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Wow, seems like getty wants a piece of this pie too. Where are the images coming from, istock, getty open and what do they cost

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$99 for the small print (18x12 inches) on canvas up to $374 for extra large (48x32 inches) on acrylic.

A lot of wedge I'd say

I got an e-mail about that this week sometime. I actually thought it was an innovative idea in comparison to recent attempts of the market. Keep people paying getty anyway instead of Zazzle or similar.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 02, 2014, 10:13 »
First my account was blocked, then yesterday it disappeared. Today it reappeared again. No response via email from support, so I called. "Diego" says his supervisor has to call me back to determine why my account was blocked. In the meantime, I can see they owe me $70.97. I want my money sent and my account deleted.
Mine was blocked :) per request. So far I haven't seen or heard about them sending me any portion of the $5.25. lol. They have sent two messages through their support since deactivating my account, not like I can read them though. lol

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 02, 2014, 05:12 »
Well that's my whole portfolio deleted!

It doesn't matter how much publicity they get if they don't have any photos to sell, but as there will always be people uploading to them your probably right!

Anyway at least I know they wont have mine...Now onto building my own site with Symbiostock :)

Welcome :) If you need any help I think most of us frequent the symbiostock forum at least daily. It's not 24/7 support but, if you can wait a few hours depending on the time of day or week generally EVERYONE is willing to lend a hand.

Thanks DallasP, that's very kind of you to mention that. I think Symbiostock is a great idea, Leo and the others ( sorry don't know any other names ) have done fantastic so far. I will definitely be trying to get my site off the ground, so I'll being asking lots of silly questions no doubt, as I can draw...but suck with technology :(

I can't draw and am ok at technology ;) Ask any silly question you need.

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yes there is no need for big mass agencies in future. I also think apart from Symbiostock will that thinking going forward.
Why do we need agencies today?

1. They make the billing for us.
2. They resolve for us the technical problems to run our own website.
3. They make promotion and generate buyers (The new promoter in future is Google not an Agency).

But these three points are less important in future cause it will be easier to do it yourself.

Specialized agencies will be always exist in my opinion. Cause they take it down to a specific theme to find the buyers rare pictures.
And these buyers, it does not come so much on the price.

I think in a different dimension the current version of the stock market could have worked forever. As a graphic designer primarily, I know that all designers love imagery, and good imagery is even better. Most businesses don't have the means to produce their own. But, ALL businesses need it. Yeah, some steal it, actually many ... As do many graphic artists. Which is why it's increasingly important to have all of the watchful eyes here that we do.

If we'd have spun this around ... Maybe, when web browsers could start displaying images(or when people started painting in caves). Made people more aware that many things are the property of someone else ... and combined that with the simple idea that cheaper isn't generally better ... crap runs downhill ...

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 02, 2014, 04:41 »
Well that's my whole portfolio deleted!

It doesn't matter how much publicity they get if they don't have any photos to sell, but as there will always be people uploading to them your probably right!

Anyway at least I know they wont have mine...Now onto building my own site with Symbiostock :)

Welcome :) If you need any help I think most of us frequent the symbiostock forum at least daily. It's not 24/7 support but, if you can wait a few hours depending on the time of day or week generally EVERYONE is willing to lend a hand.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 01, 2014, 20:37 »
If you mean native English speaker, how about this.

Earlier in 2014, Fotolia introduced the Dollar Photo Club, a stock site with all Fotolia's photos and illustrations but with very different pricing. Although Fotolia is presenting this site as exclusive and targeted at high volume buyers, the reality is that for just $10 a month you can sign up for a 10-image "subscription" - $1 per  image, all sizes. Anyone can sign up - and some contributors who had never purchased a single image were sent the offer e-mail!

And the contributor makes a subscription royalty for each sale. Subscription prices without a requirement for the buyer to commit to a high volume of purchases is very very bad news for contributor income.

