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This "Some of our editorial customers report usages to us over a period of time" sounds like the company has already got your image and they only pay for it if they use it or am I reading this wrong.

That's correct; and they don't always pay right away after they report the use (if they're a large enough customer they're given a lot of leeway)

I'd imagine for a very large customer it's a complicated invoicing system, when they finish paying that month's invoice or whatever they send payment to the artist ... That would be my guess anyway. Red numbers don't look good on quarterly statements.

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I successfully broke with my grilfriend  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

That's a shame, I keep my grill friends close, three of us can eat a tone of barbecue :D

Bought a charcoal smoker, refilled the LP gas for the big grill, got a Weber and two bags of charcoal. I'm all in with you're Grill Friends and BBQ. I see a photo op in this as well.

your*

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Already stated by others but, I wouldn't think that any "professionals" trust auto (or maybe it's not lack of trust but lack of control) but, sometimes when it's too bright out to see the * screen I'll toss it in one of the priority modes and hope for the best. The only advice I can give is just to have fun doing what you enjoy, there's no use having too much fuss for a couple quarters a day. Good luck man!

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They are taxed ... not the same way that regular earnings are I don't think. I'm not an accountant and can't even do bookeeping well and can still read that box 2 on this form that I'm sure we've all seen says "Royalties".
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099msc.pdf

In the case of the large estate or whatever, I think that is also taxed differently depending on if it's currently under a mortgage. Interest on mortgages has a tax credit or whatever, in which case you fill out a 1098.

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Image Sleuth / Re: Fiverr, the another gray market
« on: March 16, 2017, 15:58 »
Just had a few messages from him:

mehdycr: "Thanks for your advice , but i don't steal anything , i remove the watermark like any other service on fiverr .. "

Me: Removing the watermark means you haven't paid for the photos. You are making money off people like me who create the photos to sell on Shutterstock. Because fiverr can't be bothered to police things like this means you get away with it. Reported to Shutterstock.

so , should i stop this service ?

Yes you should stop and everyone who does this should stop but many probably wont because it's easy money. Doing graphics work for people is ok if it's your own work. I'm a graphic designer and wouldn't touch Fiverr because the so called clients want stuff for very little money. The last logo I did I charged 400, not 5! The client was happy. Value your work and don't support shite sites like Fiverr. Good luck.

yes i agree with you , i work a lot of time for just 5$ , but there's no alternative , !

There are alternatives, contact local print shops, design companies etc offering to do freelance work. You'll make a lot more money than on Fiverr. Back to work now, hope it works out, seriously. It's tough to make money in graphics these days (been doing it 40 years), partly because of sites like Fiverr offering cheap work lowering prices for everyone.


You did it right from your side, but I am sure the accuser is very much aware of all the licensing, its only he is trying to be innocent.
I still want that agencies should take a proper action.

There should be a microstock union who listens to contributors, buyers and the agencies.


Uhm. Fiverr is actually one of the only places that does care. I reported this once and they contacted me back within only an hour or so that they had contacted the person.

That said, sometimes I'll run into clients that want you to buy an image for whatever we're working on (my australian friend comes to mind) and that certainly is within TOS, so I'd imagine technically, if this loser was in fact buying the images and delivering them to the client ... that would be also? Not sure.

I posted about it the day I reported the last one. They were very prompt, it'd be a pain to go through and report all of them that have it listed as a service though. http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/someone-should-do-something/msg454517/#msg454517

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Google pay 70% for paid for apps.  I think Apple are similar?  People make apps all over the world.  You don't have to buy expensive cameras and lenses to make apps.  People from less affluent countries can make apps.  Perhaps not as easy as using a camera but the difference between 70% and 15% seems too big.

It's not the same. I've made and sold apps. The amount of of work required to make an app is exponentially higher than microstock and the earnings are lower when you factor in the amount of time spent on it. When Apple announced they were taking 30%, developers were pretty angry. Many believe that Apple should only get 10-15% max when you account for how much time and money the developer spends on development and marketing.

