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« on: October 19, 2016, 10:08 »
This is hard to police - I think they are just basically scraping Google Images results. You can search for literally anything and get results - they're offering to print the results and sent it to you. They say they have 10 billion images, and there's no way this crappy little site stores those.
If the customer is happy with a watermarked thumbnail blown up to poster size, then so be it, I guess. Everything about this is illegal, I'm guessing, but they seem like equal opportunity offenders.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 16:12 »
It's just a way to sell more photos - 123rf should be thrilled. I'm more of a designer/developer than a photographer. Joomlart is a great site (I've used it over the years and it always seemed like it was made by non English speakers, so I do suggest working on that).
I think this has a good chance of succeeding and I appreciate you coming by to talk about it. A ton of work has obviously go into the site, though some of the UX and UI seem a bit confusing.
It seems like Canva decided to build their own library ASAP and cut out the middle agency, so I'm guessing you'll do the same a some point. Best of luck.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 15:30 »
 hosted here: ... db-s13-storage-public.designbold.com ...
At the moment your website gives no feedback to 123rf website. So we (the photographers) do not earn a single cent while you sell a template with our images. Iam realy confused why you should even be allowed to use a extended license. I thought digital reproductions are not allowed.
Your website is searching first at selfhosted images (  our iamges from 123rf only by regular licence). This is not ok for regular licence.
After this it will search on 123rf too. This is ok for regular licence.
For your self hosted images you need a extended license.
You can not buy the 123rf images once and resell it as templates and only pay a regular low price only one time. NO WAY!
I do not think the photograper is happy you resell his image:
https://de.dreamstime.com/stockfoto-blondes-mdchen-der-mode-im-modischen-jeansmantel-image51865059
https://www.designbold.com/templates/qv4wxQGv2p/sale-off-up-to-40-graphic-resources.html
The storage you mentioned is for the cached and performance purpose only.
We notify 123RF via the API when any download is made.
You can make a test of download of any of your images (if you have an account on 123RF), and if you pay at DesignBold, you will be notified about the sales!
There is clearly 123rf API infrastructure in place, even if it's being worked out on a prelaunch site. Anyway, this is how businesses (both you and 123rf) grow - by making content available in unconventional ways. I like this - but you may find resistance in this forum since a lot of shady business "deals" end up screwing the photographers and this is a photographer-heavy board that doesn't trust businesses very much.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 15:20 »
I see no problem with this whatsoever.
You see sites all the time selling wall art - those sites are API partners of agencies, and the sites do nothing (and put up no money) to offer the entire inventory of the agency to their users. When a user buys wall art, the site licenses the image (thus paying the photographer) and fulfills the order. The site is basically an ad platform to display images, and if someone want the image, they facilitate licensing. And they get a kickback from the agency as well. (As you should, as an API partner.) Same idea, right?
Not really. We do modify the stocks to re-produce a new template.
If you take 2-3 minutes trying to create a design from this template
https://www.designbold.com/design/trial/facebook-post/xELD70W92p
1) try to search for other photo and drag into the design
2) then download it (you will be asked to register an account when downloading)
After download your design, you will understand more about how our system works.
PS: You will need some stock photo credit for testing download, I just created a PROMO code for some stock photo from Agency. Please enter the code "vMJDnBDRna" at this page:
https://www.designbold.com/account/gift-code
It said the code was expired or invalid, but I get the idea. It asked me to pay for the image I used when I downloaded my design. Is that where they say you need an extended license? I see that it didn't ask me to license the image that was already there where I started - it said it was free. Is it a free image, or one you licensed?
1. Sorry, try this one: vMJDnBDRna
2. If you look at the left column, there are template with both free photo and paid stock.
Eg:
This one, everything is free
https://www.designbold.com/design/edit/yO23n3zG4r
This one includes stock that user will need to pay, because it used images from Agency
https://www.designbold.com/design/edit/xELD70W92p
Code still not valid, and 404 on both links. 
