Quote from: jonbull on July 13, 2019, 07:11

can somebody explain?
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/97747-my-quest-for-10000-images-before-the-end-of-2019/

first this puppet who believe to be a master of photography while he doesn't have a clue what is talking abut...7000 of snapshots repetition technically applying images...asomebody who earn probably 20 dollar month and claim to be a super expert...

Grossinger once admitted on the SS forum that when he had over 3000 photos in his port, he had made less than $100. I wouldn't exactly call that impressive for a port of that size.

this guy is a joke of nature...and those who admire hm have portfolio even more mediocre and probably not even manage to reach 10 dollar a months. those people probably suffer off solitude...they need those joke forum to fill their day because really i cannot understand spending time to earn a bunch of dollar and complaint that their 400 hundreds terrible photos don't sell everyday...another to follow is the desperate marbury king of doom and gloom thread,

sometimes i ask myself if they troll or really are surprised not to sell andy photos.
but the problem i m feeling ashamed to contribute to the same agency of those people. it's really depressing.

After reading billions of posts here with contributors telling that agency did not make their work refusing or ban users that send thousand of similar subject... Now Adobe is working on this, and many of you have to say that is not right???

Well I'm happy that agency is doing good job on content.

selling two version of a video is not at all spamming and can have a market.....the point is they have lot of works to do especially hopefully stop accepting every crap uploaded in these days before occupying of people uploading two versions of the same files.

Quote from: cathyslife on July 08, 2019, 15:58

Quote from: Rasika on July 08, 2019, 15:49

I am not submitting images for 2 years, so we are talking about footage. And I have about 10,000 videos in my Adobe stock portfolio, so there is no way I can know which of the files they found to be problematic.
Now, don't get me wrong, I am not insisting I am right. The problem is they can at least let you know, something is not fit for them, or any other issue.
If you don't want it, you can just reject it and say "sorry, this is similar" etc. I wrote them 3 days ago asking to work this out/show me where is the problem/have any communication, but no replay so far.

You don�t know which files you just made color changes to, or you just don�t want to be bothered sorting them out? And they did let you know, before you even starting uploading! You are learning the hard way, unfortunately.

Do you know the difference between graded footage and raw footage?

Im with you. People talk without not knowing nothing. Offering a graded and a non graded is a smart move and not spamming at all. Tjose who want a graded version and not want to work on ungraded are served and those who knlw hkw to grade buy the ungraded. Tjis is not spamming at all i simply the fact that most agency and reviewers, followed bh many amatuer contriboutor with basic portfolio, don�t have a clue what they talk abiut.

You're right about what you said.  Since I started from scratch, studio shots are not perfect.  But what confuses me is the sale of SS.  I don't understand this part.  Turkish proverb: Every bad commodity has a buyer.

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Ss you have some sales cause ss is biased towards content for which they pay 25 cents.
Once rhe different royalty were a mean to reach greeat quality level of content, pushing good content and for ing contriboutor to create better content and reaching a lower royalty level. Today is the way they simply make ends meet . Since they are a quited company and need to show always good ewrning they simply push lower royalty level content sonthey save 13 cent for each sale taht multiplied fpr million inages makes them oftej satisfy the market. Thats why you see not sales in adobe but in ss. Adobe don�t needs to push lower royalty inages. Thats why ss is practicalky accepting everything without any control on ehat is uploaded. Personally at this poi t i would accept a lower royalty the same for everybody. I am sure most of those sbapshot uploaded in the last years will never sells a single time.

Unfortunately, SS is just about the only game left in town.....despite everything

i agree despite all is the only agency in my opinion who still have some possibilities. they would raise the control of sales level for contributor and most of all clean their portfolio eliminating all those crap photos and useless contributor. i would accept 32 cent per photo minimum if they would do this, because it's clear that the only reason to accept new crap iOS to sale files with a royalty of 25 cent instead of 38. but i agree, as and is not even manage to give me one third of what ss makes this month. the problem is that 10 million images added every month are unsustainable. i'm still surprised that people keep uploading so much.

