed their only asset for the contributor, new customers, but will Envato's success in other graphic areas translate into fast raising sales in their microstock Walmart? Because if not, the offer is worse than Dreamstime's with their level system. In other words, the contributor total revenue at PD should reflect after a while that they can deliver.
And of course, work needs to be done on their over-emphasis of sizes and the ridiculous low price of EL's.

It will be a nice experience to observe how total beginners like iRockstock (and Stockfresh) will be doing the coming year compared to PD with its head start in their fight against players in a market that has already been taken.

Just twocents etc...

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 26, 2011, 12:18 »
So it might be worth to stretch your budget if you are going to give it an intensive use.
I worked all my life on crap screens up to 18 hrs per day, starting with a flickering green DEC VT240, later B&W monitors with 30fps less than VGA. My eyes are still fine : I don't need reading glasses and I can spot a nice woman 1km ahead. What else do you need?  ;)

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 26, 2011, 12:11 »
What if I (the OP) want to make prints, or submit to other markets?
The printers I worked with (for printing model's SED cards) knew their job quite well. For instance, they changed the color space totally and I couldn't see any difference between my shots on paper and those of other portfolio shooters (for RM) that used a P&S.
It's all just overkill (my devalued 0.02 euro).
Just my 2 cents.   :P
That's what they'll pay us soon for microstock so why spoil them with 6-700 euro monitors? If you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys in the end. A cheap/decent monitor is good enough. Compared to monitors and flatscreens of 10-7 years ago, the recent ones are brilliant.

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 26, 2011, 10:34 »
Question . . .  which Samsung are you using.       That question also goes for you, Mr. A.T. Nun.  Come on boys, a little information please.

Samsung 24" S24A350H LED, now 190 euro (since the collapse of the euro) but begin of August 170 euro, and it was a bargain then.

The perfectionists don't want a monitor like that. They want top stuff with color calibration etc, worth at least 700 euro in total. I have seen a setup like that at work and I have to admit the colors looked stunning... on his monitor.
Upload the images on a stock site and all the stunningness is gone. Why? Perhaps the stock agencies change the color profiles. Those shots look even dull on the thumbs. A buyer doesn't buy judging the full hires result, he buys on the thumbs.

I have worked on Barco's about 20 years ago as they were used in the tapestry and fabrics production industry by fashion and fabric designers. The price then was 25K euro and up (included equipment for constant calibration). We ourselves needed accurate colors for color vision research.

So top monitors are fine for those kind of applications where colors needs to be exact objectively. For stock, it doesn't matter that much (that's why I said "good enough"). The end product will be viewed on normal monitors anyways so who cares. If it's about print, the printer will adapt your colors since the same color looks different (depending on the process, dyes etc..) and the printer knows his processes best.

What matters IMHO is exact dynamic range so you can recognize details in shadows and highlights. Flatscreens have a much higher dynamic range as to luminance than CRT monitors and you will see the dreaded banding easier, especially with perfect (non-noisy) gradients as in illustrations. A simple flatscreen therefore is much better than the most expensive CRT nowadays. There are fine test images online to check your LCD visually as to flooding highlights and blacks = contrast/luminance/clipping.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/monitor_calibration.htm
http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/MONCAL/CALIBRATE.HTM

What also matters is to include the color profile into your jpg's and chose the best (sRGB). Your images can look pretty dull when you miss this. When saving jpg's in photoshop, dont't forget to check the "include color profile" box. When converting raw to tiff (I use Canon's DPP) always include the color profile and chose the best (sRGB).

If you take these precautions, your images will look fine amongst others on a search page and you can just do with a standard good monitor.

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Envato / Re: Photodune, Thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2011, 02:44 »
My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Contributor Ranking Lists
« on: November 26, 2011, 01:36 »
Have you tried sorting the DT list by downloads/image. Very strange results at the top of the list!
Those are from contributors with high historic sales but that de-activated their port after a while and left (by accident?) some online.

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Envato / Re: PhotoDune Non-ex Rate Increase from 25% to 33%
« on: November 26, 2011, 01:31 »
@y'all They increased their commission from 25% to 33%, because they are nice, because they are good people and they listen? Because they didn't want to be constantly vilified as they were, because to compete they wanted all contributors to be on board which they weren't getting, hence they offered a carrot.
Shouldn't we organize a Teddybear Award for the cuddliest site around?
By the way, their upload is flawless, no d/c's, IPTC metadata imported in the right fields. My wifi antenna on the roof is glowing red-hot at the moment.

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New Sites - General / Re: Photokore
« on: November 26, 2011, 01:08 »
I get the distinct feeling that very non nun-like, "we" are very stingy in giving out any reference to any site which may cause extra competition.  ;)
Is that so?  :P (you're right).

