Quote from: Les on July 27, 2020, 19:55

Quote from: Josephine on July 27, 2020, 10:44

I am living in a country with no social welfare benefits like unemployment money, food stamps or stimulus check like in America. The alternative would be begging in the streets.
I envy people who can quit SS and argue about their lost self-respect or wasted time, because they simply do not depend on the money from SS. In times of corona I do more than ever before.
I am self-reliant, I am self-employed, I am proud of me and I am getting the respect from my family and people around me. Ten US cents here might be more then 10 Dollars in rich countries. In my eyes protest against SS is as useless as anything. And I am wondering where this hate and ire comes from?
If people with provoking opinions are called TROLLs, I am one of them.

Your position might be representative of other artists from underdeveloped countries who find image uploading to SS still worthwhile. Taking that into perspective and the low quality of new images being uploaded, SS may gradually become a go-to outlet for acceptance and distribution of the art work from the third world countries. If SS gets sold and the new owner moves their offices from the Empire State building to somewhere in central Africa, that could further reduce SS expenses and improve their bottom line.

Oringer has made no secret of the fact that he sees SS as a marketplace for people in poor countries to sell images to people in rich countries. He stated as much years ago. I have to find his quote.

The second question is a nonsense, if you read it carefully. Are actions realistic? Did she mean are expected results of these actions realistic? Or did she mean are actions real? Actions are real, few millions of pictures are disabled and the number of weekly submitted pictures is halved.
On the other hand, I don't agree with the statement - I don't work for 10c. First of all, it is not 10c that you earn for an image, it is a download. An image can still make a lot more. Secondly, how can one work for 25c or 38c at the first place? It was already ridiculously low. The same way there is a lot of negativity about people still supporting SS by accepting to work for 10c download, there was a lot of negativity about all of us working for 25c-38c by the majority of photography community in the world in the previous years (macrostock photographers, fashion, automotive, real estate, wedding etc photographers). We made this happen. It is our fault. We made this monster called SS. And now we are blaming the ones that are still playing by the rules that we came up with.

Quote from: mike935 on July 27, 2020, 02:44

It is a pity for people who continue to upload their work to Shutterstock. Sometimes this is a very complex work, clearly not worth 10 cents. But smart people say that the whole world is gradually moving towards a slave-owning society. To replace capitalism.

Capitalism supports modern slavery and of course slavery isn't uploading photos to SS and being paid a few cents.  That's not slavery.  This is slavery:

https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/modern-slavery/

Dear Uncle Pete and Georgep7

Thank you for sharing . These are quite interesting topics and to be honest didn't, know that there where Online Sales for Photos and that this was a lucrative business. What are the credentials to be able to make it besides creativity and a good feel of what people are looking for?
For instance, do I need to be a Photographer holding a Diploma or Certificate or can I just be a Hobby Photographer and still be able to make it in this business?

Thank you for your reply and sincerely

Trying to submit and I'm getting all kinds of new warning boxes, like my description matches my title, or it isn't long enough, or "Congratulations" on my unique title, and it seems to be taking my description and adding those words to my keywords...

I had quoted the above post by Pauws but this requires a new post since it's not specifically directed at anyone so Tyler, please delete previous post.

Here goes:
Right, that's why we joined Microstock, we're all loaded but still needed to sell our work for $0,38 a pop.
You think we don't need the money? Those who take action are just some rich folks?
Some people here, it's written on your foreheads.
At first I thought you guys worked for SS but now I think maybe some of you are just that stupid not to realize what is going on here. You try to make up all sorts of excuses for people to stay on SS probably because you also have your portfolio up and you have to make up an excuse for that right. Irony is many of you can afford to quit SS because it's not even your main income.

I posted this in another thread but will do it again. If we all go back to SS along with those who never left and eventually drive the price down even more then it's game over for everyone, yes including those who can still manage now with a few hundred bucks! So the rich, the poor, the disabled, the smart, the retired, the rational thinking, h.ll even the SS fanclub will be in trouble!
Meanwhile other agencies will follow because if we accept those conditions at SS then why should other agencies pay us more? Why should P5 give us better conditions? Why should Adobe continue to pay us a better cut? Get the picture?

No more jump ship while you can, GAME OVER EVERYWHERE AND FOR EVERYONE!!!

But keep supporting SS, we will all go back and do the same, where can I join the SS fanclub btw?

I think it's possible to make more rather than less revenue from the new Shutterstock earnings structure.

It depends on the quantity of your image sales and what the portion is between subscription and on-demand/single & other.

James Wheeler posted a video about his calculations based on the new earnings structure https://youtu.be/UJT1RqMGHkY

Frankly it was a garbage stock even before this. Something for traders maybe, who play the chart not the investment, that's why it dips and peaks so much. Low volume. Not really even on anyones radar.

Shareholders may actually like this move as they like the idea of less at the bottom for more at the top. But ultimately it will depend on profit margin. People who don't actively invest sometimes don't realize that investing is about growth, not revenue. Same revenue year after year is not a good investment, as that means what you bought the stock for doesn't change, ie you don't make money.

I actually transfer all the money I make (which hasn't been much considering I just got started with stock photography a couple months ago) from stock photography into my stock investment account. Been a photographer for 20 years and actively trade the market for 5. Never even considered this stock. It's just not even talked about, which isn't a good thing.

So many short-minded people in here� 

@astockphotographer088
You should make an anonymous poll at the end of June to collect the datas the way you want and avoid all these loudmouths who already know the end of the story.

Why ya'all keep responding to this troll is beyond me. Just ignore him already, jesus.