I just updated the links, make sure you already logged in:
This one, everything is free
https://www.designbold.com/design/trial/social-media/yO23n3zG4r
This one includes stock that user will need to pay, because it used images from Agency
https://www.designbold.com/design/trial/facebook-post/xELD70W92p
Yes, this works fine. I think this is exactly the same as my example with the wall art sites - you allow users to browse and create what they want, then you facilitate the purchase of the license when they have what they want to use. The only problem I can see AT ALL with this is you hosting the image previews, but as I say, I think this can be worked out with an agency partner.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 15:17 »
hosted here: ... db-s13-storage-public.designbold.com ...
At the moment your website gives no feedback to 123rf website. So we (the photographers) do not earn a single cent while you sell a template with our images. Iam realy confused why you should even be allowed to use a extended license. I thought digital reproductions are not allowed.
Your website is searching first at selfhosted images ( our iamges from 123rf only by regular licence). This is not ok for regular licence.
After this it will search on 123rf too. This is ok for regular licence.
For your self hosted images you need a extended license.
You can not buy the 123rf images once and resell it as templates and only pay a regular low price only one time. NO WAY!
I do not think the photograper is happy you resell his image:
https://de.dreamstime.com/stockfoto-blondes-mdchen-der-mode-im-modischen-jeansmantel-image51865059
https://www.designbold.com/templates/qv4wxQGv2p/sale-off-up-to-40-graphic-resources.html
It costs 4 credits to download that design. As long as the money for the license is passed to 123rf, there should not be a problem. Hosting the previews on the platform is not common, but can be negotiated, I would think.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 15:14 »
I see no problem with this whatsoever.
You see sites all the time selling wall art - those sites are API partners of agencies, and the sites do nothing (and put up no money) to offer the entire inventory of the agency to their users. When a user buys wall art, the site licenses the image (thus paying the photographer) and fulfills the order. The site is basically an ad platform to display images, and if someone want the image, they facilitate licensing. And they get a kickback from the agency as well. (As you should, as an API partner.) Same idea, right?
Not really. We do modify the stocks to re-produce a new template.
If you take 2-3 minutes trying to create a design from this template
https://www.designbold.com/design/trial/facebook-post/xELD70W92p
1) try to search for other photo and drag into the design
2) then download it (you will be asked to register an account when downloading)
After download your design, you will understand more about how our system works.
PS: You will need some stock photo credit for testing download, I just created a PROMO code for some stock photo from Agency. Please enter the code "vMJDnBDRna" at this page:
https://www.designbold.com/account/gift-code
It said the code was expired or invalid, but I get the idea. It asked me to pay for the image I used when I downloaded my design. Is that where they say you need an extended license? I see that it didn't ask me to license the image that was already there where I started - it said it was free. Is it a free image, or one you licensed?
1. Sorry, try this one: vMJDnBDRna
2. If you look at the left column, there are template with both free photo and paid stock.
Eg:
This one, everything is free
https://www.designbold.com/design/edit/yO23n3zG4r
This one includes stock that user will need to pay, because it used images from Agency
https://www.designbold.com/design/edit/xELD70W92p
Code still not valid, and 404 on both links.
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« on: October 18, 2016, 15:01 »
I see no problem with this whatsoever.
You see sites all the time selling wall art - those sites are API partners of agencies, and the sites do nothing (and put up no money) to offer the entire inventory of the agency to their users. When a user buys wall art, the site licenses the image (thus paying the photographer) and fulfills the order. The site is basically an ad platform to display images, and if someone want the image, they facilitate licensing. And they get a kickback from the agency as well. (As you should, as an API partner.) Same idea, right?
Not really. We do modify the stocks to re-produce a new template.
If you take 2-3 minutes trying to create a design from this template
https://www.designbold.com/design/trial/facebook-post/xELD70W92p
1) try to search for other photo and drag into the design
2) then download it (you will be asked to register an account when downloading)
After download your design, you will understand more about how our system works.