Contributors were not notified about the drastically different pricing and were initially told there was no way to opt out of this sales channel - except by leaving Fotolia. With the encouragement of a group of contributors pledging to remove their files if things didn't change, Fotolia has relented and provided an option to opt-out of sales at Dollar Photo Club (referred to as DPC in the Contributor Profile)

You can read Fotolia's intentions in their own words in this TechCrunch article:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/29/dollarphotoclub-expands-into-more-markets-hits-11000-users/

"In an effort to take on the entrenched players in the States, namely Shutterstock and iStock, he created DollarPhotoClub as a pricing play to break into the US." and "Its disrupting the business model of the two big U.S. players..."

If Dollar Photo Club succeeds, what will get disrupted is contributor income - this is replacing higher royalties with lower, not opening new markets or finding new buyers (and early responses on Twitter and Facebook indicate that's exactly what's happening).

So for your own sake, at a minimum opt out of Dollar Photo Club - on Fotolia, when logged in, it's in Profile, then Contributor Parameters. You could also consider whether or not it makes sense to support an agency that treats its contributors so shabbily. Remember, the opt out only became available as people started deleting work from Fotolia.

It was 28 million plus images; today, it's 27 million and falling.


Couple small edits but, I borrowed this for

Hi Robert,

I'm not sure if you've heard the news about quite a number of us microstockers boycotting Fotolia because of the "Dollar Photo Club" launched earlier this year. We've already dropped somewhere around 500,000 images at the time of writing off of Fotolia including many accounts that have been entirely deactivated. The protest started in Russia and as such many other countries didn't catch wind of it until just a few days ago. In an effort to help expand our approach and brighten the outcome of a relatively successful deactivation day I thought I'd contact you, as you and your sites are influential in the microstock community.

Just in case you haden't heard about it yet,


Earlier in 2014, Fotolia introduced the Dollar Photo Club, a stock site with all Fotolia's photos and illustrations but with very different pricing. Although Fotolia is presenting this site as exclusive and targeted at high volume buyers, the reality is that for just $10 a month you can sign up for a 10-image "subscription" - $1 per  image, all sizes. Anyone can sign up - and some contributors who had never purchased a single image were sent the offer e-mail!

The contributor makes a subscription royalty for each sale. Subscription prices without a requirement for the buyer to commit to a high volume of purchases is very very bad news for contributor income.

Contributors were not notified about the drastically different pricing and were initially told there was no way to opt out of this sales channel - except by leaving Fotolia. With the encouragement of a group of contributors pledging to remove their files if things didn't change, Fotolia has relented and provided an option to opt-out of sales at Dollar Photo Club (referred to as DPC in the Contributor Profile)

You can read Fotolia's intentions in their own words in this TechCrunch article:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/29/dollarphotoclub-expands-into-more-markets-hits-11000-users/

"In an effort to take on the entrenched players in the States, namely Shutterstock and iStock, he created DollarPhotoClub as a pricing play to break into the US." and "Its disrupting the business model of the two big U.S. players..."

If Dollar Photo Club succeeds, what will get disrupted is contributor income - this is replacing higher royalties with lower, not opening new markets or finding new buyers (and early responses on Twitter and Facebook indicate that's exactly what's happening).

If there is anything you can/or are willing to do to assist us in our efforts it would be greatly appreciated. You can find out more and read the arguments of the community at
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-(deactivation-day)-may-1

http://boycottfotolia.org/en/answer.html#.U2LxiPldV8H

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Shutterstock.com / Re: ShutterTalk?
« on: May 01, 2014, 17:44 »
Maybe if I went I could learn how to get images accepted ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 01, 2014, 16:17 »
Officially watching from the sidelines :)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 01, 2014, 12:47 »
What is with pic workflow, picniche, stock performer,etc. We are their clients and they participate and live from the health of the stock market too?