Once an image is uploaded, there's is little upkeep required from the contributor. You just wait for it rise up the search results over time. Once an App is upload, there's marketing, constant updates and the fight to stay relevant. Instead of rising up the search results, it does the exact opposite...it falls into irrelevance. That's why the developer gets 70% of paid apps and In-App-Purchases. 99% of Apps don't make any money so 70% of $0 is still $0.

It's much more profitable in Microstock despite the lower royalty rate.
But AdSense can be used with less work than you have to do for microstock and they pay 51% for that.  The microstock sites might say they have to pay more to host our images but Youtube pay 55% and they have those costs.
AdSense monetizes youtube videos and requires little to no effort but the work you have to put into making engaging youtube content is far greater than stock photos or video.
I disagree, having used AdSense on a blog, it takes very little effort.  A lot of youtube content takes very little effort as well.  Some people make a big production of it but that's not essential to make money.

There is a bit of a difference ... new content within only a few hours work will earn a buck or so the first day or so ... then it tapers slowly ... but, you do continue to get those few pennies a day even if you post nothing. Where Microstock, when you stop after only a few hours, you'll probably not even see a quarter per year.

It obviously depends on the quality, and quantity that you put into either but, I'd bet they even out a bit. However, if you monetize on your work using all of the platforms you can, say you recorded an instructional video during a photoshoot that was also for stock or something, then also transcribed it for your blog ... I could see you getting a few days pay out of it, and then the trickle of pennies for however many years you'd like.

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Google and Apple don't make the bulk of their revenue from selling apps, adsense or Youtube


Oh my, what is it you think the good people at Google do exactly?

Hint: Advertising. Yes, they definitely make the bulk of their revenue from ads (68% AdWods, 21% AdSense). That is their entire business model (and of course includes YouTube).


Google is not in the business of advertising. They are in the business of collecting information. They sell your personal information and they have a lot of it. Points for being so naive and condescending at the same time.

Before anyone argues, Google SAYS they make money from advertising. Believe it if you want. They collect more information about you and what you do online than any other organization. They use it to target ads at you sure but that's not all.


The targetted ads are mostly from your browser cookies and Yes, they do make some from selling some (mostly) impersonal data but, I'd be willing to bet their biggest money maker is advertising ... some of these businesses throw millions at advertising per year and google owns the single largest advertising network in the world ... Guessing that means something.

Generally, the data that is revealed to third parties is things like ... what apps they use, when and how they use them, how people use parts of their geographic location ... like ... crap that you'd want if you were an industry leader who wanted to stay on top of the game. You think they'd have this information and then NOT tell Samsung or something that they want the next device to be tailored to a specific set of data that they've collected over the ... what two decades now that they've been around?

I can't find one with revenue broken down (though, I wouldn't really want to try to sift through the myriad of data that I'm sure they have) However, if you'd like to dig into the financial data of Google feel free ...

I just can't see a majority of Google's 20 billion dollar growth last year attributed to stealing our nudes and selling them to the CIA or something.
http://financials.morningstar.com/balance-sheet/bs.html?t=GOOG&region=usa&culture=en-US

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Shutterstock.com / Re: **BAM** NEW DASHBOARD ACTIVE
« on: February 10, 2017, 17:35 »
You still can't arrange photos by dl number or date uploaded. This is real disadvantage in my opinion. And map is to small for me.

The map will zoom with the browser, if you really want to see it bigger.

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Image Sleuth / Re: Oh dear Canstock tut tut
« on: January 25, 2017, 16:44 »
Seems like lots of my counterparts have moved on. Kind of wondered where you guys all went.

I haven't stopped creating images I'm just more particular about what I do with them. The second half of my portfolio is only available on my own sites. I hate uploading and have found that I prefer 1 sale at $14.75 over 52 sales at $0.28. 51 less people to give my images away for free. It seems that if people pay a decent amount for an image they are far less likely to want to give it to other people for free.
Sales at the micros are continually dropping but my sites are covering the difference. Making roughly the same amount now as 3 years ago. Haven't uploaded anywhere in over a year.

