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Messages - drugal
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« on: May 20, 2012, 17:25 »
For you big entrepreneurs who want to play the game, go for it! I wish you all the success in the world. Truly. For me, I don't want the Share button on my images on DT. I should at least be able to make my own decision about my own images. That's really all I'm asking.
it's not just that, it's also a matter of principle : we join an agency because the agency is promising to make SALES.
and to make serious sales i expect an agency to invest a sh-itload of money on advertising, which is something i can't afford at the moment and for why i agree the agency should take a cut bigger than mine in each sale.
if i had to pay someone to spam social networks with random links and pins, there are many other better and cheaper ways, and if it worked so good anybody would be doing it since a long time, which is not the case.
None of that needs a cut bigger than yours... but go on encouraging them, very smart. you ppl excell at working against your interest, than whining as if the resulting situation is someone else's fault, pure brilliance. I think thats by far the most important moral of threads like this that you should be contemplating, forget pinning this and that.... : )
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« on: May 20, 2012, 17:16 »
Do both selectively - masking.
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« on: May 20, 2012, 05:25 »
It has to be extremely unlikely that SS would accept any offers from FT . FT might be looking at a lot of the other sites. There could be a bit of a battle between FT and SS for several of the sites that have a reasonable market share.
Or they could be using the money to take on Getty and get some of the traditional market while Getty is being run by a hedge fund that doesn't look interested in growing the business.
Or perhaps now is the time that Getty and Istock are going to be sold off and SS and FT are getting their cash ready.
Accepting offers? It's an IPO.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 17:49 »
Good stuff. The larger preview favors the more pro-ish looking, well retouched clean and sharp images with good looking models imho.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 17:44 »
Fotolia sells 50% stake for $300m
thats waaay too much money. They are leveraging up to buy something, likely shutterstock. 'Private equity' is just the latest name for leveraged buyout firms after those got a really-really bad name for themselves among people who actually work for a living.
Yes, it's too much money. Shutterstock must be worth way more than Fotolia. I've seen one surprisingly low number for the SS IPO but I don't know whether it was real or was just made up by someone. I don't see how Fotolia could buy SS, it would be like the minnow swallowing the shark.
thats why it's usually a 'leveraged' buyout. These buyout ppl never use any money of their own, not a cent. Are there any more details about the SS IPO? Maybe it's something minor, way-way below a controlling interest. Lets hope its something like that.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 17:04 »
Here's an interesting article from Gizmodo on the Facebook IPO. Even though it's written about Facebook I think it has quite a few applications to Shutterstock. Here is a quote which I'm afraid might be true.. switch out facebook for shutterstock in the bold part
But in the long term, Facebook being a public company has potentially huge repercussions. Private companies have the luxury of running themselves however they want. They can focus on long-term strategy instead of short-term gain. Public companies, though, have to march in front of their shareholders every three months and explain how and why they madeor lostso much of other people's money.
That kind of pressure can make a company lose sight of what made it so successful in the first place. Facebook, in particular, will be immediately under fire for not doing more to monetize each individual user. Its earnings are dramatically below its projections; if it doesn't find a way to grow quickly, it'll have hell to pay. For a company that's already prone to overreaching, that anger could be the spark that lights a powder keg of privacy and Open Graph concerns.
http://gizmodo.com/5911275/reminder-the-facebook-ipo-wont-make-you-rich/
These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 16:54 »
Fotolia sells 50% stake for $300m
thats waaay too much money. They are leveraging up to buy something, likely shutterstock. 'Private equity' is just the latest name for leveraged buyout firms after those got a really-really bad name for themselves among people who actually work for a living.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 16:41 »
mess up, then say you can't roll back time? thats all? what kind of attitude is that?
Realistic.
no its just repetitive denial Your alternative is?
?? I'm not the one whining, opening threads about pinterest, blogs, etc, etc. So... what are you going to do? Any action plan, anyone?
