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« on: July 28, 2020, 12:12 »
That video of Pavlovsky standing at his pool table in his multi-million-dollar house like a stiff cardboard cutout, reading stilted jargon-filled gobbledygook into the camera with a bad microphone with lots of echo, then awkwardly hitting his cue ball with that self-satisfied let-them-eat-cake smirk, tho...
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« on: July 28, 2020, 05:15 »
I am living in a country with no social welfare benefits like unemployment money, food stamps or stimulus check like in America. The alternative would be begging in the streets.
I envy people who can quit SS and argue about their lost self-respect or wasted time, because they simply do not depend on the money from SS. In times of corona I do more than ever before.
I am self-reliant, I am self-employed, I am proud of me and I am getting the respect from my family and people around me. Ten US cents here might be more then 10 Dollars in rich countries. In my eyes protest against SS is as useless as anything. And I am wondering where this hate and ire comes from?
If people with provoking opinions are called TROLLs, I am one of them.
Your position might be representative of other artists from underdeveloped countries who find image uploading to SS still worthwhile. Taking that into perspective and the low quality of new images being uploaded, SS may gradually become a go-to outlet for acceptance and distribution of the art work from the third world countries. If SS gets sold and the new owner moves their offices from the Empire State building to somewhere in central Africa, that could further reduce SS expenses and improve their bottom line.
Oringer has made no secret of the fact that he sees SS as a marketplace for people in poor countries to sell images to people in rich countries. He stated as much years ago. I have to find his quote.
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« on: July 28, 2020, 05:11 »
Theyll be in touch if youve been accepted.
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« on: July 27, 2020, 14:31 »
I am living in a country with no social welfare benefits like unemployment money, food stamps or stimulus check like in America. The alternative would be begging in the streets.
I envy people who can quit SS and argue about their lost self-respect or wasted time, because they simply do not depend on the money from SS. In times of corona I do more than ever before.
I am self-reliant, I am self-employed, I am proud of me and I am getting the respect from my family and people around me. Ten US cents here might be more then 10 Dollars in rich countries. In my eyes protest against SS is as useless as anything. And I am wondering where this hate and ire comes from?
If people with provoking opinions are called TROLLs, I am one of them.
Yes, we know, youve explained your dire situation before. My question is, if youre happy with your dwindling earnings, what difference does it make to you if others find the hit to their earnings unacceptable? If they decide to boycott, why does it bother you enough to come here repeatedly and ask the same stupid questions over and over again? And to the rare people who are somehow magically earning more, why do you think its swell to come here and rub it in the noses of people whose income has been devastated? Is it some kind of game to you? Whats your point? Im doing ok, eff all the rest of you. You think its fun to say that to people who are struggling?
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« on: July 24, 2020, 11:35 »
Now we know one reason everything paused for a couple of days.
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« on: July 23, 2020, 09:52 »
What is the final goal of the protest?
How realistic are all these energy and time consuming actions?
If you don't agree with the protest and enjoy making 10 sales, why waste your time trolling here? Troll.
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« on: July 21, 2020, 14:23 »
I find his move anything but sad. He is making tens of thousands $ a month. It doesn't have to sustainable for ages, 5-10 years is enough for him to retire. Actually, I think he already can. He is not doing it for community's higher cause.
How do you know? Tens of thousands a month sounds like a lot, but if you have staff salaries and high equipment, model/actor and location costs to pay, youre not making all that much yourself. People who live in expensive areas like New York and make 20K per month are just managing to pay their sky high rents or mortgages and property taxes.
because I know few of them that are in the same category like he is. It is of course their private matter and I don't feel like making it public. I just wanted to point out to you that your estimate is far far away.
My estimate? I didnt estimate anything.
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« on: July 21, 2020, 04:49 »
I find his move anything but sad. He is making tens of thousands $ a month. It doesn't have to sustainable for ages, 5-10 years is enough for him to retire. Actually, I think he already can. He is not doing it for community's higher cause.