I heard creative market is good but they didn't like my style.

Well, I know that i love your work, and have used it multiple times over the years. I'm sure that I'll be returning for more when softball starts back up. If I can find them on your sites I'll shop there first.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: In Search of ...
« on: January 19, 2017, 15:51 »
I'm trying to find this Scott Maxwell feller that makes these little gold guys.

https://us.fotolia.com/search?p=20394

I had found them posted on a blog or something last year, tried to email him about cost on a custom one and never heard back. We've used it for our local newspaper annual contest thing for years and tonight I can't find a 2017 one anywhere. At this point it's branded the contest pretty heavily :/

I do an orange guy, if you're interested.

Let me rephrase that.  I can do 3d renders of an orange fellow with various props if interested.

Thanks Sean! I might take you up on that some time. For now though, I think the little gold guy is what people have seen for 5ish, maybe 6 years even and it's probably burned in quite a bit :/ I wouldn't want to make it seem like something else.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: In Search of ...
« on: January 19, 2017, 15:28 »
Is flooding, the only way to earn something with images nowadays?...  :-\


Obviously not, as we've been purchasing and using it for years ... I'm just not really a fan of slicing up his work to make a frankendesign when I can at least attempt to contact the artist to get what I'm after.

http://thegoldguys.blogspot.com

https://twitter.com/lumaxart

https://www.flickr.com/people/lumaxart/
there's an email on flicker


Thank you. I feel like that's the same email that I didn't get a response from last year but, I've sent another.

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General Stock Discussion / In Search of ...
« on: January 18, 2017, 21:29 »
I'm trying to find this Scott Maxwell feller that makes these little gold guys.

https://us.fotolia.com/search?p=20394

I had found them posted on a blog or something last year, tried to email him about cost on a custom one and never heard back. We've used it for our local newspaper annual contest thing for years and tonight I can't find a 2017 one anywhere. At this point it's branded the contest pretty heavily :/

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 12, 2017, 14:18 »
i have a portfolio of 3700 images and consistent revenue for the last 3 years.  In December my sales dropped to a low that I haven't seen in 4 years..down by 30%.  I chalked it up to holiday season but now 11 days into January I see no improvement, in fact, I'm its sunk even further.  My daily sales are about 50% down from my average daily sales for the last several years.  Has something changed in the algorithm or am i just having bad luck?

I think the design world is still recovering from the election, holiday, and weather ... we'll buy your images when we realize that the deadline is tomorrow. Until then, cool your britches.

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Hey guys, been lurking for a while now on these forums. They have been of great help thanks for that.
Figured i'd ask for abit of feedback on my portfolio,

Linking my Adobestock portfolio since i got the most amount of images on this website (30, small amount still)

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/206673062/guido


Thanks in advance

All that stuff seems pretty artsy ... I can see the paintings selling just for their texture and depth but, I wouldn't expect too much ... Keep at it.

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I'd just contact the company and try to get an EL out of them. There's no use wasting much time or resources trying to battle those big brands ... at the very least you get "exposure" and at best you get the cost of the license that I'd imagine they thought they were getting to begin with.

At least, I can hope that this world has some decency left and that they would try to be honest :/ it's an odd world though.

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Well, I'm not going to get involved in the pointless banter.

If you didnt read the pages, how do you know there was 2 pages of crap and pointless banter? Did someone give you a heads up and call upon you to come over here and comment?

Not everything is an argument on MSG, but this is a public forum. Forums are where everybody gets to have their say, according to the rules of the forum host. Just because some people dont like what is being said, doesnt necessarily make it pointless crap and banter.

No Cathy ... I read the comments on the first page, replied and realized that we were 3 pages deep ... I get the emails of trending threads, and I click on them to engage with others as I sip my coffee ...