PS: You will need some stock photo credit for testing download, I just created a PROMO code for some stock photo from Agency. Please enter the code "vMJDnBDRna" at this page:
https://www.designbold.com/account/gift-code
It said the code was expired or invalid, but I get the idea. It asked me to pay for the image I used when I downloaded my design. Is that where they say you need an extended license? I see that it didn't ask me to license the image that was already there where I started - it said it was free. Is it a free image, or one you licensed?
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« on: October 18, 2016, 14:39 »
So you're paying a regular license fee to display the work as part of your collection, and if a user decides to use the image in a graphic that is deployed somewhere, then the user pays a second license fee for that image. Correct?
Perfectly correct. And I try to convince the Agency & their contributors that is the right way to interpret our photo usage.
What is your opinion, ppdd?
I see no problem with this whatsoever. You see sites all the time selling wall art - those sites are API partners of agencies, and the sites do nothing (and put up no money) to offer the entire inventory of the agency to their users. When a user buys wall art, the site licenses the image (thus paying the photographer) and fulfills the order. The site is basically an ad platform to display images, and if someone want the image, they facilitate licensing. And they get a kickback from the agency as well. (As you should, as an API partner.) Same idea, right?
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« on: October 18, 2016, 14:25 »
Not a huge fan of either name, but given the two I would not choose ephoto.
It sounds like you are working with an existing stock agency via the API - perhaps you should negotiate with them and another agency to clarify terms and decide what use will be covered under which license implementation. If you're inventing a gray area, you may get different interpretations.
So you're paying a regular license fee to display the work as part of your collection, and if a user decides to use the image in a graphic that is deployed somewhere, then the user pays a second license fee for that image. Correct?
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« on: September 08, 2016, 13:16 »
iphone is merely copycatting other mobile brands now.
Minus the earphone jack, which means a $150 wireless headset to make it play. Thank you Apple again for making your product what the dictators at your company want us to have. User unfriendly except the Mac-nazi's and Chauvinists. This will some day come back at them, like it did to iStock.
Well, not really. It comes with earbuds that plug right into the Lightning port, and an adaptor for regular headphones. The wireless headset is totally optional. The only inconvenience would be charging and listening to wired headphones at the same time, which is not uncommon but easily overcome with bluetooth headphones.
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« on: August 26, 2016, 15:18 »
That's your ThinkStock payment, right? Getty bought Jupiter and ended up with StockXpert and SXC.hu, which was rebranded as freeimages.com.
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« on: August 25, 2016, 11:34 »
It says "Sponsored images" near the blocks of images provided by Shutterstock. That means that the images come from the advertiser - in this case Shutterstock - and not the site you're viewing.
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« on: August 25, 2016, 00:43 »
You are mistaken. SS basically advertises on those sites and the sites get a kickback if they refer customers, but SS has nothing to do with running or creating them.
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« on: August 24, 2016, 20:36 »
They don't. And they place all their work into the public domain, so there is no copyright or other usage restrictions.
Actually, there is a contribute button or coffee button where people can give a photographer a little cash, and some make a little money that way. But the work is public domain, so the next site that takes all the work and reposts it is not obligated to offer anything.
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« on: August 14, 2016, 14:43 »
They link to sites that host images, but they don't host any themselves. What site is hosting your images?
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« on: August 04, 2016, 10:53 »
That site is a total shitshow. Terrible Copperplate logo. Font splatter. Mobile hostile. Horrible.
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« on: August 03, 2016, 15:12 »
I just clicked the ad and it looks like you can get unlimited downloads for around $20 a month. What is wrong with these people! Another agency I am glad I don;t upload to any more.
That's during the Beta period and it ramps up to launch pricing, which is $49 monthly.
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« on: July 22, 2016, 14:24 »
I think there is a model for something like this that can work, but it needs to be business savvy first and realistic about transparency.