I've had e-mail contact with picniche/picworkflow in the past. I'm sure that if he'd have noticed what was going on he'd have done whatever possible in support of us and d-day. It really was such short notice for so many, especially in the states. Luckily, I'm lazy so my portfolio is small and easy to delete. ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 01, 2014, 12:40 »
Hello Guys,
I think until now d-day is really big success for all of us - but what will happen afterwards?
One idea from me - somebody of the russian initiatores should write a press release about this initiative ... then we should translate it into the most important languages and send it to all media we can, especially online-media and spezialized press. This could give our initiative a lot of more power ...
Thanks to all for participating in d-day!

I think its a great idea. But we must do something more.Maybe we msut talk with the other agencies and ask them to work TOGETHER against this rubbish.

In one post in another forum there was the idea to make a youtube video and viral marketing to get in contact with the other contributors

I was deleting mine during an "On Air" hangout last night if that counts ...

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 30, 2014, 19:00 »
Still a good 6 hours early for me here. But, I wasn't about to let all of you guys have the fun without me. I deleted all the photos and sent this

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 30, 2014, 10:58 »
However, pulling my images from Fotolia would not make much sense for me, because then I would loose several thousand dollar a month.

I actually kind of wonder if it matters at all ... In fact, hopefully customers catch wind of this crap and move from ft to maybe .... Dreamstime, that'd be grand.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 30, 2014, 00:04 »
Focusing a lot on mat and not on the problem.

I'm glad I got my own stuff off of dpc... However, I think that it should be a bit more obvious and maybe even mass e-mailed out to contributors...

I didn't realize how crappy it was when they first introduced the program in January. I still just want my files off Fotolia, I don't care for business practices that hide things (and obviously aren't above lying) to their partners. Hopefully they have a lot of Mats.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 29, 2014, 19:43 »
Are you employed by Fotolia?

Yes, after volunteering as a moderator in the Fotolia forum for many years I made the decision to leave the restaurant business I had been in for more than 25 years and turn my focus to my true passion of photography.  The timing was fortuitous as an opening came available on the Customer Service team at Fotolia that I happily accepted this past September...

Thanks for the clarification, Mat. I hope you realize that this was misleading, though, by earlier emphasizing the point that you are a contributor but never mentioning that you are an employee as well.

I also hope you realize that misrepresenting yourself only adds to the mistrust we already feel towards many agencies these days. Since you are a contributor, you know as well as all of us that it isn't easy being in the microstock business, especially recently. Many companies look to exploit every angle and opportunity to get the most profit from our work while paying us the least amount possible.

So you coming in here acting like a regular joe, hawking the DPC product and expecting us to buy into it all while under the employ of the very company that sells the product is pretty shady.

Frankly, it doesn't speak well to what Fotolia is about today. We need more honesty in this business, not less. I'm opted out of DPC, not just because I think it's a bad deal for artists but also because I'm concerned about the direction Fotolia seems to be going in. If you are truly intent on doing a good job for Fotolia and representing the company here and as a customer service rep in a positive way, I hope we can expect to see some better contributor relations going forward. That needs to include some real transparency and disclosure.

Fair enough Mike, thanks for the feedback.  The truth is, this forum is very hostile.  Yes, my employment status has changed in recent months, but sharing that here was not something I felt compelled to do.  It's not about being "shady" it's simply an unpleasant place to attempt a reasonable discussion/debate or to share news.  How many times have we seen agency representatives attempt to engage in a discussion here only to get the digital equivalent of an angry mob with pitchforks and torches?  I've been a member of this forum a lot longer than I've been an employee at Fotolia and I know how this place works. 

My offer stands, I've shared my email address [email protected].  Feel free to write to me directly if you have any questions, (reasonable) comments or concerns and I will do my best to respond as quickly as possible.

Kind regards,

Mat

+1 This place is quite negative. I didn't see any offer but, can you schedule my portfolio for deletion and take any portion of the $5.25 I've earned and keep it or send it to paypal? Thanks Mat.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 29, 2014, 16:03 »
^^^ Shut up about Symbiostock. Keep this on topic. Fotolia and the DPC.