How do you know? Tens of thousands a month sounds like a lot, but if you have staff salaries and high equipment, model/actor and location costs to pay, youre not making all that much yourself. People who live in expensive areas like New York and make 20K per month are just managing to pay their sky high rents or mortgages and property taxes.
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« on: July 20, 2020, 17:25 »
What are we?
We are part of a VERY large crowd in a crowd-sourced industry.
We work in an industry where the basic tools of the trade are owned by virtually everyone.
We are contributing media to a pile which is larger than most people can imagine.
I don't understand why so many contributors think they should be special or "precious" to these agencies. You are a face in a crowd. Infinitely replaceable.
As are stock agencies to buyers.
for the major agencies, maybe - but if stock was fungible, the 'lesser' agencies would do better
whenever i encounter people who buy from stock agencies (or those who even know what stock is) their primary response is shutterstock, followed sometimes by adobe or getty, but rarely all 3 and rarely another agency
A greater agency today is a lesser agency tomorrow. I remember when Tony Stone was it, then Veer, then Getty, then iStock, now Shutterstock. Tomorrow, who knows? (Speaking from a buyers perspective.) Agencies rise and fall. Buyers just want a suitable image.
Tony Stone was a great agency... until Getty bought them. (Speaking from a contributor's perspective), you could almost say the same about iStock apart from the bottom feeding micro perspective. Shutterstock was never great. They took bottom feeding to a whole new level and called it subscriptions.... and this is where I can say I told you so.
And yet here you are, posting in MicrostockGroup.
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« on: July 20, 2020, 16:07 »
What are we?
We are part of a VERY large crowd in a crowd-sourced industry.
We work in an industry where the basic tools of the trade are owned by virtually everyone.
We are contributing media to a pile which is larger than most people can imagine.
I don't understand why so many contributors think they should be special or "precious" to these agencies. You are a face in a crowd. Infinitely replaceable.
As are stock agencies to buyers.
for the major agencies, maybe - but if stock was fungible, the 'lesser' agencies would do better
whenever i encounter people who buy from stock agencies (or those who even know what stock is) their primary response is shutterstock, followed sometimes by adobe or getty, but rarely all 3 and rarely another agency
A greater agency today is a lesser agency tomorrow. I remember when Tony Stone was it, then Veer, then Getty, then iStock, now Shutterstock. Tomorrow, who knows? (Speaking from a buyers perspective.) Agencies rise and fall. Buyers just want a suitable image.
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« on: July 20, 2020, 10:07 »
What I find sad about the article is that he lost income, then ramped up production in order to regain his earnings...how long is that sustainable? There'll come a point when so many images are being produced that there's simply no way to keep up any more. (I think that point has been reached already.)
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« on: July 20, 2020, 09:05 »
What are we?
We are part of a VERY large crowd in a crowd-sourced industry.
We work in an industry where the basic tools of the trade are owned by virtually everyone.
We are contributing media to a pile which is larger than most people can imagine.
I don't understand why so many contributors think they should be special or "precious" to these agencies. You are a face in a crowd. Infinitely replaceable.
As are stock agencies to buyers.
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« on: July 19, 2020, 04:16 »
Im also banned, I guess because I pointed out that he gets barely any sales. Easy enough to see his Twitter account, though, where he spends a lot of time retweeting Jo Ann, so I thank him for that, though he only has 14 followers so hes not helping us spread the message all that much. I feel sorry for the guy.
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« on: July 14, 2020, 09:20 »
I have been monitoring content totals and looking at new uploads at Shutterstock, and on Saturday noticed that the totals were the same late in the day as on Saturday morning. No updates Sunday or Monday morning.
There was a post Monday in the Shutterstock forums:
"Approved content is taking longer than usual to be published. We expect everything to be back to normal by end of business (New York time) tomorrow."
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100692-accepted-content-not-being-added-to-port/?do=findComment&comment=1858455
From Saturday morning through Tuesday afternoon is a very, very long outage and it makes me wonder if they're making changes (rather than fixing bugs).
