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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 04, 2019, 09:56 »
just to say one run in taxi in center cost 1 dollar at the moment with uber...in paris when the taxi arrived you have already spent 8 euro.then 3 km and 15 euro gone forever....that's easy to understand why living with stock in paris rome london is pretty impossible att the moment.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 04, 2019, 09:54 »
Well, it depends on the type of microstock you're doing. I'm based in Southeastern Europe, mainly shooting editorial and travel.

The demand for southeastern Europe in these fields is actually incredibly low. So, shooting more or less the same topics, I get some significantly different performance.

In average, my RPI for a picture taken in the Balkans is almost three times lower than for a file taken in Germany, and between 5 to 6 times lower than for a Canadian picture. If I check my photos taken in Ukraine, it's even worse: the RPI is half the one of Balkans...

In the end, depending on what you shoot, there may still be a potential for you, even in a developed country, due to the much bigger demand.

the problem is no the rip is cost of life...in balkans you can live and not bad with 1000 dollar..in kiev the cost of life is even lower...in eurpope you need to run a business at least 6 70 k dollar, and at the end you not earn a lot....that's why if you want live a normal life with micro you better move to a country with that cost of life...7k dollar of files per month at this point are not a joke i tell you.

With 1000$ a month from stock you are the king in Serbia, firstly you don't have to deal with half-literate bosses and that's a major life improvement. People manage with 300$ a month, pretty decent, with a lot of pressure but still decent. But you have to have a balkan mentality sort of, so no classy restaurants everyday, no new V6 car, not the latest pro camera gear etc. With that, 1000$ makes your life easy, you get to buy stuff, travel and not worry about life in general all while doing what you love and not double shifts for your greedy boss. Avoid Belgrade, where everything is more expensive for no reason and where you throw you time in a black hole called public transport or looking for parking spot - and you are golden.

novi sad is very good...next year will move permanently between russia ukraine and belgrade, in winter warm place like colombia and thailand...litterally thousand model, cheap, production cost very low....yeterday a girl know in street asked me 300 euro for a shooting of 2 hours...i laugh at her. but reallyy the problem is that where i live or you go agency or there is no point in finding model....when i walk in kiev i literally know 20 girl each day who are super happy to do shooting mostly for free...and as i said they are naturally blessed with a super attitude in front of camera. but time to stop talking or next year we will see thousand of stockers moving to kiev or belgrade

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 04, 2019, 08:25 »
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&country2=Serbia&city1=Paris&city2=Belgrade&tracking=getDispatchComparison

just an easy comparison...considering the fact this data is not perfect...

the salary comparison is 2100 euro against 400 euro, in ukraine is even worst probably like 250 euro. and in russia outside moscow is comparable to belagrade...you understand that even if you earn 700 dollar is not bad in belgrade, thats why there are thousand contributor, it's still better to shoot micro than works macdonald....in the rest of the world is better mcdonald:)...by the way a mcdonald employer in kiev earn less than 200 dollar. it's fact. than there will be some isolated cases who can earn a lot even in western world, but for example lifestyle portfolio are completely coming in these days from those country, just make a search or look at the new files in fotolia, most are russian. so move there if you like shooting lifestyle,

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 04, 2019, 08:20 »
Well, it depends on the type of microstock you're doing. I'm based in Southeastern Europe, mainly shooting editorial and travel.

The demand for southeastern Europe in these fields is actually incredibly low. So, shooting more or less the same topics, I get some significantly different performance.

In average, my RPI for a picture taken in the Balkans is almost three times lower than for a file taken in Germany, and between 5 to 6 times lower than for a Canadian picture. If I check my photos taken in Ukraine, it's even worse: the RPI is half the one of Balkans...

In the end, depending on what you shoot, there may still be a potential for you, even in a developed country, due to the much bigger demand.

i shoot travel also, and is true i have lot of ukraine files ready to sell especially aerial, but they are not in high demand...if you live in balkans better you shoot lifestyle.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 04, 2019, 08:18 »
Well, it depends on the type of microstock you're doing. I'm based in Southeastern Europe, mainly shooting editorial and travel.

The demand for southeastern Europe in these fields is actually incredibly low. So, shooting more or less the same topics, I get some significantly different performance.

