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General Stock Discussion / Re: Drop in sales
« on: April 04, 2006, 18:02 »
Sales definatly rise when I upload images, and drop about 1 week after stopping. I think sales rise because as I mentioned before, at shutterstock the images are sorted by 'newest first'. A perosn then clicks on an image, perhaps likes what they see, clicks on my gallery and downloads more of my pictures.

I can see why sales would drop off over time on SS, since the default order is by date.  But the default order for the other microsites is as follows:

iStockPhoto: Best Match

Dreamstime: Relevancy (descending)

Fotolia: Pertinance

BigStockPhoto: Search Match (descending)

123RoyaltyFree: Random

So it seems that most of the other sites use some sort of "best match" system as the default.  So I can't see why it would matter on the other sites.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Drop in sales
« on: April 04, 2006, 17:54 »
A few sites show the latest photos to be added to the collection so i suppose if you are uploading on a regular basis you will have a presence (however fleeting) in this section so someone will see one of your pictures and either download that or something else when they look at your portfolio.

There are thousands of images added to most of the microsites each day, so the chance of someone seeing your image in the "latest uploads" page is slim to none.

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Anyone else care to play nice and share?

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General - Top Sites / Re: Uploading to multiple sites
« on: April 04, 2006, 13:32 »
Yes, the same image can be uploaded to multiple sites (as long as you are not exclusive with any one site).

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Drop in sales
« on: April 04, 2006, 13:31 »
I have heard this before, but I can't figure out why that would be.  Anyone know why sales would drop off because of a lack of uploading?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: EXIF vs IPTC tags
« on: April 04, 2006, 13:30 »
The EXIF tags that the microstocks read are from Windows file properties.  As far as I know, not all software supports this "standard".  IMO, it is better to use the IPTC, since it is a well-followed standard and most programs support it.

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It seems that iStockphoto and Shutterstock are the #1 and #2 best selling sites for almost everyone.

What are your third and fourth best selling sites (by either downloads or total sales)?

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Gimmestock.com / Re: Referrals of sorts at Gimmestock?
« on: March 31, 2006, 05:50 »
Their pricing

20% until 499 downloads made from your images
25% more than 500 downloads made from your images
30% more than 2000 downloads made from your images
35% more than 10000 downloads made from your images
40% more than 20000 downloads made from your images

That royalty structure seems a little ridiculous, especially since I'll bet that nobody has over 50 downloads at this point...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: DAM - Digital Asset management
« on: March 28, 2006, 11:31 »
[...] idImager has version management [...]

uh..sorry for the stupid question, but what is version management? a way to archive different version of the same image?

Version management means different things to different people, but here is the description for what idImager's versioning does:

"Versioning is another unique feature of idImager. The program can keep track of all versions that you create for a single image. This way you create virtual image stacks. The catalogue will only contain a single entry of the image, while you can access other versions directly from the main version. When you browse your storage media and find an image, it may or may not be the main version but idImager can show you at any time which is the main version and which are the other known registered versions. You can add versions manually or use the integrated Version Detection Wizard. This wizard allows you to scan folders on your hard drive for images that are most likely versions. This way it is very easy to find and identify your versions without the risk of missing one."

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General Stock Discussion / Re: DAM - Digital Asset management
« on: March 27, 2006, 11:46 »
How do you keep track of what has been submitted and where and whether it has been accepted or not. I assume Imatch doesn't do this??

Actually, IMatch can handle a lot of this. I use the category system to track a lot of this. I have created categories for Possible Submission (for an image that I am thinking about submitting), Pending, Accepted, and Rejected. Under each of these categories, I have created subcategories for each microsite that I am registered with. For example:

Pending:
iStockphoto
Shutterstock
Dreamstime
Fotolia
123RF

I will then move the photo from Possible Submission to Pending, and then to Accepted or Rejected.

excel is fine with 100 images (ranging from 40% to 100% acceptance) but I can see it gettingout of control. I also keep track of earnings and DL and various other performance measures on another tab. I am only into my first month so pointers would be helpful.

I also use Excel to track the dates for when a photo is submitted and then either accepted/rejected. But I believe that you can do this in IMatch as well by created what are called custom Properties. I might give this a try in the next week or so.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: DAM - Digital Asset management
« on: March 27, 2006, 11:41 »
What do you use to oraganize and keyword your images??

I currently use IMatch, but I have been testing idImager. idImager has version management and some other nice features, but IMatch is still a lot faster and more stable.

I don't use keywords. I use categories. I feel that it is a lot faster for workflow. IMO, there are too many issues with keywords: mispelling, using words inconsistently, having to take the extra time to type them in, etc.

