Quote from: pixel8 on July 08, 2016, 11:11

I don't need the constitution to tell me thats its my Human right to protect Myself and Family, I choose to own a gun for that very purpose. If you don't want to own a gun and think that by calling the police or lets say using a baseball bat will save your life or families lives in lets say a home invasion which typically involves two or more thugs who are armed then good luck with that, chances are you would wind up dead.

If you think that by outlawing guns ....

Here's the fundamental problem with arguing gun control. Every comment before this one was about control and regulation. Not banning or outlawing. Yet every single time there's an argument, this is the usual response. They turn it into an all or nothing argument. Own a gun, sure. But nationally, consistently, prove you're not a danger to society first. Yes, criminals will get guns somehow. But if you think that dumb criminals won't get caught more often than not, then really there's no point in discussing this further. I don't understand how making it harder for criminals to get guns can be a bad thing (ie. more regulation).

You can get almost any gun you want here in Canada with a few exceptions. The difference is that nationally you have to jump through more hoops to prove that you can be a responsible gun owner.  Why? Because we had a mass shooting and changed the laws to make it harder to get a gun. It works, its proven to work. There will always be murder, but why not try and prevent at least some of them?

Maybe you should ask Obama he is the one that allowed for Fast and Furious giving guns to criminals!

Quote from: pixel8 on July 11, 2016, 16:54

You are wrong, in 1996 a gunman came on to a military base where my parents served with an ak 47 with a 100 round clip and started killing people at the hospital. An MP rode a bike down the road from his post, the gunman exited the building shooting at my mother as he pulled up on the bike, he got off the bike and from 100 yards shot and killed the gunman.

It is obvious that we will never agree, I am a firm believer in gun ownership, I come form a military family of several generations who has protected your rights as citizens. You can go down that Commie Liberal road  all you want but I will never give up my Rights to you or anyone else.

You are in a dream state if you think Society will peacefully coexist it never has and never will that is why every society from the dawn of civilization has had weapons to protect themselves.

No, you are wrong, firstly you're talking about one guy with an ak47 in the open as he exited a bldg which give a lot more room to maneuver as oppose to multiple guys with ak47 in an enclosed area where there are absolutely no room for a good strategic defense. Secondly, that MP was a trained police officer not a regular civilian. Military and polices are trained professional dedicating their life handling guns for the sole purpose of saving civilian lives and theirs not the other way around. In a world were everybody would have guns nobody would be able to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.

Lets say on that same base, before that MP showed up, a civilian guy pulled up his gun and started shooting at the guy with the ak47 but in the process accidentally killed a kid, than the MP shows up. How that MP is supposed to know that the regular guy with the gun is a good guy as well? Yes the MP could accidentally kill that kid too, but at least everybody would know he is the good guy.

This is the heart of the problem which you seem to willfully omit.

You see there is a reason for the police to wear a uniform and to carry a badge. It is to tell us that in a bad situation they are the good guys. At least most of them are

I'm not wrong, my point was that a person with a handgun can in fact stand up to someone with a automatic assault riffle! He did case closed. As for being in a building a Handgun is more maneuverable then an assault riffle.

As for the MP he probably was well trained but that doe not mean most of the people serving in the military are well trained, especially when they are new!

What makes you think a civilian can not be as well trained or better trained? Their is no way to back that up, just as with the military there are people with different skill levels.

The police in the UK can use a taser or pepper spray if the person they are dealing with looks like they are going for a weapon.  Its a lot easier when there usually aren't any guns on either side.

So lets say you were in France when the attack went down and you were there in person, I guess you would be hoping that the cops showed up with their tasers and pepper spray?

I really can't see how any of you can not imagine what if you were in that situation and what you would do or wish you had to protect yourselves? Are you all telling me honestly that if you were in that situation you would just hope for the best, hope that you would not get shot? I find it hard to believe that if you were in that situation that you would not be wishing you had a way to protect yourselves and the ones you love.

Quote from: pixel8 on July 08, 2016, 11:11

I don't need the constitution to tell me thats its my Human right to protect Myself and Family, I choose to own a gun for that very purpose. If you don't want to own a gun and think that by calling the police or lets say using a baseball bat will save your life or families lives in lets say a home invasion which typically involves two or more thugs who are armed then good luck with that, chances are you would wind up dead.