+1 Agreed, I just didn't want the high traffic of this thread taking that opinion to heart.

As far as Fotolia, I'm thinking my portfolio will be gone May 1 anyway ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 29, 2014, 15:52 »
we should make these greedy and destructive agencies superfluous.


SYMBIOSTOCK!!!!!


I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why.


Hey Ron,
I think I got mine working ok. http://www.symbiostock.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1449&p=13405#p13405

But, there are a herd of e-commerce applications available that let you sell digital goods. To be quite honest though, without paying for one and the support involved you'll be running into more problems anyway. The support of the Symbiostock community is probably one of a kind, I wouldn't be so quick to judge.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 29, 2014, 15:04 »
Mat,

I think it's total crap that they want to give away the vector for a measly dollar. I wouldn't mind them deciding to branch them off and sell the small image for the same price as fotolia (since I've been collecting those little sub sales since I started) ... But, to give away the larges and the vectors for a buck ... You people are effing crazy to think that that is going to increase our revenue. You'd better check the water cooler over there at ft, you'd have to have been drugged to think this is a good idea.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 28, 2014, 12:18 »
Increadible - nearly every new posting gives us more arguments to fight against DPC!!!

I almost don't even care, I'll probably delete my portfolio anyway. Getting those .13 sales is pretty depressing, and add on the fact that I'm getting 0 traffic and that the jerks want to try and pull a maneuver like this, without even taking our opinions into account ... If contributors aren't worth anything to them then we might as well be elsewhere anyway.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: April 27, 2014, 22:46 »
The deadline is too short.  Many contributors outside Russia know nothing yet from the D-day!

i also think that we need more time to gather our forces!

Its a great project thank you for that and 100% support from me.
We are all strong together. Social Media we should also use.
We are many and together have more skills and labor force than any single agency.

Agreed that it's going to be tough to get everyone on board. But, I signed the petition and shared it on facebook, g+ and linkedin...

Hopefully, if everyone is being active in trying to get the word out we can have a pretty good effort.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: FTP upload gone foobar
« on: January 03, 2014, 20:13 »
I've been trying to submit for about an hour, you can't submit eps files on their web uploader .. FTP is acting terrible, and the stupid content editor keeps kicking out one of the 10 needed to submit :( so frustrated.

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Site Related / Re: Merry Christmas!
« on: December 31, 2013, 18:25 »
Merry Christmas everyone!  I hope you all manage to take a little time off,

Yessir I am in Fiji for Christmas

relax,

Unfortunately only at the end of the day when I am completely gassed....I sleep very well.



drink something warm,

Having a nice Fijian coffee now as a matter of fact.


and have a super holiday. 

It is indeed super.



Thanks for being part of Microstockgroup.. without you all this place would be a bit lonely  :)

Thank you for putting up with me this year.  Without msg I am not sure where I'd go to mingle with counterparts. It is much appreciated by me personally and I suspect most everyone else here.


Hope everyone sees improvements in the ms world for 2104 and shoots a sea of excellent work.....no pun intended....we'll maybe a little.

Oh hell, 2104 ... Hopefully I'm doing something else by then. Happy 2014 to all though!

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Fotolia and lesson to be learnt.
« on: December 25, 2013, 12:05 »
I suppose the illustration world at fotolia is a little different, I rarely get rejections ... and to think, I was contemplating buying a new slr ;)
SS on the other hand, I can not get accepted for the life of me. lol

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: No regular sales in stats
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:25 »
I might just be a hobbyist at best but, I'm not sure why we'd be arguing about the policies of istock. We're all in the same boat are some people naive?

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wull shoot, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong ... I drag the widgets over there but I'm not getting any response from it no matter where I put them.

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Hmmm... I got latest to work using the shortcode for the slider. Which I suppose is sufficient for now ... Is there a shortcode for categories? :/

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