If I need keywords for a specific image, I enter them into the IPTC fields. For example, when I am about to upload an image to one of the microstocks, I will enter keywords just before the upload. This way it will autopopulate the Title, Description, and Keywords (on most sites at least).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Hardware failure
« on: March 24, 2006, 10:42 »
I have been on iStockphoto on and off throughout the morning.

I just checked and I have no problems as well.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock VS Istock
« on: March 23, 2006, 09:55 »
They also accept editorial stock, which can help boost their #s.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock VS Istock
« on: March 23, 2006, 06:34 »
A few weeks ago, I created a spreadsheet to compare some of the microstocks.  At that time, the #s were as follows:

iStockphoto: 656,000
Shutterstock: 600,000
Difference: 56,000

Please note that I rounded the #s for simplicity, but it shows that Shutterstock is definitely adding more images.  Could it be because iStock is more finicky now?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Site Sudjestions??
« on: March 18, 2006, 20:02 »
the problem is that you cannot look at the downloadnumbers on each page, which are for me really interesting.

Not sure what you mean by that.

Each site is sligthly different.

iStockphoto, Dreamstime, and BigStockPhoto all show the # of downloads.

Fotolia shows the # of views.

Shutterstock and 123RoyaltyFree don't show anything.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Site Sudjestions??
« on: March 18, 2006, 06:38 »
But interest is the main factor. Since leaf asked I told him my suggestion. I personally would love it to have such a statistic and that would be one reason for me to visit this website more often. If there are more people out there who are interested in such a thing the website would be more attractive for them. I guess there are! Or am I totally on the wrong track?

Freezingpcitures: I hope that you didn't think that I was attacking you personally.  If you got that impression, then let me apologize to you, that was not my intent.  I was just trying to respond to your post.  While I agree that some statistics might help, I'm not sure how much it would help.  I also don't know how many photographers would want to divulge this type of information.

This is what I do to obtain info:

- Go to each microstock site and take a look at the the top downloads.  This should give you an idea of what is selling.
- If you have specific photos in mind, for example a shot of a pumpkin, then go to each microstock site and search for that photo and see how they are selling.  Also check out what differentiates the top sellers from all the others.  For example, do photos of pumpkins alone sell more than photos of pumpkins with other objects around them.  Or do photos of pumpkins with people sell more than photos of pumpkins without people.
- Go to each microstock site and check out the top photographers.  Take a look at their images and get an idea for what their top selling images are.
- Take a look at what each microstock site is looking for.  Many times a microstock site will put up a list of specific photos that they need.

Hope this helps.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Site Sudjestions??
« on: March 17, 2006, 20:27 »
Having a few people upload their information would not be a valid statistical study.  There are thousands of photographers, and thousands of clients.  The few stats they you might see will tell you how those specific photographers are doing, but not much else.  As they say "mileage varies".

There are too many variables to why some photos sell and some don't.

For example:

- Each microstock site caters to different clients.  Some microstocks take 2 MP, but some don't take less than 6 MP.  Some want more shots for web sites, while others want shots for advertising clients.

- Some photographers try to "market" themselves.  Some participate on forums to get their names known.  Some have their own websites.  Some photographers do absolutely nothing.

- Some photographers really "work" their photos.  They try to use PhotoShop or PaintShopPro to squeeze the most out of a particular photo.  Some just upload what comes out of the camera.

- Some photographers have a great eye for "stock" photos.  Some don't.

So trying to compare yourself to another photographer is pretty useless (IMO).  You might be able to get a "feel" for things, but beyond that I believe that you just need to take the plunge, put the time in, and find your own niche.

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Site Related / Re: Interviews
« on: March 13, 2006, 19:12 »
If you are still looking for interview candidates, I would be honored.  I am a newbie to the stock world, but have been mostly an amateur photographer for over 20 years.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockPhoto Submission Process
« on: March 06, 2006, 18:03 »
Video? Does istock have video too? I thought shutterstock was the only one!, or do you mean flash animation?

Sorry, got them confused.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockPhoto Submission Process
« on: March 06, 2006, 16:56 »
...but i suppose with 100 reviewers (i think that is what i saw somewhere) there is bound to be discrepancies.


There are 41 reviewers.  And not all of them do photos.  Some do illustrations, and some do video.

See here: http://www.istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=147

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iStockPhoto.com / iStockPhoto Submission Process
« on: March 06, 2006, 14:16 »
iStockPhoto requests that a potential photographer submit three (3) images as part of the registration process.  How many of these images need to be approved in order to be accepted?

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