In average, my RPI for a picture taken in the Balkans is almost three times lower than for a file taken in Germany, and between 5 to 6 times lower than for a Canadian picture. If I check my photos taken in Ukraine, it's even worse: the RPI is half the one of Balkans...

In the end, depending on what you shoot, there may still be a potential for you, even in a developed country, due to the much bigger demand.

the problem is no the rip is cost of life...in balkans you can live and not bad with 1000 dollar..in kiev the cost of life is even lower...in eurpope you need to run a business at least 6 70 k dollar, and at the end you not earn a lot....that's why if you want live a normal life with micro you better move to a country with that cost of life...7k dollar of files per month at this point are not a joke i tell you.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 03, 2019, 17:11 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

Show me your data collection for 2019? You know, locations, number of artists, image totals for top 20 maybe?

Thanks for the filler on Andorra I never would have known. Here's some things I found which I'd say I still don't know much about Andorra. Andorra, according to the World Bank, is among top 15 countries with the highest GDP per capita. ... According to International living index, Andorra is a 12-th position in the world in terms of level and quality of life. Andorra is often considered as one of the safest countries in the world, and Andorra La Vella one of the safest European cities. The most used language is English, 38.8% of the Andorran population speak Catalan. To date, there are 516 Russians in Andorra. The immigration policy of the Principality is under control, and the number of immigrants is strictly quoted according to demands of the economy.

The link for "house poe production born after 2017" whatever that means, doesn't show anything. Got a link that works?  ;)

Reminder, true the location could be a lie and many accounts list no location. We don't know. This is simple the best information to indicate who has the largest accounts and where they are from. I don't know if SS actually checks the listed location. What I mean is, this is the best data available, if someone has better, please show us.

The data used for artists location was the 18,000 accounts that had over 1,000 images on SS at the time. Of course that could have changed, but the selection was designed to represent active contributors, not 300,000 accounts registered. (as an example, the number is now over 500,000)

But the question remains, show me your data, numbers and proof?

well don't have data but is pretty easy to see the influence of russia ukraine and serbia in  the database.. zillions of file...just search any lifestyle idea you will see the predominance of house of production born in eastern europe

the link is light field fotolia google it...it's from kiev in ukraine...450000 file in less than 2 years...they have many people working salary less than 600 dollar....model super cheap...try replicate it in usa. in serbia there is

https://shootset.com/search?p=22&sort=recommended&country=Serbia&radius=10

is a stock model agency...if you ever have browsed lifestyle content in fotolia with model release you will recognize thousand of photos with the same 10 20 model of this agency....
it's not that they love doing photos more than us...it's their cost areas cheap is still good to shoot lifestyle content....in italy good model cost 10 times the price i pay in ukraine....where i pay 10 dollarr hour and it's already much more than what many stocker from kiev pay.

In Serbia you pay 30$ for an average model but no model works for less than 20$ these days. Some with more experience have a wage as high as 65$/hr. So its pretty easy to see that an average set with 7-8 models will cost you around 1k. Not very expensive but not darn cheap either.

in serbia cost of life is one 4 of the rest of world...renting space is one tenth...model cost 30 dollar but you can find pretty darn good for 10 15 dollar.... it's not you or other serbian have more wish to shot is that you have cost 23 4 times inferior to the rest of the world...it's like producing cheap items in america or in china, it's not competitive for usa because cost are higher is the same....that'0s why most of house of production are in serbia russia and ukraine.
you have a portfolio that would have cost 5 times more than what you paid and you did in less than 2 3 year, try to work and produce such a portfolio in uk or italy ,, then you will see how much you would have earned and if you would have shot micro stock for living.....anyway next year i will move to belagreade for 2 months...already contacted many models from that agency and 30 dollar are for top notch model , other are happy with much less.

Its not that I am not aware of the costs of living in other countries as I live in an EU country with costs of life being a lot higher compared to Serbia. That is the exact reason I go to shoot there. I just wanted to clarify the costs of a set over there. What used to be 15 usd 2-3 years ago, its 30-50 today.  But hating people for living in 3rd world countries just because they can produce content for less is like hating people paying low taxes in Virgin Islands. Btw living in a 3rd world country isnt necessarily great in some other aspects.

