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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Creative Networks Whats the point
« on: January 28, 2007, 04:40 »
Alfiofer gave 5 times 1 star, and nothing else...

These ratings are all new, they were not there 2 days ago when I first went through Snem's portfolio.  Definitely an unscrupulous agenda!


I sitemailed Lobo about Alfiofer because it wasn't just Snem. When I was wiki'ing Italy it looks like he has done this a lot.

Edit: It may be an italian thing because I also found this photo that Snem did it to: http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/where/scenics/landscapes/95949_a_sea_landscape.php?id=95949
It looks like Alfiofer and Snem got into a ratings fight.


I must explain something. I did not understand that ratings would put images down in sales until about a month ago when I have rated 1 four or five pics of Naples' surrounding that looks awful to me and only one was of alfiofer.  Naples is the city where I live,  I know what its panoramas can offer to a photographer, so I have put to those photos a bad rating and I wrote a review. The day after alfiofer rated 1 five photos of mine without write a review to explain why. So I understand that images with bad ratings go down in searching and I write to alfiofer telling him the same I'm telling to you. I have changed to 5 all of my bad ratings. So alfiofer don't have bad ratings now, but I have. The right punishment to my unexperience. my question is... why let photographers the possibility of rating photos that a rate of 1 is considered "fight"? Why telling "it may be an Italian thing" if it already exists the english term "rating gang" or "rating fight"?
Regards,
Danilo

PS: please try to understand what I told you in the best way, because my english is very bad and it may be interpreted in the wrong way.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: The neglected images
« on: January 25, 2007, 12:44 »
here are my three

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1383880

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1651797

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1579824

leaf, I have already added 3 of your photos, I have preferred those with low downloads. Do you think is better to publicize photos which already download?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: The neglected images
« on: January 25, 2007, 10:56 »
I'm adding 3 of the best neglected photo of those who are in my CN. Feel free to comment here the lightbox so I can remove or add photos by yours suggestions. The lightbox will become public soon (there are 13 images at the moment)...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: The neglected images
« on: January 25, 2007, 06:54 »
I'm a volunteer! but with no good english (I'm italian...)  ::) and only a bit of experience in photography!  ;D But... I'm a volunteer!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: The neglected images
« on: January 25, 2007, 06:30 »
yeah! I have also some good shots that some antagonist rated "1" to put them out of business...
an example?


http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=2539740

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Creative Networks Whats the point
« on: January 24, 2007, 15:10 »
Wow, I have good ideas sometimes, let's network microstockgroup!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Creative Networks Whats the point
« on: January 24, 2007, 05:39 »
I don't have a CN... who wants to join?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: What do you think about this?
« on: January 15, 2007, 15:44 »
Hi madelaide, I totally agree with you!  but, maybe it was not clear in what I wrote, the question was about photographersdirect's decision to make business with everyone but not with those who submit photos to microstock sites. Just because those "help" microstock to go on in the business?
I would be pleased to choose my best photos and to submit them only to photographersdirect, but I can't. For their policy, right?
Regards

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ImageVortex.com / Re: how is ImageVortex?
« on: January 15, 2007, 15:22 »
I would make a different question than snem's.  Does anyone here know anyone who ever had an image sold at IV? 

a more appropriate question I must say! It seems that nobody have one photo sold on IV

135
General Stock Discussion / What do you think about this?
« on: January 15, 2007, 15:14 »
I have read a whole think about microstock sites on photographersdirect, I must agree that there is some true in this. But suddenly I remember that without microstock someone like myself, a computer science student with passion for photography, never and never would begin to sell its photo to raise some money. Why? just because I have no professional experience, no contacts with pro photographer, no idea at all about this market. Microstock sites give me the possibility to trust in my work (just a passion before), telling me since the beginning that experience is not important if the photo sells. If after only one month of submitting photos to a "macrostock" site I would have noticed no sales, thing that is common, surely I would have give up with this business.
So, again, what do you think about this?

"Why will Photographers Direct not represent photographers who have images on micropayment / microstock sites?

Because they are the antithesis of Fair Trade Photography. Micropayment sites (which sell Royalty Free images for 1 to 3 dollars) prey on the lack of industry-experience of amateur photographers.

The only people who benefit from these sites are:

   1. The site owners, because they make money from the images and do not care about the damage they are doing to professional photographers' livelihoods.
   2. The buyers, who cannot believe their luck at being able to get images for a few dollars, and being able to use them as often as they like, for as long as they like, wherever they like.

The people who lose out every time are the photographers. Almost every photographer we have spoken to on this issue has expressed regret at placing their images on micropayment sites. Initially they are excited at people taking an interest in their images and paying for them. Of course they like making an income from their images, but here are the facts:

    * The average fee for an image licensed through Photographers Direct is about 200 dollars, of which the photographer will receive 160 dollars. Images have been licensed for up to 5000 dollars. These license fees are usually for a single usage, not a Royalty Free license. The photographer can license the same image again and again for similar fees.
    * To make the same average amount through a micropayment site you will have to sell anywhere between 200 and 800 images. These images can be used anywhere at any time and cannot realistically be traced. You are not 'selling' your images, you are not 'having success'; you are giving away your images, and the buyers cannot believe their luck.

Imagine the day when you see one of your images on a book or magazine cover. You will probably be very happy and proud, until you realise you earned one dollar from an image that is helping to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in publishing sales. Is this fair?

