Quote from: topol on October 08, 2018, 06:49

Noticed a pattern when reading about htis os SS forums, ppl who are happy with the changes seems to have very amateurish of not downright questionable content, ppl who's DLs are down seem to have very professional ports.

Seems buyers might not agree.........I'm not sure anyone is actually happy with the way SS have gone recently they just don't take it as if SS have some personal vendetta against them and are deliberately trashing their own profits just to spite them.

Maybe, but imho there are 2 things more pro contributors often forget:

- Many if not most of the buyers aren't very refined taste ppl. Few of my super best sellers are downright lame if not some of my worst shots. Whenever they pop up for me on the net somewhere, I still can't get what . they like about them.

- In such a huge system with so many merchandise and customers, you can sneakily 'force' things on ppl quite effectively without them noticing for a long time, like google skewing search results either for marketing or political reasons.

Noticed a pattern when reading about htis os SS forums, ppl who are happy with the changes seems to have very amateurish of not downright questionable content, ppl who's DLs are down seem to have very professional ports.

Quote from: topol on September 29, 2017, 04:55

Ohh, man, you look through history and you see those 100s of millons of peple killed by children's book and teen magazine publishers, cosmetics companies... ohh wait, that was people getting slaughtered by their own governments when those turned to oppression. Dude, you level of education about pretty basic facts of the world is... I don't even know. It's low. LOW.

You couldn't be more wrong about my knowledge of history, politics and world facts. And I also suffered the effect of an oppressive government, the consequences of war, and live in a country totally controlled by no-elected powers, despite free elections.

What happens is that I don't keep staring to my bellybutton all the time thinking the world revolves around it and my own selfish interests.

As for that constant oppression speech you better find professional help. You may think you escaped from oppression to a free-for-all and help-yourself world where Wild-West laws apply, but you are wrong. Although I recognize that passing from an oppressive government system to a Mafia controlled state may give you that impression.

The largest number of people were slaughtered by their governments, nothing comes even close to compete, it's a simple historical fact.

Quote from: topol on September 29, 2017, 05:31

Quote from: Shelma1 on September 29, 2017, 05:16

It's funny how you all decry the obesity epidemic but feel people should have the personal fortitude to not be influenced by images of unnaturally thin women.

Both problems stem from societal pressure. If you honestly think impressionable children and young girls should have the sense not to try to starve themselves, then surely all full grown adults should have the common sense to adopt a vegan diet.

After all, studies have shown vegans have the healthiest body weight, fewer diet-related illnesses like heart disease, cancer and diabetes, and we all know meat production adds just as much to climate change as the transportation industry. Everyone knows we'd meet our climate change goals if we simply stopped eating meat.

Since you're all sensible adults, I'm sure each of you has been vegan for quite a while now. None of you falls for marketing from meat and dairy producers. You're not tempted by fatty, salty foods. You've never eaten in a fast food restaurant. Sure, you're inundated with advertising for all that stuff, but you're smart enough to ignore it.

You all maintain a healthy diet and a healthy weight, get regular exercise, own the most sensible electric cars (no flashy gas guzzling sports cars for you..too smart to fall for that!).

Advertising definitely doesn't work, and it has no influence on people. Which is why I made a quite nice living working in the advertising industry. It was fun, going to focus groups and seeing how none of our messages made any impact! Ha ha !

And images don't influence people, and societal pressure doesn't affect the images you shoot, which is why you're furious that you can't photoshop skinny women into being even skinnier.

So people getting too thin is societal problem equal to obesity? yes/no

Show me those unnaturally thin women in recent ads... pics, links, etc, thanks

"why you're furious that you can't photoshop skinny women into being even skinnier."

Please show an example where I photoshopped a "skinny women into being even skinnier", thanks

Also if images/ads influence people so strongly + create societal pressure, and super-thin-nes is being pushed, how come we are in the middle of a severe obesity crisis? Could you untangle this logical knot for me, thanks

I just untangled it for you. You should re-calibrate your reading comprehension and oil your sarcasm detector.

I did notice your attempts at humor about advertising, but you don't seem to able to answer anything.

The newly elected French government has another 3.5 years or so to find out that banning liquifying will not make the �children, teenagers and young adults� feel better about themselves. In fact. I am pretty sure the opposite will be the case.