Im not here to argue, I justposted facts but Im out.
nobody is hating...is just explanation why people in western world probably won't succeed in living put of micro stock...there is simply too much competition and too high cost in western world.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 03, 2019, 12:12 »
there are many russian contributor that use other country, spain italy...i think they do these linked to the situation between russia and western world, maybe they think customer will not buy them or for tax reason....it's pretty easy to spot them,.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 03, 2019, 12:11 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

Show me your data collection for 2019? You know, locations, number of artists, image totals for top 20 maybe?

Thanks for the filler on Andorra I never would have known. Here's some things I found which I'd say I still don't know much about Andorra. Andorra, according to the World Bank, is among top 15 countries with the highest GDP per capita. ... According to International living index, Andorra is a 12-th position in the world in terms of level and quality of life. Andorra is often considered as one of the safest countries in the world, and Andorra La Vella one of the safest European cities. The most used language is English, 38.8% of the Andorran population speak Catalan. To date, there are 516 Russians in Andorra. The immigration policy of the Principality is under control, and the number of immigrants is strictly quoted according to demands of the economy.

The link for "house poe production born after 2017" whatever that means, doesn't show anything. Got a link that works?  ;)

Reminder, true the location could be a lie and many accounts list no location. We don't know. This is simple the best information to indicate who has the largest accounts and where they are from. I don't know if SS actually checks the listed location. What I mean is, this is the best data available, if someone has better, please show us.

The data used for artists location was the 18,000 accounts that had over 1,000 images on SS at the time. Of course that could have changed, but the selection was designed to represent active contributors, not 300,000 accounts registered. (as an example, the number is now over 500,000)

But the question remains, show me your data, numbers and proof?

well don't have data but is pretty easy to see the influence of russia ukraine and serbia in  the database.. zillions of file...just search any lifestyle idea you will see the predominance of house of production born in eastern europe

the link is light field fotolia google it...it's from kiev in ukraine...450000 file in less than 2 years...they have many people working salary less than 600 dollar....model super cheap...try replicate it in usa. in serbia there is

https://shootset.com/search?p=22&sort=recommended&country=Serbia&radius=10

is a stock model agency...if you ever have browsed lifestyle content in fotolia with model release you will recognize thousand of photos with the same 10 20 model of this agency....
it's not that they love doing photos more than us...it's their cost areas cheap is still good to shoot lifestyle content....in italy good model cost 10 times the price i pay in ukraine....where i pay 10 dollarr hour and it's already much more than what many stocker from kiev pay.

In Serbia you pay 30$ for an average model but no model works for less than 20$ these days. Some with more experience have a wage as high as 65$/hr. So its pretty easy to see that an average set with 7-8 models will cost you around 1k. Not very expensive but not darn cheap either.

in serbia cost of life is one 4 of the rest of world...renting space is one tenth...model cost 30 dollar but you can find pretty darn good for 10 15 dollar.... it's not you or other serbian have more wish to shot is that you have cost 23 4 times inferior to the rest of the world...it's like producing cheap items in america or in china, it's not competitive for usa because cost are higher is the same....that'0s why most of house of production are in serbia russia and ukraine.
you have a portfolio that would have cost 5 times more than what you paid and you did in less than 2 3 year, try to work and produce such a portfolio in uk or italy ,, then you will see how much you would have earned and if you would have shot micro stock for living.....anyway next year i will move to belagreade for 2 months...already contacted many models from that agency and 30 dollar are for top notch model , other are happy with much less.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 02, 2019, 14:24 »
most of andorra are russian...
:o

yeas miha most are from russian...good trial from new york city..but is legal to shoot those? i know you can0't fly your drone in new york city...flyijng lawless makes trouble soon for less...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 02, 2019, 12:27 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

Show me your data collection for 2019? You know, locations, number of artists, image totals for top 20 maybe?

Thanks for the filler on Andorra I never would have known. Here's some things I found which I'd say I still don't know much about Andorra. Andorra, according to the World Bank, is among top 15 countries with the highest GDP per capita. ... According to International living index, Andorra is a 12-th position in the world in terms of level and quality of life. Andorra is often considered as one of the safest countries in the world, and Andorra La Vella one of the safest European cities. The most used language is English, 38.8% of the Andorran population speak Catalan. To date, there are 516 Russians in Andorra. The immigration policy of the Principality is under control, and the number of immigrants is strictly quoted according to demands of the economy.