If you think that by outlawing guns that criminals and thugs won't have guns you are fooling yourself, just look at the terror attack on France that has the strictest gun laws. Hmm they seemed to have guns! There will always be a black market for guns. You might want to learn about Ghost Guns, most criminals seek to buy those. Millions of Americans own guns yet there are not millions of gun related deaths thats because most Americans are law abiding citizens who want to protect their families from people who do things like these snipers.

Guns are not the problem, if you outlaw guns they would use knives if you outlaw knives they would use rocks! It's the people who are the problem so stop blaming the guns. Their needs to be  racial unity but instead there is allot of racial divide and hatred, thats the problem.

Ok I'll bite. How do you explain why people in countries with liberal gun laws like Saudia Arabia or Iraq couldn't prevent terrorist attacks recently. Since you're stating that a country with strict gun laws like France would be able to when they have liberal gun laws. Your logic here doesn't make sense.

Or a country like Iceland with the highest gun rate per capita has 0 homocides.

I think it's just the people's mentality and how people have been brought up that kills people.

I didn't say France could have stopped it, read my post and you will see that, my argument is that unless you rid the world of all weapons their will never be peace. Since their is no way to rid the world of weapons or violent people it is therefore better for people to be able to defend themselves and since guns will always exist I choose a gun to defend my family and myself.

As far as Saudi Arabia and Irag are concerned guns cant stop whats happening there. However I bet if you do live there you would be happy to own a gun to defend your family. If they didn't have guns there, the terrorist would still have them! And if they didn't have them they would be using swords. As for France this completes my argument, no one was supposed to be able to have guns in France and yet TaDa the Terrorists have GUNS! so gun control only unarmed the citizens of France who were then sitting ducks for insane people to kill them. If some of the law abiding citizens in France had guns they could have fought back and there would have been less deaths of innocent people.

Yet this common sense logic does not make sense to any of you because you people have been brainwashed by the liberal media and it is people like you who will get us all killed! Wait until this country collapses, its coming in your lifetime, and you find yourself in a situation like people did in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, or currently in Venezuela, you will wish you had a gun when that day comes! There is not enough cops or military to police the entire United States and if you think they will be there to save you, you're foolish.

As far as people have been brought up and their mentality is concerned I agree with you 100%

Pixel, this forum is a leftist stronghold devoid of any logic and common sense. Can't have a rational discussion with social justice warriors. BLM is an anti-white terrorist organization sponsored by Soros and praised by Obama and the media. Another racist attack just occurred in Tennessee, whites targeted.

Black Lives Matter is a Hate Group! If they were not a racist hate group they would not be going around calling white people crackers! They would not be trying to convince whites they are privileged, They would not be calling for the killing of white people, instead they would be following after Martin Luther Kings approach calling for unity amongst all races to stop the over reaching hand of justice who has been hiring incompetent cops because most people don't want to work a job trying to stop a crumbling society!

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I don't really like Michael Moore but he's right when he shows people just across the border from Detroit, in Canada, who are armed as much as many Americans, but don't go around shooting each other or police. It's attitude and people. Not the guns.

Baloney. First of all, you're comparing the most dangerous city in the US to the safest city in Canada. That has nothing to do with geography and everything to do with poverty, racism, lack of opportunity and easy access to guns. Second, Windsor, Canada's police chief credits the huge difference in murder rates to...wait for it...Canada's policy of strict gun control.

http://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/a-tale-of-two-cities-windsor-and-detroit-murder-rates-show-stark-contrast

You missed the point. Why don't Canadians, just across the river, with guns, rob, murder and shoot each others, like their close neighbors? It's not the guns is it. Must be something else?

Poverty, opportunity and racism is the excuse for why people are inhuman to each other? You just tossed in guns for effect, right?

While the U.S. does have a homicide rate nearly double that of most developed countries like Canada, it doesn�t have the world�s highest homicide rate. With 6.4 homicides per 100 thousand people, the U.S. falls behind countries in Africa, the Caribbean, Eastern Europe, and Latin America.

Do they have 10 million guns in Africa, the Caribbean, Eastern Europe, or Latin America? There are that in Canada and I repeat, Canadians aren't shooting each other.

Must be something about civilized people, not the guns.