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« on: May 19, 2012, 16:15 »
as you can see here http://peopleimages.com/support/contact it seems that the new site of Yuri can offer one of the best support ever....through skype and msn
incredible how one man can do better than an entire agency
What do you mean "one man"? 
Well, I guess he is taking your calls while shooting, sorting raw files, taking a shower, family dinner, hiking, it just takes a permanent headset After he is finished coding the site and sewing supersized softboxes.
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« on: May 19, 2012, 09:35 »
... just about everything happening points towards the conclusion that you ppl are totally incapable of doing anything in your own interest. With the pirate party, once again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Some enlightenment (clue stick )
Your suggestion is ... ?
http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012
"The item you have requested has a problem with one or more of the metadata files that describe it, which prevents us from displaying this page."
As always ppl ant some 'magic answer'. There is none.
So the point of your rant was just to say, "If only we hadn't..." You can't roll back time. We have to deal with the situation as it is.
The real "If only..." is not about micro pricing, it's actually about the RF model, no matter the price; it makes it very difficult to be certain if an unwatermarked 'find' is a use by a legitimate buyer or not.
Heres the link:
-http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012-
Had to post it like this, the board engine is broken, keeps messing up the url.
The board engine is not broken.
http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012
I will warn people, which you did not, that this is a 52 minute audio file.
I'm sure what they said could be much more succinctly listed by someone who has enough spare time to listen to it.
mess up, then say you can't roll back time? thats all? what kind of attitude is that?
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« on: May 19, 2012, 03:17 »
... just about everything happening points towards the conclusion that you ppl are totally incapable of doing anything in your own interest. With the pirate party, once again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Some enlightenment (clue stick )
Your suggestion is ... ?
http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012
"The item you have requested has a problem with one or more of the metadata files that describe it, which prevents us from displaying this page."
As always ppl ant some 'magic answer'. There is none. First of all you should have punished these severely unfair agencies when they started shafting you... but that should have happened years ago, by deactivating / removing images. You could have very very effectively protested without even leaving the comfort of your room.... and you ppl did.... tadaaa.. nothin'. You didn't want to loose a few dollars, now you are going to loose everything (not becouse of hackers, because you are poens for the agencies) I'd say thats somewhat more important than pointlessly ranting for hours and days about watermarked thumbnails popping up here and there. Other thing is that if you take place and promote a market like this, at least look around and see the tendencies. As technology progresses, the price of many generic things (storage, music, etc...) including generic images, is on a curve to zero. Theres nothing you can do about it. Actually endorsing the microstock model for years, you are one of the many ppl making sure this happens. You helped aggressively pushing the price of something down happily went on creating oversupply.... did you seriously think it's just gonna stop at a point comfortable to you despite your own actions? : ) Welcome to the world: it wont. It will keep sliding. Heres the link: -http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012- Had to post it like this, the board engine is broken, keeps messing up the url.
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« on: May 18, 2012, 18:29 »
By the way, I have complained on the DT forums. Achilles has jumped in. Here's the thread:
http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_31459
I am hoping that some of you fellow contributors who express yourselves way more eloquently than I will help out with getting an opt out or having the Share button removed from our images.
I am not convinced at all that people pinning images from DT or any other site or posting to FB are translating into whopping sales for us contributors. I think the same people who are using these images are the same ones who think that anything on the internet is free for their taking. 
I followed your post ... and the response -- or, should I say, "The Spin?" 
Achilles made some good points. He is concerned that social media is such a powerful trend that he ignores it at his peril, and he is probably right. He can't afford to fail to use promotional media that Getty is exploiting.
However, I think we should try to hold the microstock agencies' feet to the fire on this. More and more, it looks like the social media sites and Google are mounting a broad and very real attack on copyright itself (look at the posts of the troll who joined here just to attack us today, look at the Pirate party in the German legislature, and the way that the Polish gov voted to support the pirates). We have a lot to lose if they win.