This basically already happened. The war on 'model industry thin-nes' is something like a decade old scam now. When it got some traction, the 'thin-thing' got promtply replaced by the truly surreal and naturally completely unachievable nicky minaj-type blow-up doll look, and you have poor ghetto girls dead from cheap toxic butt implants.

The urge to compete is the most basic instinct of all. If you ban competing on slenderness, they compete on ridiculous implants, if you ban that too, they will compete on something even more surreal. Finally if you ban competing on almost everything, kids will compete on doing self harm and start cutting themselves. Hence the world record number of teen suicides in commie countries.

And instead of being obsessed with women having huge breasts, by either photoshop or surgery, why has it not occurred to you that perhaps society should accept that women have different breast sizes?

since when society does not accept and adore women with all kind of breasts? One of the dumbest prole myths ever. Why do people like you come full out lying full throttle about things you can check on the net / IRL? Once again a thing that only exists in your skewed mind. Men's taste are so varied that you can literally build a business on running porn/sex sites that caters specifically to admirers of very thin girls, one that caters specifically to admirers of voluptuous girls, one that caters specifically to admirers of fat girls. They are all out there, so quit your nonsense. There is no point lying about stuff that the world contradicts in 0.0001 sec if you check. 

On IRL stuff, I have 3 best selling models. One is an italian looking, tiny (about 150 cm), voluptuous-type girl, she is slender but has a really big butt, strong cleavage (not huge breasts at all, just nice), and amazing sweet face with a million dollar smile. Second one is the exact model type, tall, very long legged, not flat chested but has smallish breasts, looks athletic, if she lost a bit more weight she would look "shredded". Third is also small like the first one, but she is also athletic, tiny breasts on tiny body. The only reason she doesn't look really fragile is because she works out and she has muscles. Do you know what they have in common? Men of all shapes and sizes and status adore them. They literally have 100+ of men to choose from that would drop everything and run to date them at a moments notice, they are often telling me some of the stories. One of them got hit on by yoshi form japanx. Other one has been courted for months now by the son of a billionaire winemaker, the guy looks and lives like james bond... just to know, we are not talking about your usual desperate men who would fk anything that moves. How does that fit into your tiny world of supposed huge-breast obsession?

The women you talk about get the huge breasts for other women, not for men, to make them envious. That's how they compete with each other because they are the type of women who have nothing else to compete with. As for the section of men who do like those huge breasts: it's not even about sex, they have mommy complexes. They want to suckle and feel secure

Quote from: topol on September 28, 2017, 08:16

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on September 28, 2017, 08:02

Quote from: topol on September 28, 2017, 07:40

I grew up in a communist country. This whole thing straightforward reminds me of what the commies did to art and portrayal of people in art and commerce. It was the proletariat, the "workers paradise" so on almost all depiction, especially public statues and painting, they hand to be these chunky, robust characters with cubic heads and large thick hands, women having the same large thick hands as men. Sad to see the total cluelessness to the point of mental degeneration in western ppl, probably coming from near zero history education, not noticing what their culture is sliding into ever more rapidly. It will be sad, bleak and painful, believe me.

Despite this incredible lack of education & knowledge about humanity's history, I still don't see why it is so hard recognize the severe threat when you such ideologies rapidly invading every field of life, flooding everything with dictates. When you see that either push back as hard as you can, or if you can't.... run!

I'll have what you're smoking!

12yaerold's copy paste answer.  "Am I cool yet? Am I cool yet?" This isn't youtube.

I'll have you know, I typed that all out myself; thank you very much. I'm just curious how Getty Images no longer accepting retouched body shapes, and people's comments on the situation... is down to 'total cluelessness to the point of mental degeneration', 'near zero history education' and an 'incredible lack of education & knowledge about humanity's history'? That's maybe a little bit extreme!

No it's not, your are clueless. Take your time to listen to this, not that long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xss0vC3mRfE

If you don't see the connection with the discussion here (which is trivial to be honest), than obviously we have nothing to talk about.

Quote from: topol on September 28, 2017, 07:40

I grew up in a communist country. This whole thing straightforward reminds me of what the commies did to art and portrayal of people in art and commerce. It was the proletariat, the "workers paradise" so on almost all depiction, especially public statues and painting, they hand to be these chunky, robust characters with cubic heads and large thick hands, women having the same large thick hands as men. Sad to see the total cluelessness to the point of mental degeneration in western ppl, probably coming from near zero history education, not noticing what their culture is sliding into ever more rapidly. It will be sad, bleak and painful, believe me.