No, I'm afraid YOU missed the point. YOU said people in Canada had just as many guns but didn't shoot each other like Americans do. YOU said it's the people, not the guns. But the Canadians say the difference is the GUNS. Everyone in the WORLD sees the difference is the guns. Most people in the USA see the difference is the guns. Only a small percentage of people...a small minority of Americans, who are themselves a small minority of the world population...just cannot or will not see the forest for the trees.

And if, for some reason, you still believe t's just because Americans are just more violent or crazy than everyone else (no argument from me), then why on earth would you want to arm those people with guns??? If you truly believe it's the people, then take the stupid guns away from them.

During the Great Depression just as many people had guns but they had more morals and values more common decency  for others, the problem is not guns its the media who degrades good morals and values and promotes hate and violence, mixed that in with corruption and the out sourcing of jobs and you have despair which leads to hate and violence being carried out.

Unless you can get rid of all weapons getting rid of most peoples guns won't solve the problem you are only disarming people who want to protect themselves. My family has owned guns many generations back and we haven't shot anyone and so goes for almost all gun owners seeing how their are several million but because their are a few lose cannons your solution is to take all the cannons off the ship so the pirates can invade without a fight!

Oh god, if I hear one more ridiculous argument about France and thugs and criminals buying guns and protecting yourself from home invasions and they'll use a knife or a baseball bat or a pile of marshmallows I will barf.

We are a twisted country founded on invasion, genocide, war, slavery and white male supremacy. Unfortunately it's USA DNA. As the country gets less white, the white men feel power slipping away and encourage the proliferation of guns (for white men, natch), spend huge amounts on a super military, incarcerate black men for minor crimes at enormous rates (basically another form of slavery), militarize the police and give them carte blanche to kill black men for selling loosies or CDs or for having a "broken taillight."

We're an aggressive, warmongering third-world country. With people so stupid they think "Born in the USA" is a song about patriotism.

Go ahead and Barf, what is your answer or solution to the terror attack in France? You don't have one but to roll over and die from a Terrorist! I'm not for invasion, genocide, war or slavery I can tell you hate America but you fail to mention how far America has evolved away from those very things, maybe you should be more focussed on the countries who still practice genocide, war and slavery! As for police brutality there are certainly problems there and yet at the same time everyone wants to judge the situation based on news coverage, you weren't there and don't know everything about every case, you only know what the news outlets tell you, which isn't always the facts!

I don't need the constitution to tell me thats its my Human right to protect Myself and Family, I choose to own a gun for that very purpose. If you don't want to own a gun and think that by calling the police or lets say using a baseball bat will save your life or families lives in lets say a home invasion which typically involves two or more thugs who are armed then good luck with that, chances are you would wind up dead.

If you think that by outlawing guns that criminals and thugs won't have guns you are fooling yourself, just look at the terror attack on France that has the strictest gun laws. Hmm they seemed to have guns! There will always be a black market for guns. You might want to learn about Ghost Guns, most criminals seek to buy those. Millions of Americans own guns yet there are not millions of gun related deaths thats because most Americans are law abiding citizens who want to protect their families from people who do things like these snipers.

Guns are not the problem, if you outlaw guns they would use knives if you outlaw knives they would use rocks! It's the people who are the problem so stop blaming the guns. Their needs to be  racial unity but instead there is allot of racial divide and hatred, thats the problem.

Totally true.

Although, if you sort by newest, you can just take your existing images and add words on top of them.

Please explain what you mean "you can just take your existing images and add words on top of them."

I make my entire living with stock photography so a third in income disappearing in two months is very alarming.

A drop in the pound is a good thing for Britain it means that their exports to other countries will be cheaper and thus more sales for England, that is why the USA and China are always trying to devalue their currency. Every currency is rushing for the bottom and poor Japan is trying to devalue theirs but everyone keeps jumping into theirs as a safe haven thus keeping them in a permanent recession.

Englands exit will bring back jobs to them and more income not to mention national pride, rights and less bureaucracy!

I respectfully disagree that decline in sales is due to sporting events, I did fine in 2014 and I have no sports photos for the most part. I believe the problem in sales is due to one of a few possibilities, SS has changed their search algorithm, SS has been flooded with so many photos watering down all the full timers, possible market share decline, global recession, possible under reporting of sales to contributors, artificial capping of contributors to divide up sales to new comers, or all the above. Thats all I can come up with!

Who really knows?

Hmm Down in Washington Too!