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New Sites - General / Re: Photokore
« on: November 26, 2011, 01:03 »
Photokore was only founded in 2010. I think it is to early to say that they will or will not make it. I like the concept that their focus is on the Asian market. AttilaTheNun, why do you think they won't make it?
I had a virtual chat with them and with Lee Torrens months ago. This is rather private but I will send you a PM. Their only USP for the moment is the languages since the translations on the big micros are mostly crap. China has been taken by FT's local partners and as far as I can judge, the language on those local sites is very OK and the design is adapted to the Chinese taste (much more busy, much more condensed).

Apart from that, Korea and Japan are the only countries with deep pockets plus their English sucks. So a well translated site could be a benefit but if that's their only USP, they are very vulnerable.

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Alamy.com / Re: 1st sale in Alamy
« on: November 26, 2011, 00:52 »
Thanks everybody for the valuable info. I have an RF account at Alamy but since that content is over the micros, I abandoned it. I felt it not to be fair to buyers to have such diverging price points for the same shots.

RM is another cup of tea. I had a look at the port of Jeff Greenberg and most looks like snapshots, anyways not the kind of imagery that would be accepted in micro, not even as editorial. You can very well see he doesn't put much time in post-processing, rather upload straight from cam to the site. He seems to walk around and snap whatever moves. It seems to sell too. Good to know.  ;)

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Don't forget to have a look at CMSaccount. They are mostly under the radar here but they have a brilliant framework that allows video. It's constantly being developed (unlike Ktools that seems to be stuck) by a Russian team and they recently integrated cloud/S3 storage.

Especially your hoster won't like large video files to be up or downloaded. Hostgator for instance forbids it and most hosters sets very narrow limits on up/download file size, one other instance where the "unlimited" in their ads is quite limited. They can force you in a plan well over 100$/month to overcome this limit. Having your content in the cloud/S3/Amazon makes you only pay for what you need in a flexible way while you can stick with the cheapest plan on your hoster.

To license CMSaccount you only need to pay an upfront fee of 200$ for the code (full unlimited version) and that's it. No recurrent costs like on Smug, Photoshelter, Photodeck. You can sell one images or a thousand, they don't care. You'll have free installation and lifelong upgrades.

http://cmsaccount.com/ - this is not a referral link and I'm not connected with them

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: got my site going
« on: November 25, 2011, 23:53 »
Did you take the 10$/month (light) plan on Photodeck or the 30$/month (pro) plan? 360$ per year looks more expensive than Photoshelter but they don't take a share on the sales. Also, the 10$/month plan just comes with 10GB and that's a bit limited for hires Canon 5D shots at jpg 12.

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Alamy.com / Re: 1st sale in Alamy
« on: November 25, 2011, 22:54 »
I have to be honest...and I know I'll stir the pot with this comment, but editorial images do not belong on the micros.
I recently came to that conclusion too. I shot a couple of tribal fiestas in Asia this year with many groups in different colorful ethnic outfits and set-ups each time. On Dreamstime, they don't sell at all and the last time I was hit by the "similars" monster after uploading just 4 images, when in fact the series told a story (I didn't process the full shoot of 300 pictures yet since DT would reject them as "similars"). Some very generic editorial sells very well though (I have a level 5 editorial), which means you can put a striking generic micro-ish shot on micro but send the rest to RM and relax.

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New Sites - General / Re: Photokore
« on: November 25, 2011, 11:34 »
This got to be one of the fastest results I ever had to place a referral link. I started three days ago to place this referral link. Now I have 10 referral so far, and one person already has a sale.
I'm there since May but I don't spread my referral links around in this forum. I even helped them out on some stuff. Oh boy!  :'(
(they won't make it)

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 25, 2011, 11:29 »
For microstock: anything under 200 euro, like Samsung. My  washing machine is Samsung and my microwave too. Good stuff. Good enough at least for microstock that pays us 0.25$ or 15%. If you are in the tapestry, printing or fabric design business, you'll need something better with calibration. My best selling microstock was done on a 14" laptop in a Beijing hotel room and anything else would be overkill for microstock. Micro prices, micro equipment.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Best agency for UK Contributors
« on: November 25, 2011, 11:19 »
Alamy.

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Envato / Re: Black paw:)
« on: November 25, 2011, 06:12 »
bad CSS?  There's no CSS.
That's what I meant. I admired the site from the start, even wanted to write a front last summer. It's certainly a hit and the scraping is very well done (It was actually a compliment).

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Computer Hardware / Re: Advice on monitors requested
« on: November 25, 2011, 06:07 »
Samsung (170 euro, 140 pounds, 24" - I got 2)

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