You can't really say that it's not pointless crap and banter, when there's rarely an actual solution to an issue posted but, instead it's generally the tearing down of another and the work that they're doing.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: 2017 Selling Direct, Personal Stores
« on: December 31, 2016, 19:12 »
My comment was on point...you want it deleted just because you dont like what i said. Looks to me like you are the one that should be deleted, since all you did was call me names.

I disagree with the need to delete, but your knock against leo was gratuitous (besides being incorrect) 

your other comments were redundant and served no positive purpose other than trying to re-ignite old flames


She could have had her say at the outset, but she showed up when the thread got popular.  Cathy, you will not be receiving any more replies from me for the duration of this.

I actually don't recall him trying to rake in money from us at any point ... the extras and addons sure, and possibly whatever he made from the transfer of Symbio which, when I checked a few months ago was severely out of date and had compatibility issues. So it's dead if I'm not mistaken.

He made some off of HIS OWN WORK. What did we contribute to Symbiostock ... testing scenarios? Plugin developers make money from support and premium plugins, and while premium plugins were offered, support was always given and dealt with in a timely manner. If you don't want to buy something, just don't ... it's that easy. There were never any promises of earnings or potential ...

Anyhow, nice to see you alive and doing well Leo. Keep up the good work.

You should have taken the time to read the 2 pages of crap. In there, you will see that my first comment was directly related to this thread, not the past, not ANY of the things you are talking about above. Instead, it is Leo and cascoly talking crap...but hey, just ignore that. They have.  :)

My only comment was that cascoly is defensive because he had a stake in the first go-around. And i dont care whether it was sales, SEO positioning, or whatever he wants to call it or laugh at me about.  ::)

Well, I'm not going to get involved in the pointless banter. I think the OP was to update us on what he's working on. I'm not sure why everything has to be an argument on MSG. We all could use a dose of respect and humility.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: 2017 Selling Direct, Personal Stores
« on: December 30, 2016, 17:07 »
@cascoly what is your opinion of the inter-site search network that we all had? Hindsite is 20/20, I'm curious what you think.

I didn't intend to carry on anything like that in this endeavor, but still I'm curious. You had contributed very well to it.

Wow, I didn't read like .. 2 pages worth of crap.

The search system I feel like was fine ... The search page could have used some significant improvements. It was more like it was designed for us to go search for ourselves. Not buyers searching for images.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: 2017 Selling Direct, Personal Stores
« on: December 30, 2016, 17:01 »
My comment was on point...you want it deleted just because you dont like what i said. Looks to me like you are the one that should be deleted, since all you did was call me names.

I disagree with the need to delete, but your knock against leo was gratuitous (besides being incorrect) 

your other comments were redundant and served no positive purpose other than trying to re-ignite old flames


She could have had her say at the outset, but she showed up when the thread got popular.  Cathy, you will not be receiving any more replies from me for the duration of this.

I actually don't recall him trying to rake in money from us at any point ... the extras and addons sure, and possibly whatever he made from the transfer of Symbio which, when I checked a few months ago was severely out of date and had compatibility issues. So it's dead if I'm not mistaken.

He made some off of HIS OWN WORK. What did we contribute to Symbiostock ... testing scenarios? Plugin developers make money from support and premium plugins, and while premium plugins were offered, support was always given and dealt with in a timely manner. If you don't want to buy something, just don't ... it's that easy. There were never any promises of earnings or potential ...

Anyhow, nice to see you alive and doing well Leo. Keep up the good work.

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Gain and ISO are reasonably similar. I most cases, these are all things that you want when it comes to shooting in dark conditions. SO forget about ISO and gain.

What's wrong with your videos apart from the colour of people's clothes reflecting on their faces? (That's an issue between the sun, the light it emits, the clothes people are wearing and the current status of the weather/atmosphere... all things that your camera isn't equipped to alter.) If people know what specific issues you're having, then they'll be in a better position to advise.