They disabled my account so I couldn't do anything even if I was inclined to, but possibly now might be a good time to grab anything you've a mind to in case it's no longer there after the changes.
Or this is just a very long bug fix and I'm concerned over nothing 
I'm sure they're changing things. Too big a coincidence.
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« on: July 11, 2020, 09:40 »
If I won the lottery the last thing Id do is start an agency. Id retire somewhere nice and warm and spend my days swimming and cycling and partying.
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« on: July 08, 2020, 09:22 »
Theres no good reason to ask 75%-90% less for vectors than for photos. No other agency has such cockamamie pricing.
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« on: July 08, 2020, 09:21 »
Duplicate post
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« on: July 07, 2020, 17:37 »
I just dont understand why vectors are priced at a small fraction of every other type of image. It makes no sense.
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« on: July 07, 2020, 15:50 »
Trying to submit and I'm getting all kinds of new warning boxes, like my description matches my title, or it isn't long enough, or "Congratulations" on my unique title, and it seems to be taking my description and adding those words to my keywords...
I havent uploaded there in a long time, but I remember that stuff happening back when I did upload there.
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« on: July 07, 2020, 11:36 »
I've been talking to many photographers lately and none of them stopped uploading. I honestly expected the contrary. What I want to say is that this forum is not reflection of reality at all. It is occupied by contributors who promorte boycott and agressive measures and the majority that still uploads is silent. The more realistic reflection of reality would make this forum much more useful for all of us. I blame promoters lf boycott for this, they (we) are too hursh on the ones who have different opinion. Let them talk and let not be even worse than SS itself by not listening or caring about others opinion.
Yet more people disable or delete their Shutterstock ports and more join the coalition every day. Well hit 5,500 members today or tomorrow.
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« on: July 04, 2020, 16:31 »
Just a tiny 22K+ portfolio.
And, recently my SS is up, but AS is down.
What's wrong with me?
Fortunately, my total microstock sales follow a widely accepted downhill trend,
so I am not "Josephine" yet. 
Youre not Josephine because you dont come here solely to troll.
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« on: July 03, 2020, 13:46 »
In 2016 "Josephine" was in the micro stock business either 3 years or 5 years, depending on what she felt like claiming that day. Then in 2017 she was in 5 years again. Then in 2018 anyone who'd been in the business for 7 years was old and out of new ideas, even though if, in 2016, she'd actually been in the business for 5 years, by 2018 she would have been in the business 7 years and would have been old and out of new ideas herself, by her reckoning.
Now she's making more money with a royalty cut. Or is it less money? Three times more, five times more, three times less, five times less? Seven times more or less when she runs out of ideas? Who knows.
October 11, 2016, 13:35
I am very lucky. I am in the business since three years.
November 27, 2016, 11:18
I make a living on micros since 5 years.
May 10, 2017, 13:07
sorry to tell you, the sales are great since a couple of months, the sales are getting better and better. I am with them since 5 years.
April 23, 2018, 11:31
old are those, who are in the Microstock business for more than 7 years. They ran out of new ideas. And they remember the golden days.
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« on: July 01, 2020, 15:40 »
I have to imagine SS foresaw a protest, but figured people would just pull their ports. Certainly it never occurred to Pavlovsky that contributors would be looking at his abhorrent Twitter likes. Nor did it occur to Oringer that he should hire a PR team to handle his social media instead of telling the hands that feed him to go take a hike.
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« on: July 01, 2020, 10:42 »
Don't be fooled...
Joining Microstock (and doing my homework) automatically led me to this place so how come this place isn't flooded with messages from dissatisfied contributors who want to know what is going on or who want to express their feelings or what actions they have taken? Are they afraid? Is it the language barrier? Without this forum I would be running around like a headless chicken, I kid you not! This place has made me aware of many things in Microstock, even outside Microstock!
Everyone's on the coalition FB page and website. https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/https://stockcoalition.org
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