I think things like 90 or 100% commission promises doom the project from the start. Great commissions are fine, but anything over 60% will handcuff a business that relies on promotion of itself to gain customers. Using the 40% in a transparent way will get support from the contributors.
A real co-op is run by managers, who are often paid some money to run the business. There is a board of directors, often all volunteer, who have business experience and oversee the operation. Books are open and spending is transparent, and members vote on the direction of the business.
These business structures are in place to keep the trust of the members. You don't have to trust each other, per se, because you trust the structure that was established in order to even out the influence of any one person. There are a number of options for setting up.
Until something like that is formally established, this conversation will continue to crop up and then crumble.
All my opinions.
44
« on: June 30, 2016, 15:40 »
Looks like a free photo site that is a Shutterstock affiliate, like many other free photo sites.
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« on: June 24, 2016, 10:42 »
Works fine for me.
46
« on: April 12, 2016, 13:23 »
Looks like just the subscription options from the normal Dreamstime site, without credit expiration. Different video options. Not really sure what the point of this site is. Some "Machine learning" benefit... https://www.megapixl.com/--- NASHVILLE, Tenn., April 12, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Dreamstime, the world's largest community in stock photography, announced today the launch of Megapixl.com, a new website that utilizes machine learning to offer more refined stock image choices based on past user behaviors. This artificial intelligence (AI) utilizes data garnered from all of the Dreamstime sites regarding which content is the most relevant and suitable for the individual user. Dreamstime analyzes user-driven Big Data that is collected into its main AI from across its library of websites and across multiple electronic devices. It then leverages that information to recommend Megapixl.com images to designers based on the actions of other aggregated user decisions. The end result is a more engaging and relevant user experience. The system "learns" user preferences over time, and will give higher priority ratings to content that is most suitable to the individual user. Available on a subscription basis, Megapixl.com features the most attractive stock image subscriptions in the industry. The initial collection on Megapixl.com is curated based on editor's feedback and customer behaviors that rate images and place them within certain ranks in the collection. Once the site is launched, the machine learning platform will take gathered user data into account and offer refinements to the Dreamstime.com main site. Content on the site includes photos, vector art, and video content representing several categories including abstract, business, people, editorial, 2D & 3D Animation, Video Production Elements, Technology, and Travel. "By launching MegaPixl we give users access to an incredible collection that is curated by humans and then further improved and customized by machine learning tools that learn past behaviors to make dynamic recommendations," said Serban Enache, CEO and co-founder, Dreamstime. "The initial collection on Megapixl is already curated because we've accounted for user's actions so we know how images will be rated and placed within the collection. Megapixl is designed as a first stop for designers because we are effectively using the designer community to help itself by basing the collection on designer behaviors. Users will come to the site to find the right image quickly giving them more time to focus on their designs." The site will offer a 30 Day Free Trial that will provide new customers with the opportunity to experience the difference of the new image gallery available on Megapixl.com.
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« on: February 10, 2016, 23:58 »
It looks like this site just crawls and indexes freepik but has not control over it, just as freepik crawls and indexes other sites.
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« on: February 07, 2016, 13:12 »
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« on: February 05, 2016, 14:40 »
This is going to be a losing battle in the forum for Freepik, but the reality is that they have a business model, and it's working, and they are paying people to participate, which is more than most sketchy free outlets. The copying is worrisome, and they have grown to a point where it is difficult to police. That needs to be addressed. People download things a ton because they are free. You can make $45 quickly with free downloads, or you can complain about being one of 60 million elements (many very similar) in Shutterstock and hope that your work gets picked a few times. There are userbases that are addressed by each model. Do you think that this graphic being downloaded 9000 times is depriving you of 9000 legitimate licenses? No.
Freepik is here to discuss the model, and you can be crappy and make sure that no sites bother to defend themselves in the future, or you can examine the changing landscape of how media is distributed and, since it's not going away, see how it can be ethically improved. Yes, this model is a threat to other models, which were threats to the models before.
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