Despite this incredible lack of education & knowledge about humanity's history, I still don't see why it is so hard recognize the severe threat when you such ideologies rapidly invading every field of life, flooding everything with dictates. When you see that either push back as hard as you can, or if you can't.... run!

I'll have what you're smoking!

12yaerold's copy paste answer.  "Am I cool yet? Am I cool yet?" This isn't youtube.

There are MILLIONS of slim girls out there, and people here talk like they are an endangered species! Incredible!

The truth is, for some people on this forum the use of the word "Slim" actually means anorexic and even alien with impossible long legs. You are just masquerading your actual preference with a "political correct" term. Not different from obese people wanting to be called plus size, or BBW or whatever.

Anorexic girls with visible rib cages, protruding collarbones with a non-existent stomach and sucked in faces are NOT slim! Stop calling them that! As I said, there are MILLIONS of slim girls out there. Hit the gym at any hour and you get to see more slim girls than in any model agency casting. Those are slim girls, not anorexic ones you try to pass as slim.

As for the nanny state comments they are simply absurd. Unless you live in a civil war zone, you all live in nanny states. One more than others, but all states are nanny's. We all have to comply with thousands of rules and laws created to protect people from others actions.

To take in such disregard the health of younger generations by neglecting the education through positive row models, good examples and best practices is absurd.

Put it in your heads, young boys and girls are very easily influenced. They tend to follow what is considered cool with extremely limited critical spirit. So, like parents need to educate their young, the society as a whole (through state) also needs to take some measures to educate and protect their young.

That's why the consumption of alcohol, driving, and thousands of other examples are restricted for younger people. All this commotion about a couple stupid clicks in photoshop is absolute non-sense.

This has nothing to do with the promotion and acceptance of obesity as normal. That's another war altogether. And I agree with all the criticism here about the way obesity is starting to be seen as normal, and even beautiful and it's almost forbidden to criticize it. But it's another issue.

The truth is, if you're complaining about not being able to make a couple adjustments in photoshop, that means that the girl you've photographed is already beautiful to the point you only need a couple adjustments! Just leave it be.

It's not like you're photographing a 300kg woman to make her look 50kg! This is absolute non-sense.

"Anorexic girls with visible rib cages, protruding collarbones"

The only reason for those bones not be visible is severe obesity. For your ribs / rib muscles not show you have to be really-really fat my friend. You and others need to catch up on human anatomy and standards of health. I guess his is what happens to people when they grow up in a society where obesity is the norm. Prime example is women (usually misandric ones) going around showing pics of Marilyn Monroe saying, " look this the true normal for being hot, she was size 'M' ". Then someone comes in and reminds them that Marilyn's size "M" clothes would be "XS" now, as the size charts adopted to most of society becoming FAT. Even the BMI chart got modified, os it doesn't bother people so much in the process of eating themselves to death. Meanwhile Obesity is the biggest, most tragic epidemic in the world.

Its not about "fat" its about borderline anorexic  being portrayed as a desirable body shape...the industry only has itself to blame for this "over correction"

Its not about "anorexic" its about borderline obese being portrayed as a normal body shape... the society only has itself to blame for this "correction"

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Same, I wrote them back asking for further info about licenses and possible income. After reading the "info" on the site, I have 0 trust in this.

This is 100% definitely a trap for the naive. They say customers can have images forever for a very low cost, and also that they give 100% for the contributor, which is impossible - meaning someone is getting screwed... guess who. Even if they really are operating at a loss now, the thing they might do is just wait until enough quality stock accumulates on the 'marketplace', then you get an email that 'for certain business considerations' they have to move everything to the subscription part, and the possibility for all of this to happen was in the contract, why didn't you read it word-by-word accompanied by lawyers.

Quote from: flywing on November 10, 2016, 18:52

Looks like they love experimenting. They're probably testing to see if just sheer number of images will bring in more sales. And if they don't like the result, they could just put the Premier Select platform on top of the standard collection for all buyers, just a guess.

Not a bad guess, but it's a bit more incremental than that.

They don't have to premier select, that's what the search engine si for. The only reason for that is having some different pricing scheme, and they already have that: offset.