A lot of people will respond that this will not happen, that images off micropayment sites are only used by designers for initial layouts and by 'mom and pop' businesses who would never pay more for images. This is simply not true - a quote:

"SAA executive director Betsy Reid pointed out a discussion board on iStockPhoto where members were congratulating photographer Lise Gagne, who wrote that she had just seen one of her stock images on IBM's web site.
'Once you're done celebrating, is anyone going to stop and think that you got 20 cents for that image?' Reid asks."
Quote from Photo District News.

Can IBM afford to pay market rates for images? Of course! Would they pay 500 dollars for this same image if that was the price? The odds are they would. So why did they pay 1 dollar? Because that was the price it was offered for. The photographer has thrown away 499 dollars.

Surely photographers should have the right to market their images where they like?

Of course, but we also have the right to make conditions on who we will and will not represent, and we have a duty to protect the livelihoods of all our photographers who agree that micropayment sites are just downright bad. Here is an example from a micropayment newsgroup of the perils of playing 'boths sides of the fence':

"I signed up to Photographers Direct and was right on the point of selling 6 of my images at $120 each. I then received an email from the guy politely saying that he had found my images on Shutterstock and would I mind if he used them instead before he downloaded them. I politely declined and removed all of them [from Shutterstock] before he could use any, I was fuming at my own stupidity."

In this case the photographer was lucky that the buyer was honest enough to tell him he had found the same images on a micropayment site. The buyer could have just cancelled the sale through Photographers Direct and downloaded the same images from Shutterstock. Rather than (80% of) $720 (which the buyer was clearly happy to pay!) the photographer would then have earned 1 dollar and 50 cents for the use of his images.

Further damage is caused because any buyer who uses a micropayment site will begin to see it as the norm. Whenever they get a normal quote from a photographer for an image, their response will be 'but I can get images at microwhateverstockphoto for 1 dollar!' Where does this leave the photographer?

For these reasons Photographers Direct cannot represent photographers who have any images on micropayment sites. This is part of our Fair Trade policy.

"Micropayment sites sell your work for peanuts and give you the shells"
Quote from World of Stock.

Examples of microstock sites are: istockphoto, canstockphoto, shutterstock, dreamstime, bigstockphoto, crestock, fotolia, 123rf, stockxpert, gimmestock, scandanavianstockphoto, usphotostock, areaimage, shuttermap, stockphotomedia, luckyoliver.com."

Regards

PS: someone could "patch" my English? please

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ImageVortex.com / Re: how is ImageVortex?
« on: January 15, 2007, 12:11 »
A fresh update on how is this site? I'm curious  ;D . thanks

137
Off Topic / Re: Paypal Personal vs Paypal Business
« on: January 14, 2007, 06:13 »
Limits are for me NOW those:
-750/month (euros because it is PayPal Italy...) limit in receiving payments
-2250 life limit
No charge if I withdraw more than 100 at once.
The bad thing is that when the 2250 limit is reached I cannot use more the account or I have to switch to a verified account. Still don't understand totally cons/pros of making this change.
Regards

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS FTP do not work
« on: January 10, 2007, 10:34 »
yes, it is working now  :)

139
Shutterstock.com / SS FTP do not work
« on: January 10, 2007, 09:18 »
Anyone noticed this? ???

140
LuckyOliver.com / Re: LO Website Expired
« on: January 09, 2007, 05:01 »
Still redirected...  ::)

141
Dreamstime.com / Re: DT have nearly 40,000 files pending
« on: January 03, 2007, 08:50 »
Mine from Dec. 20th are still in the queue...

142
Off Topic / Re: Final numbers for 06
« on: January 02, 2007, 05:57 »
SS 61%
DT 16%   
FT 8%
BigStock 6%
StockXpert 4%
ISP 3%


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you can also check out exif files of photos  ;) - mr. gajatz shots with eos , my girlfriend and myself - we are Nikon fans, mr. gruizza uses oly ....etc...
 if anyone of you fellows come to Belgrade - Serbia - feel free to join us on workshop, or if we have lack of inspiration, we'll go to bar and drink few beers.

 best regards, ane merry Christmas and new year  to all stockers

 dr bouz

I trust you, don't need to check this out... I repeat, it was a strange thing (for me only I see) and I have posted it. Next time I will think twice before doing the same.
Regards

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Shutterstock.com / Re: of course
« on: December 27, 2006, 11:56 »
i would like to know what is your problem about this? don't tell me that you have NO friends photographers?

this lady is a professional model - she was earned for this session by a few photographers  ;)

regards
Sasha Radosavljevic (the 3rd photo is mine)

I have no problem at all! I have only noted a strange thing due to my poor experience with model/studio world. Sorry about misunderstandings.

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but they didn't give me an extended licence! The newspaper claims more than 700000 prints. I've noticed the photo was bought at SS by subscription and my royalty was standard 0.25$. What do you suggest me to do now?

147
Photoshop Discussion / Re: Photoshop CS3
« on: December 16, 2006, 04:43 »
It is totally a major release! I find many of the enhancements pretty useful!

148
Photoshop Discussion / Re: need help on noise software
« on: December 12, 2006, 14:49 »
my personal opinion, neat image + camera profile is the best choice considering quality of output and time of processing

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Photoshop Discussion / Re: need help on noise software
« on: December 12, 2006, 13:36 »
I think this is a good review of these kinf of software http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm
maybe a bit old but complete

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Off Topic / Re: Paypal Personal vs Paypal Business
« on: December 11, 2006, 09:28 »
My personal account have two limits... 500$ per month and 2250$ total... I wonder what "total" means...

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