Attack? I sell microstock too. I'm trying to help, because I see most of you are so incredibly clueless, you go on a rapmage and end up talking... talking?... shouting against your own interest all the time. You are some of the most misled, misinformed people I'v ever seen on the net. No wonder they rip most of you off all the time again and again and again. Don't any of you think, after being humiliated and shafted continuously for years, that maybe, just maybe, you should listen to someone who actually knows whats happening? Correct me if I'm wrong my friend but just about everything happening points towards the conclusion that you ppl are totally incapable of doing anything in your own interest. With the pirate party, once again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Some enlightenment (clue stick ) http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-04February2012
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« on: May 18, 2012, 16:28 »
Pinterest valued at $1.5 BILLION, bags $100m in funding
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/17/pinterest_raises_100m/
now W-T-F !!
This gang of leechers, well known and proud pirates and copyright infringers ...
so now it's official ... investors don't give a F_uck_ing sh-it about copyright and stolen photos, they're all laughing all the way to the bank and who cares if MILLIONS of stolen pictures are already available and stored in Pinterest servers ?
this is the typical "F_uc_k and forget" silicon valley approach ...throwing the sh-it at the wall and see what sticks ... no matter how .. and no matter if content is stolen or original ... that's stuff for the lawyers eventually or the gullible ones buying their stock later or the new inventors joining their ponzi schemes ...
i'm really tempted to launch a piratebay-style web site where not only you can download torrent links but paying an annual fee you can download your whole zipped pirated files ... photoshop .. lightroom .. autocad .. whatever ... and who cares after all as no one is going in jail and the Pirate parties are now even represented in the german and swedish parlament 
NEVER as in 2012 creatives and photographers have been scr-ewed so bad, fact !
we might as well soon get another job, or apply at Pinterest, Flickr, Facebook, Google ... as once the photo business will be finally killed they will be the only ones left dealing with images and who knows they could even start selling online our stolen images claiming they're "orphan works".
Being here, I assume you generally sell on microstock sites, which means you offer your shots to be downloaded en masse, by anyone with just a handfull of dollars for something like $.5 a pop, or probabaly even less... 25 a day, etc, and they can upload them anywhere after that, of course.... then you whine about some of your shots ending up on pinterest servers? : ) ehmmm.... get a clue... maybe? and your buddies too... really.
I see you are a newbie here and this is your first post. Like I'm going to listen to anything you have to say. Troll.
Sure, anyone who makes an actual real-life point is a troll....
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« on: May 18, 2012, 16:17 »
Pinterest valued at $1.5 BILLION, bags $100m in funding
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/17/pinterest_raises_100m/
now W-T-F !!
This gang of leechers, well known and proud pirates and copyright infringers ...
so now it's official ... investors don't give a F_uck_ing sh-it about copyright and stolen photos, they're all laughing all the way to the bank and who cares if MILLIONS of stolen pictures are already available and stored in Pinterest servers ?
this is the typical "F_uc_k and forget" silicon valley approach ...throwing the sh-it at the wall and see what sticks ... no matter how .. and no matter if content is stolen or original ... that's stuff for the lawyers eventually or the gullible ones buying their stock later or the new inventors joining their ponzi schemes ...
i'm really tempted to launch a piratebay-style web site where not only you can download torrent links but paying an annual fee you can download your whole zipped pirated files ... photoshop .. lightroom .. autocad .. whatever ... and who cares after all as no one is going in jail and the Pirate parties are now even represented in the german and swedish parlament
NEVER as in 2012 creatives and photographers have been scr-ewed so bad, fact !
we might as well soon get another job, or apply at Pinterest, Flickr, Facebook, Google ... as once the photo business will be finally killed they will be the only ones left dealing with images and who knows they could even start selling online our stolen images claiming they're "orphan works".
Being here, I assume you generally sell on microstock sites, which means you offer your shots to be downloaded en masse, by anyone with just a handfull of dollars for something like $.5 a pop, or probabaly even less... 25 a day, etc, and they can upload them anywhere after that, of course.... then you whine about some of your shots ending up on pinterest servers? : ) ehmmm.... get a clue... maybe? and your buddies too... really.
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