...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap 

You should. In belgrade you can find hubdred of modela already trained in stock... therr is also a website where all of them are advertised and you can book them. Sure in september i will move there.
If you searvh for lifestyle content you will recognize them in many portfolio, the lost famous has red hair and beard nd is probably present in hundreds of thousand of images. The only drawbacks is the model are always the same so the faces are not very fresh in stock.
Even yuri archra moved to cape town city that i know moatly cause denmark
Is probably one of the most expensive country, not obly for this cape has weather model industry and superbnlocation.

Quote from: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 08:15

microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

You make excellent points. There are still US based contributors who make  a good living at it. They are exceptional in terms of the quality and quantity of output. However, I do wonder if even some of them wouldn't agree with you if they had to start from scratch in today's environment. One of the toughest things about it is the trend line.  It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

sure some earn good money but most fo them are in downward trend i know some...you can survive only producing at cheap cost and working like a donkey, producing 10000 good images month in a factory environment.....if most of the factory are in russia and ukriane and serbia there is a motivation? low cheap cost of life and production.
in addiction in those country model are everywhere, where i live to find good model you need go to an agency who not ask you less than 300 euro shooting. when you need 4 5 for group shot, and you pay location and all , good luck.
i'm still growing this year but much less i have expected after working so hard in last two year. seems i'm stucked in the middle of nowhere.
in addiction soon most if not all exclusive of stock, we are talking about 10 20 millions file, will ditch their status because the return per download is simply falling down in stock, and stock is raising the number of download to gain status and more earning,...so another 20 millions of very good file in ss as alamy.
and we are not considering the other billions of images of people who work with instagram or freelancing, who never considered micro stock but soon due to a falling down of earning in freelancing job. and we talk about very good artist, mostly better than the medium micro stocker. still video is good but even it has limited time. a lot of factory have stopped producing photos and concentrate on video, but this will cause a collapse of video sales.
and i not even considering the fact that ss has a negative growth in the last year, an following their trend they will probably lose money in next quarter...so they need to save somewhere, and i know where they take money, advertising images with lower ranking to pay less revenue.
all pin all the future is bright

yesterday big sale today as always i could have bet 1000000 dollar, a bunch of subs nothing more....i'm sure till end of month nothing just a not the single to match last year results....last weeks random files new and last year sold pretty good...then stop, only best seller or old files.
how is this possible? i mean all agency i work for have a random path a roller coaster similar path...ss has a straight line since three years in practice.

i have gallery in catalog manager for each year...in 2017 i uploaded near 2300 files they have already earned in two year 2 dollar per image.....in 2018 near 2300 and they have earned 700 dollar....in 2019 already 2400 and i 'd say more creative and interesting, they have earned 120 dollar in 6 months....the declining of sales of new files is clear, sure i have still  popular images who earn money each months  but without the grow of new files is totally useless to do micro stock.
i hope they eliminate popular tabs and change with relevant or choose editorial because it's clear that nobody with a healthy mind will never look for images through new tabs due to the zillions of snapshot poorly made by thousand of amateur.
despite this in line with last year, but  i'm not surprised...my shutter stock earning in the last three years are practically a straight line with a difference in the first semester of 20 dollar and a bunch of download. i can predict july and august right from now.

stock instead sells' only new files but their red is a joke so far less than ss, as is in the middle.

So its about the same on SS and Adobe.  I have lots of City Timelapse shots and they all get rejected because of "INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY REFUSAL"

Is this normal?  Cips that practically show the whole city skyline get rejected.

No issues on Pond5.. 

Should I not mess with these sites for city shots?

Thanks

upload them editorial.

Worst than a sunday))

friday is an holiday?

my best month so far!
A lot better then SS, AS and AL. IS have the same RPD then SS.
2 big getty sales : 320$ + 185$

tour months is biased by two big sales, without them your months would be in line with the other...same happened to me, last month same big sales this months 0. unfortunately those sales are rare and not every month and they give u 15% only, if is beat ss so much i ask how much you earn in ss or as...20 dollar?
for me ss is like 6 times bigger than is and 4 times as. lucky ss is not growing a lot but is always the same good money eery month.