Have you tried using ND filters? They'll block out a chunk of sunlight before it even reaches the lens, so you're not forced to tighten your pipe, and all that jazz.

You'll be wanting to use the lowest iso as possible, and a polarizing filter will help with the reflections. If it's too bright toss on a couple Neutral Density filters and you'd have a good start, then focus on the lens.

High ISO means more grain ... though there was a topic a few years back that a slight increase in ISO gave crisper photos, I wouldn't suggest ruining a set of shots to test that theory. ISO is like ... the inverse to light. The brighter the lighting, the lower ISO. The dimmer, the higher.

Honestly not sure where you heard that high ISO would help with that but, they were wrong. Maybe see if there are some basic photography courses at the local college or at the very least do some online training. A sound knowledge of photography mechanics is handy, even for a hobbyist.

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123RF / Re: Any Signs of Life?
« on: December 17, 2016, 16:17 »
November 2016 was my BME for 123rf ... $2.76.

I haven't been doing anything though. So I don't expect much.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: File Saving?
« on: December 17, 2016, 16:13 »
Why rename it? I upload them as camera saves it. Like DSC_3456.JPG...

Actually, the filename should increase SEO just as much if not more than the metadata ... which doesn't really help for microstock but, it's certainly useful if you're uploading elsewhere.

Why rename it? I upload them as camera saves it. Like DSC_3456.JPG...

If you do composites, illustrations, or anything that isn't straight out of the camera, you need some sort of naming scheme to use. I prefer an organized life :)

I rename my raw files as well (date and a four digit sequence).

When you use a naming scheme, particularly for files in a series, it's a lot easier to deal with - the larger your portfolio gets, the more help these organizing steps are. So something from my recent remodeling series might have a Kit- prefix (kitchen), something descriptive - countertop templating - and the raw file number - 150707_0008.

If I blend exposures, I might have 161216_0206-209 for the range of raw files in the blend. There's lots more detail, but I think that the camera name is about the least helpful way to handling naming.

I don't worry about spaces any more - once upon a time they caused problems for file systems, but I think that's obsolete for the environments I'm working in, as are worries about length

You're an overachiever! I just let lightroom deal with that ... it likes folders and structure. But, for my freelance work it's all sorted and named by client/date/filename+date+revision+extension

Programmers just figured out that users experience less errors if they replace spaces with - or _ on upload. The environments are still the same, spaces don't work in urls and capital letters are different for windows environments vs. linux (one is case sensitive and one isn't, can't remember which) The micros rename the file anyway so it doesn't matter one bit.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Your Single Best Day Ever
« on: December 16, 2016, 13:37 »
3 dollars and 30 cents.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Suddenly sales stop? Is this normal?
« on: December 13, 2016, 19:07 »
I'm still in a slow day with 3 DLs. After 6pm, I don't expect a lot more... I'm also frustrated because I still can't find any of where my photos/illustrations have been used. Whenever I reverse image search, I either find my own portfolio or nothing. There have been enough DLs now that something should pop up. I still think I'm doing something wrong. Or maybe they just are taking a loooong time to index.

It depends on the sites activity, more active sites are indexed more often. I remember selling one of my new files and being excited, checked where it was used a few weeks later ... they put it on like 4 different websites and stuff on the single purchase, so be careful what you wish for. lol

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Goodbye Shutterstock
« on: December 02, 2016, 17:14 »
So I was working exclusively for the microstock industry. Shutterstock alone was sending me more then enough monthly to pay my bills. Now I see the earnings are like 30, 40 % down comparing to last year, and the new images I uploaded lately, they don't sell at all, and I mean 00000! and their quality is really good, similar or even better to older ones that already sold more than 2000 times.
So I had to get another occupation, I just leave the portfolio there and will see it go to insignificant earnings in record time.  :'( it is pointless now to upload there.

So sad...

Bye Felicia

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