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Quote from: somethingpretentious on May 03, 2012, 00:44

For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

they don�t give us that information, only totals

Just to be clear, this means that they don't give information about how many and which of your photos have downloaded?? Only a dollar amount at the end of the month?

Hey,

Allow me to reiterate, there are no hidden fees. On the pricing and fee page it is listed during the card application process and afterwards can be viewed anytime by logging into "My Account" and viewing it there.

Allow me to reiterate: There are no hidden fees by your definition. There are however hidden fees by my definition.

Quote from: somethingpretentious on April 03, 2012, 21:58

Please tell that we are getting all this wrong...

Payoneer does not have any hidden fees. Our entire list of pricing and fees is fully explained and available at any time. If you have any specific questions I am happy to answer them.

Let me be clear, you are not being charged 6% for currency conversion. The issue here seems to be with MasterCard's official rates which are used by millions of people in over 210 countries worldwide.

MasterCard's rates are used for all debit/credit MasterCard cards worldwide. When compared to other leading international on-line payment solutions, you will see that these rates are highly competitive and are considered to be among the best rates available on the market.

   

Its not at all clear that the 3% you charge is on top of Mastercards currency exchange rate. Its pretty darn well hidden...As pointed out all the consumer care about is the actual cut there is taken, not who it goes to. Where is this information listed? You are ofcause on the right side of the law, but its very unethical.

Quote from: somethingpretentious on April 04, 2012, 07:14

...and not one critical question to the site currently leading the race to the bottom.

Well, if the site didn't have contributors, it couldn't lead the race to the bottom. So the blame should be shared equally between the greedy site and contributors who are willing to work for nothing. That's what happens when the economy tanks. Those with money take advantage of those who are desperate for money. 

I agree. But I think the blame should be shared with 81-85% of blame going to the sites and 15-19% of the blame going to contributors...

Quote from: David_Payoneer on April 03, 2012, 12:28

Hello 4FR

I looked into the matter for you:

The transaction was converted using MasterCard's official rates, and a conversion charge no greater than that mentioned above,. A customer support supervisor contacted you with more detailed information regarding the transaction.
 
Additionally, we use MasterCard�s official rates, which can be estimated at: https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyconversion/index.html.

I hope this helps resolve the confusion and am happy to help if there are further questions.

Thanks David, Dan contacted.

Exactly what I expected the Mastercard rate for my 20000 THB withdrawal is almost 3% (!!!) higher than the market rate for that date and you guys added another 2,3% + ATM charge + Foreign Currency Charge to it which leads to an effective 6% and higher !!!

For us costumers the FINAL % is of matter and as long as you guys work with a mastercard conversion rate which is FAR off any acceptable value, we feel ripped-off by your currency conversions!

No way Payoneer can be competitive with those rates once customers are aware of this "hidden" cost.

Yes, its quite horrible to be honest - especially how hidden this information is. Sorry Payoneer, but you are only a solution for US microstock contributors or people that have not done their research - unfortunately you hide this information so well that im sure most people will never know they are paying 5-6% over the market exchange rate. Paying 5-6 dollars for every 100 dollars spend is just mind-blowingly insane.

Please tell that we are getting all this wrong...

If not there is only one conclusion:

1) Payoneer is NOT a solution if you plan to use your card outside the US

If this change is here to stay, It will no longer be worth uploading to iS for many independents.

With their new weekly subscribtions there will only be more and more subs on DT as buyers old credits run out  - smart move from DT to intransparent cut contributers commision and keep a larger cut to them selves...

I just want to join the choir: its almost ten times more expensive that what I'm willing to pay, and subscription does not make much sense...

I don't have any access to stats. They all stored on local harddrive only.

great!

Is this 50% of the sales price or 50% of whatever percentage you receive from the partner? That does make a difference...

And: Why you sign a NDA that does not allow you to tell the copyright holder of an image through which partner you sell his work is beyond me. Sorry, but if you can't tell me where you're selling my images then I choose to opt out.
Just a practical question: If I see some of my pictures somewhere on the internet, am I supposed to assume it is a legit partner of somebody? Or shall I start writing to them, demanding my work taken down, threatening with legal action?

(Yes, I know, there are others who don't tell us and don't let us opt out - but they should not be used as guiding principle...)
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It truly is mindblowing....Ofcuase the only sensible thing to do is to opt out of such programs

Hi 123rf

I would still really like to know the commision in % we recieve on these partner sites?

And

Why can we not be told about the sites you intend to sell our images on?