The link for "house poe production born after 2017" whatever that means, doesn't show anything. Got a link that works?  ;)

Reminder, true the location could be a lie and many accounts list no location. We don't know. This is simple the best information to indicate who has the largest accounts and where they are from. I don't know if SS actually checks the listed location. What I mean is, this is the best data available, if someone has better, please show us.

The data used for artists location was the 18,000 accounts that had over 1,000 images on SS at the time. Of course that could have changed, but the selection was designed to represent active contributors, not 300,000 accounts registered. (as an example, the number is now over 500,000)

But the question remains, show me your data, numbers and proof?

well don't have data but is pretty easy to see the influence of russia ukraine and serbia in  the database.. zillions of file...just search any lifestyle idea you will see the predominance of house of production born in eastern europe

the link is light field fotolia google it...it's from kiev in ukraine...450000 file in less than 2 years...they have many people working salary less than 600 dollar....model super cheap...try replicate it in usa. in serbia there is

https://shootset.com/search?p=22&sort=recommended&country=Serbia&radius=10

is a stock model agency...if you ever have browsed lifestyle content in fotolia with model release you will recognize thousand of photos with the same 10 20 model of this agency....
it's not that they love doing photos more than us...it's their cost areas cheap is still good to shoot lifestyle content....in italy good model cost 10 times the price i pay in ukraine....where i pay 10 dollarr hour and it's already much more than what many stocker from kiev pay.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 01, 2019, 12:52 »
the list is pretty old, in 2 years everything has changed...actually since 2017 ss open the gate an flooding of images has began...f

https://www.fotolia.com/p/206713618


this is house poe production born after 2017, in less than 2 years and a bunch of months they added half million images, there are much more from serbia and russia....the scheme is simple ,saturated all market, take idea and copycat them using many photographer paid penny,m and good model paid 10 dollar hours maximum. light field has a fully functional studio with lot of room, you can rent for 10 dollar hour if you go kiev to produce.

i have seen many house of production lately are copycatting especially the style and idea of jacob lund.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: November 01, 2019, 12:45 »
most of andorra are russian...actually lot of russian states different country probably due to political reason, they scare buyer are not buying russian content so change name and location...but acuytally for those who know and lived in russia or ukraine is pretty easy to spot them. you forgot serbian, serbia is an enormous hub of production. there is probably the only stock model agency in serbia, and probably some models it account for 100 thousandd images,.
the fact is not they love photography more, simply cost are very low and model infinite, in addiction cost of life a third of western country. so in this condition living out off stock is still possible.

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 sales
« on: October 24, 2019, 16:44 »
Not sure about that with todays pricing.

Yes, pricing isn't low, but i don't see alternatives. Here in Italy you cannot bury your dear in the garden, so you
have to follow the law :)

sure you can survive especially in some years...i suggest to prepare an alternative...personaly stocks this year is only 15 20% of all my photo income...luckily assignment and personal work are still strong especially if you offer quality....if i should earn 6 7k euro per year doing stock, after all expenses and taxes paid good luck...actually how many can tell to earn near 10k euro per month selling stock? it's near 12000 dollar. sure you can live with 1500 euro even in a modern country, but considering the effort is it acceptable'

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 sales
« on: October 24, 2019, 04:31 »

Yes still selling last month, this month

Good to hear, what price range are you selling your clips in ?,  I was shocked to see that HotelFoxtrot appears to be selling all her clips at $59 now.
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why shocked?= video is the next dead thing...or people believe to live all life earning a lot per video sales, with a couple thousand video?
everybody is shooting video, bigger producer from eastern europe are moving their production towards video...soon there will be the same saturation and the same price for video as was photo. milk till it last is my suggestion don't hope to earn the same, if not producing thousand and thousand of video per year....and the fact that a super company like hotel is struggling, they make a site where they give all collection for penny if i remember correctly, and move all new production to cheaper drone content should tell those who believe video will be immune from the downward trend. no it's not immune and price soon will collapse to a bunch of dollar per download.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: October 23, 2019, 06:00 »
https://www.shutterstock.com/it/g/belchonock

and because 1300000 was not enough they add

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/newafrica

so 1.800.000 files only by one producer from ukraine, i think dnipro or kharkiv not kiev....they can do this cause they have salary as low was 300 400 dollar and model cost nothing.
try do this in europe or usa.

in kiev light field project is both a studio and shutter stock provider you can search...another 400 thousand images, and there at least 10 more of this size and a lot more from 50 to 100k files...and we are already at what 2 3 percent of all database of ss.
i'm sure usa contributor don't even reach 3 4 million images.

i always said this is a business you can run in long term only in those country apart rare cases of 3 4 contributor

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: October 23, 2019, 05:55 »
Just checked some 2020 concepts and almost all images I checked were from contributors from Thailand, some Russia, not one from America or Europe.

