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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 26, 2016, 13:00 »
I think no one outside I-stock has any clue how much images will earn and I doubt they know either. But I'm willing to bet it won't be good news.

We have already moved into an era when the majority of images used as content will earn nothing.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 26, 2016, 12:35 »
And many people will write their Ph.D.ˋs about the self created destruction of Gettyimages.

It really depends how you look at it though, doesn't it? It has made a lot of people very wealthy - even whilst sometimes seemingly lurching from crisis to crisis over the past 30 or so years (which is true of almost all agencies - as a result of technology and the ever evolving markets). And it has earned lots of other people very good money - whether as investors or as contributors. Even insignificant plebs like me have done ok out of it.

So it's hardly been a disaster. Granted, today smaller privately owned companies which are closer to their customers and suppliers seem to have the advantage.

Even when RogerMexico (IIRC) was their spindoctor, he'd make announcements, then there would be loads of questions and explanations.

There was never a time when they communicated particularly well or seemed certain where the bus was going. I think that was understandable during the boom years. It was a completely new thing so there wasn't really an obvious route map.

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It's not just about iStock. There are far too many people supplying stock images (and hoping to still get paid). Today most will struggle to earn back what they 'invest' in equipment. And most could probably earn more per hour at McDonalds.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 26, 2016, 08:51 »
If the exclusives will leave istock, there will be another flood of new, awesome images coming into SS ...

I doubt it. On the contributor side, I am fairly certain that I was a more or less typical gold 'exclusive'. But after a while I just gave up. I no longer felt any incentive and there is no point running to stand still when money is involved. RF Microstock is never going to be relatively lucrative again like it was roughly 2006 - 2011. There certainly wouldn't be much point me uploading my old content to SS - and I suspect it would be the same for most other people.

I would still potentially use microstock as a customer - but I don't think it has adapted to current trends and I find it very difficult to find the sort of content I would want to use at either iS or SS. People with iPhones are often making much more natural looking images today.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 25, 2016, 13:38 »
I am going by the numbers, not by what I think has happened based on my interpretation of the market.

I am going by how much the content I use costs to use vs what it used to cost.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 25, 2016, 13:25 »
Price hasn't collapsed at all.

Of course it has, across the image market. Today there is a huge and ever growing quantity of free content available to use - especially content which is shared by the users. That inevitably brings down the average cost.

Today everyone has a camera in their pocket. In 2006 relatively few had a digital camera or adequate bandwidth. And back then there was a significantly greater demand for paid content because we were in a boom economy - often built around blogs and websites. Today much of that web activity has been dropped in favour of Facebook.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 25, 2016, 13:14 »
My earnings there have been halved since they introduced subs...hardly ever make a non-sub sale there any more.

My earning are down by something like $1000 per month since the market peak. I also stopped uploading which obviously also doesn't help.

But I don't blame iStock or Getty (or Shutterstock) for that. The price has collapsed because of the proliferation of content (and because we are no longer in a booming start-up economy or bloggers and new websites). Image is cheap because there is so much of it available. There is no shortage of people who want to be photographers and artists. And today everyone has a a camera in their pocket.

That said - as someone who uses content - it's really hard to find great stuff.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 25, 2016, 12:53 »
Surely nobody is still actually producing microstock for the money? That ship definitely sailed.

:)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: October 25, 2016, 12:43 »
The simple fact that a client can pay so little (10c) for an image through subscriptions sickens me. 

I think that's the flipside of having to wade through so much content in order to find stuff to use. I'm not singling out iStock. The stock sites are bogged down with content. (My own legacy stuff included).

It's really hard to find good content which has been properly keyworded and properly curated. And the more images there are, the less they are worth.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Goodbye Shutterstock
« on: October 23, 2016, 09:00 »
FWIW - using stock photos and vectors, I have found it difficult to find content I want to use at any of the sites.

So much poorly keyworded content is a big issue both with vectors and photos. And the fact that keywording has little way of addressing the style of an image. It gives a real advantage to sites with much less content such as Stocksy. And the free sites such as Unsplash. Even Stocksy is often poorly keyworded - ironically sometimes too few keywords / synonyms.

It's very difficult to find vectors at many of the sites now because of the proliferation of sets representing all of the same elements and therefore keywords. But no standard way of addressing the actual style of the image (eg the thickness of the lines, flatness, simplicity etc). I don't know how other people search but if I want a vector of a thing to use as an icon on a site then I am typically looking for just that thing, as a ready to use svg. And then, potentially, only a few other elements in the same style as ready to use svgs.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Income lose 2013 to 2016
« on: June 10, 2016, 05:50 »
I lost the 35% I had. Never to regain it, and certainly not now. I was so very nearly at 40%.
It was, and still is, extremely disappointing.

It would still have been 35% or 40% of ever lower prices and ever fewer sales in an increasingly saturated market. The old prices were not sustainable for a company of that size, owned by never satisfied investors in a free-for-all market. Only boutiques can charge more. Only by staying small and only by never competing with themselves.

I wonder how the big companies will retain their valuations unless they find something different to sell.


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Income lose 2013 to 2016
« on: June 10, 2016, 04:55 »
If Getty was not run by Greedy bankers they could of kept istock loyalty but they couldn't do it!

It wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome. The market is inevitably over supplied and therefore images are cheap and getting cheaper. Boutique agencies can stand apart from that by staying small.

Big companies don't have the option to downsize. They have investors to satisfy (or disappoint) - they cannot turn themselves back into boutiques. But their cheap content is always going to undermine their own prestige collections. In this respect they are biting their own tails.