Sorry but you got to be pretty naive, hmm let me rephrase pretty d.mn stupid to think there isn't something else at play here. So my suggestion to all is put Thailand, Russia, Croatia, India, etc... as your location in your profile et voila problem solved!  :o

Seriously why do we even bother anymore if they only push those people in search?
Do you have any data on the proportion of new images from those places?

data data ...check some profile....most of over 50000 are from those country is easy,,.....there was a site once some years ago with ranking of contributor for country...ukraine only had like 8 10 of pages with more than 2 3 million images...we are talking about some years ago..
in addiction every article ss publish has probably 50 60 % of photos from russian contributor...it's not they are better...it's that living and producing in those country, russia outside moscow clearly is 2 3 times cheap, in ukraine even 4 times, so that's why they keep producing thousand of files...even with 1000 dollar net they earn much more than many normal jobs....where i live you live under a bridge with 1000 dollar....it's simple to understand....just search lifestyle theme and you will see how many contributor are form russia....i hope trump blocked them also:), joking,.....
i shoot in ukraine sometimes....it's 8 dollar hour to rent a super studio and free or max 15 dollar hours for model, ranging from inexperienced to experienced, any case trained all life to be beautiful and photogenic in front of camera.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: September numbers...
« on: October 18, 2019, 11:56 »
stop uploading to stock they are killing micro sock together with unspalsh....connect is a scum fraud...is make to just kill the sale of other site like adobe and ss....
a lot of small blog site pay nothing with connect and just ink the image in stock and avoid subs of ss or adobe or buy on demand....it's a fraud to kill other sites, nobody knows why they did this, it's for killing the competition giving free the content to small buyers while keeping strongly the enterprise side of business.
s personally i don't upload anymore nothing and i'm planning to cancel mu account...i will lost something but i'm sure i will gain from other sites. royalty of 2 4 cent are an insult to photography. giving thousand of connect image for 0,01 cent is even worst..

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: September numbers...
« on: October 17, 2019, 14:55 »
Looks like they are out.

nt even the time to upload some files they are worth...simple with 15% royalty and that level of royalty you cannot earn money even selling 2000 files per months... soon stock will be a dead industry...i thought less soon that actually it's going down...i thought we had more time to collect money. i was wrong...s

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: October 17, 2019, 14:53 »
For me new images sell after a few days/weeks, but new videos take at least 6 month to roll out.
But overall, i'm happy with my earnings, growing every year. Full time since 2012. I live in Italy (Expensive North Italy).
Honestly, i think that if you are a photographer you are out of game due to competition (unless your are a top one with
expensive models and locations or if you have a niche). The future is movie quality footage and stills.
Yes, lot of expenses, but i know several people doing well, so...
Alternatives? motion graphics, cg animations, templates. This is a dynamic business and i think that you must adapt to it to
be succesful. This is what i'm trying to do.
Best wishes to all!  :)

because you think that movie or cgi or motion design will give u forever 29 dollar 39  79...ahahah good luck soon you will realize the hard truth...video like photos will be sold for penny and competition will kill your earning...it's the same as photos, you can see already agency going sub, selling video for penny, soon even video will be a complete disaster.
alternative is a business made with direct customer who pay lot of money for single job.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: October 17, 2019, 13:16 »
Given the number of new images coming onto the market compared with slow growth in demand   if sales for most contributors weren't going down that would be strong evidence that sales were controlled. Certainly some suffer more than others. Whether that is by design, random results of algorithm changes or changing customer demand is speculation unless you have a source in shutterstock or access to their data.

i think if i had a proof they are capping me so breaking the contract i signed where there was no mention of a  cap...i would go to my advocate and they will be sued the second after i have the 100% confirmation...and i think many will do this..

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Zero sales of new files
« on: October 17, 2019, 06:10 »
Nothing new sells for me.

Same here Angela. Funny how people are able to view your work yet still put silly comments like changing subject matter or improving on quality. Or maybe those who make 100 to 500 dollars on 5k to +10k images can tell us how we should conduct our business.

Obviously something else is at work here but then that makes you a conspiracy theorist, so you cant win, just shut up and take your place in the corner while you get ripped off.

There is no doubt about it that our earnings are being controlled, the only question is to what extend. My personal experience and what I have seen and read on their forum tells me this can go pretty far.
There is also no doubt that reviewers have a lot more control over our work (exposure) then we might think.
I even think SS staff (higher up the ladder) doesnt have a clue what goes on behind the scene but as long as the money keeps coming in it probably doesn't matter anyway.

I recently read a message from Leaf mentioning he could once live from stock but that his earnings have halved in the past few years which makes it unsustainable.
Are you telling me the guy who created this forum and has a lot of knowledge of the stock photography business is suddenly clueless? Same with Sean btw

It is so disheartening to see the people that were very successful in the past suddenly became useless to these libraries. Its also disheartening to see these people just gave up without a fight. Angela is amongst the very few and brave contributors I see coming forward with this but who cares right, what does she know?

Ive seen many come and go, bragging about their (short term) success here or on Shutterstock forum, it is quite hilarious. Now it is even better with new contributors telling experienced contributors what to do while they only make a tiny fraction of their earnings. Mind you there are still people making good money in stock but they are amongst the very few and lucky people.

These libraries want you to be unique so you try to upload unique work. What happens next is that your work gets buried somewhere never to be seen again so what does this forces us to do? copy other popular topics/images like everyone else but then this is also a lost cause because we cant have a slice of their pie. One can still make money with a niche but hardly a full time or even half time income so for most this is a waste of time.

But keep the faith! its all just a coincidence, nah its the competition, no wait its your work thats below standards, hmm no wait, youre not uploading 100 images a day? thats why!  ::)

Dont give up on your work Angela. We (photographers, videographers, illustrators) are artists foremost. These libraries and even some fellow contributors have a good way to demoralize yourself and your work but dont let that get to you. Keep creating even if it was only for you or your family, friends and followers. I know this doesnt put food on the table but it will eventually turn out well somehow, somewhere! We cant keep putting our hopes into these libraries though, we have to move elsewhere, move forward, trying new things and try to take matter in our own hands!

bravo! i agree 100%...our sales are clearly completely controlled.

you can live now with stockk mostly if you live in second tier country...is not a case the abundance of files and house of production from serbia russia thailand and ukraine..i'd say they account for more than 40% of the ss library....they pay nothing produce, low taxes, if they exist o they are paid, and cost of life that is 3 4 times less than italy usa france. it's still possible to live with micro stock in those country...in a western country where

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: October 15, 2019, 08:25 »
rejections are not a problems..the problems is the collapsing of sale over 38 cent...rpd is collapsing...i don't care if they reject something....all in all most new content don'tsell at all because nobody is so idiot to search for new files...make any search first with new then with relevant...who in the world would mess looking for a usable file using the new tabs?...the problem is 99 % of sale are sub. and not only here in general...i'm up 35 % sale in all agency down 200 % in terms of dollar so far...i need 10 times more images sold than last year to match the dollar. time to ficus n rm for agency like westend and offset...microstock is collapsing.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: October 14, 2019, 10:53 »
since the similar policies i have probably 0,5% rejected for being similar..maybe you should review better your content.
Then I guess maybe other agencies who accept and buyers who buy that "similar" content should review their needs better.

this has nothing to do with similar content...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: October 14, 2019, 10:23 »
in the last month 750 uploaded near 735 accepted, and i shoot also food in series and some are similar but still different in terms of composition and usability....so maybe it's not the reviewer...the problem is they simply don't sell nothing zero...zero enhanced video..nothing...the more you upload the less earn...while for example adobe i sssellin g great and the new editorial policy make me sell much more..only now three images from dubai for 4,44 dollar each, while in ss 99 % ar subs...i wait impatiently the next quarter of ss to understand what's happening with them..i suspect is not my portfolio...i have literally thousand good images fo christmas..nothing sells, only the same old stuff...with relevant they killed all new files in practice.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: October 14, 2019, 10:22 »
since the similar policies i have probably 0,5% rejected for being similar..maybe you should review better your content.

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