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Envato / Re: New envato elements?
« on: June 08, 2016, 02:21 »
it looks like is going to be a competitor to creativemarket....I see fonts, watercolor brushes..yep...

Envato already is a competitor to creativemarket but its categories are split between different brands. Eg - ThemeForest is (arguably) the goto site for commercial WordPress themes and plugins.  The content for Elements is selected only from GraphicRiver (AFAIK).

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It's increasingly difficult to find the right application vectors to buy for some specific keyword at any site because of the proliferation of icon sets - where every individual icon's keyword is included. Search for any individual icon keyword and you are typically presented with huge icons sets which possibly (but not reliably thanks to spamming) contain that one specific thing you are looking for.

It would be very much better if there was a way of linking the search result for a keyword directly to the specific icon which actually matches that keyword. Only then, if that icon looked like it might be okay, we could then look at the rest of the icons in the same style set.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: SSTK: Not A Pretty Picture
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:56 »
The big stock-photo companies which are owned by stockholders and corporate investors were volume businesses of the boom era and are not going to rescue themselves by opening boutiques. Boutique sales are going to be too few to make up for the declining income from volume sales. The big stock-photo companies will instead have to compete for declining revenues on the entry price of subscriptions and the number of images included in an entry level package.

A smaller more focused business with relatively low overheads and no significant debt can do enough business to carry on sustainably by focusing on a higher than average price point - but that volume of boutique trade would never satisfy investors or the markets.

If the author of that piece is correct, there is a lot of money to be made in selling SSTK stock short.  Might be worth a gamble...

For the domestic investor, short selling is seldom/never a serious option because the risk is potentially almost unlimited and disastrous.

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Software / Re: Nik Software Free
« on: March 28, 2016, 10:32 »
or the sales of the plugin are no longer offsetting the cost of maintenance support and development, so they cut it loose. nothing suspicious about that

I think they were buying the team not the product. I doubt they care about the product.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting ready to roll out something similar but better.  Maybe they know that whenever CC 2016 comes out it will break the current Nik tools and they want to get everyone hooked on it so they have to pay for a similar but better plugin for the new Photoshop.

Seems unlikely to me. Google is about selling advertising. Surely Nik talent was about improving Android - which is an advertising platform. No?

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Software / Re: Nik Software Free
« on: March 26, 2016, 17:42 »
I will use it to make better products and more money.

People who don't feel right about that don't need to download NIK and they can sit in their dark gloomy world

Will it annoy you if a stock agency starts giving away for free RF licences for the use of high quality stock?

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Software / Re: Nik Software Free
« on: March 26, 2016, 08:27 »
Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?

None of those products is really free. They all have a competitive business model. You use Chrome and Firefox, for example, in exchange for your use being monetized. It's a become a clich - but you are the product and they sell you to the advertisers.

Nik being free undermines all similar paid-for packages. In the same way as free stock photos undermine the business models of those who still try to sell stock photos. Perhaps that is an inevitable outcome. Perhaps it is crazy to still try to charge for software or content.

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Software / Re: Nik Software Free
« on: March 25, 2016, 15:07 »
Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?

How do you feel about free high quality stock photos? It's the same.

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Software / Re: Nik Software Free
« on: March 25, 2016, 08:32 »
Great news if you like free stuff. Possibly not such great news if you are a developer working on a competing paid product.

It's the same arguments as exist around people giving away photos.

If they were to open source it then that would be a different set of arguments.

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Investors are increasingly tired of hearing about "crowdsourcing" && build-it-and-they-will-come cargo cult scenarios.

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I agree about the need for well curated content. I disagree that Pinterest or old fashioned crowdsourcing is a viable route. The agencies need a handful of great curators - not a plethora or people working for peanuts. Quality suppliers will have great curators. That's about a return to a world of small teams of people who are paid properly and know their suppliers.

The sort of person who might be a great curator might very likely be active on tumblr or Pinterest. The same as creative people often use these as a way of gathering and storyboarding ideas. But that does not mean that Pinterest is a solution per se. And the business of selling images is not ripe for major investment in this economy.

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Actually I am surprised Adobe hasnt bought pininterest yet.

Pinterest is never going to be about selling images. It's potentially about using images to sell actual stuff - but mostly it is about propagating brand awareness. And the margins, if they exist, are going to be incredibly thin. Adobe, by contrast, still has an actual business.

i dont understand why they are not working on crowd based collection building.

The era when this might have had investor potential has long since passed.

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You just have to look much harder on the mciros because their collections are not filtered.

I spent much of last week, on and off, looking for potential icons. Finally I gave gave up. The biggest issues - keyword spam and out of date style from the skeuomorphic era. Or, worse, comedy.

It's a while since I searched for photos - but it is becoming increasingly difficult to find good icons under the mountain of old fashioned spammed content. It's as if the sites have given up putting the contemporary stuff in front of the search or editing the keywords for relevance.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Dreamstime account hacked :(
« on: December 13, 2015, 06:06 »
The question is, how could someone hack your account

Typically the user's own security is the issue when accounts get hacked. Maybe they accessed their account via unencrypted shared public wifi, or using compromised proxies. Or a Windows  or Android device they used has malware.

PS after this incident i changed all my paswords on every stock site including mail.

Unless you know how the account was compromised this may not be adequate.

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Software / Re: Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitan and Lightroom Problems
« on: December 06, 2015, 14:49 »
I recommend before upgrading to a new OS is to clone your entire machine onto an external usb hard drive.


I agree. SuperDuper is excellent for that. You don't have to pay but if you agree that it is excellent then you should. You can also boot and run from a cloned drive in the event of a drive failure.

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