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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor Page "502 Bad Gateway"
« on: April 14, 2017, 08:57 »
Public holidays never affected my sales much, I had 2 good years of stable income but since November, Im seeing 30% drop and this April, so far, Im about 50% down on last year... I cant be angry, I expected it because Im not very productive and the good run had to eventually end.. but it was a very sudden drop and this month seems overall like a bad joke.. a very long April Fools Day :-/

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor Page "502 Bad Gateway"
« on: April 14, 2017, 08:18 »
This started right after the history sales "update".

Are they trying to imply that our sales are history now?  :D

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Adobe stock
« on: April 05, 2017, 14:43 »
I joined Adobe stock 3 months ago. Now with some 400 images, I earn around 150 euro a month. It is a bit disappointing because I get twice as much at 123rf, with the same amount of images. Looking at the Poll results on the right and comparing numbers for 123 and Fotolia, I was hoping for a better result. But it is better than nothing, I guess..

300 euro with 400 images at months at 123rf. i have 3000 images mostlytravel and editorial ok , i earn no more than 8 bucks at month...the worst site i contribute by far....fotolia is not even 1/10 of ss 1/6 of stock an even 1/3 of dreamtime.
maybe in 123rf and foltoia they sell mostly people shot. i don't know...a return per year of 10 bucks per image in 123rf?

I get paid out in dollars at 123rf. Im with six agencies and all pay in dollars except for Adobe/FT - I dont know why Adobe pays me out in Euro, probably because Im in the EU country. I didnt find any option to change it to dollars. And yes, I make around 300 dollars at 123rf with 400 images. In March I had 306 dollars and 410 sales. Im getting many credit sales - the XXL sales which range between 3-5 dollars each. In reverse at Adobe/FT Im getting mostly subscription sales, usually 0,27 euro... And like I said, I put only my good-sellers on both 123 and Adobe stock. I have bigger portfolio at Shutterstock but I didnt want to put my old worse images to the sites which were relatively new to me.

You keep doubting anyone who post their income, is it a hobby of yours? I dont get it :-/

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Adobe stock
« on: March 25, 2017, 05:49 »
I joined Adobe stock 3 months ago. Now with some 400 images, I earn around 150 euro a month. It is a bit disappointing because I get twice as much at 123rf, with the same amount of images. Looking at the Poll results on the right and comparing numbers for 123 and Fotolia, I was hoping for a better result. But it is better than nothing, I guess..
Wow! That's impressive, I have about that many images but make a fraction of that. Would love to see your port but if I were you I wouldn't share ;)

My images already get copied a lot. I draw people and animals and I often see crippled versions of my images under Similar images in Shutterstock search results. It is like a plague  :( But sincerely, I am surprised to do so well at 123rf, as people here generally report lower earnings at this agency. I suppose vectors sell better than photos there? I dont have the same success with other agencies though - Dreamstime is doing poorly for me, iStock was never good for me even in the "better days", Depositphotos was poor (but I stopped uploading there ages ago..). It seems certain portfolio may fit customers at certain agency and I was lucky with 123.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Adobe stock
« on: March 25, 2017, 05:25 »
I joined Adobe stock 3 months ago. Now with some 400 images, I earn around 150 euro a month. It is a bit disappointing because I get twice as much at 123rf, with the same amount of images. Looking at the Poll results on the right and comparing numbers for 123 and Fotolia, I was hoping for a better result. But it is better than nothing, I guess..
If you're getting 300 euro a month from 400 images on 123rf, you're doing better than over 99% of us.

To be fair, it didnt happen overnight. I joined 123 about one and half year ago and my monthly earnings were growing slowly at first, it took about six months to get 100 dollars monthly, then the growth was faster. Now Im getting between 250-350 USD a month there, in the recent six months. I put only the better part of my portfolio there, the proven good-sellers.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Adobe stock
« on: March 25, 2017, 04:49 »
I joined Adobe stock 3 months ago. Now with some 400 images, I earn around 150 euro a month. It is a bit disappointing because I get twice as much at 123rf, with the same amount of images. Looking at the Poll results on the right and comparing numbers for 123 and Fotolia, I was hoping for a better result. But it is better than nothing, I guess..

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So... this vector "artist"... joined in 2016... and by now has 428,000 images in his port...

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/icparvu

And thats how Shutterstock gets their 200 million of excellent premium quality CREATIVE and ORIGINAL images!... sickening...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Shutterstock Dashboard??
« on: February 20, 2017, 14:13 »
No, I dont believe they will bring back the old Homepage. They already invested time and effort to come up with the new one and they sent the self-praising email... They almost dont react to the 20 pages of negative comments in the SS forum. Maybe they will do a few changes, as a compromise. At least I hope.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock - New earning table design
« on: February 05, 2017, 02:27 »
if you go here you can still get to the full overview

https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml?date=2017-02-04

just  adjust the date at the end

Perfection! Many thanks!  :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock - New earning table design
« on: February 03, 2017, 04:04 »
Works fine, shows everything.....

Seriously? I need to see how my new images are performing and they have removed sorting by ID or Date uploaded from both the Earning stats and Image Gallery Stats. I know my all time best sellers. I need to know the performance of my newest images. If it makes any sense to keep uploading... Where can you find it? I cant see it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Keywords missing !!
« on: February 02, 2017, 14:25 »
yeah, thanks the Microstock God! So there is someone working there after all....

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The end of microstock probably?

The end of microstock and the beginning of nanostock...  ;D....... ???....... :-\....... >:(....... :'(

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Keywords missing !!
« on: February 01, 2017, 16:29 »
The images are still searchable with all your keywords. Try it. The keywords are just not shown under the thumbnail. So I suppose buyers can still find the images in searches using the keywords which are just not visible. I dont know... I dont have the nerves for this anymore...  >:(

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 25, 2017, 05:55 »
I had a decent monthly income from Shutterstock for about 2 years although I didnt add many new images. This stable income tanked on the 22 November and never recovered since then. I guess it might have been algorithm change. I was about 40% down on number of DLs in December, the income was saved by a couple of huge SODs at the end of the year.... January so far is quite poor, still 30-40% drop on DLs and income. I dont think it will get better, probably worse.

It forced me to finally go through with my plan B.. I joined Adobe :D I put around 300 of my better vectors there, earned some 120 euro in the first month. It is not even close to cover my loss from SS though :'( Lets see what 2017 brings us..

When you say you joined Adobe as your plan B isn't this just Fotolia?! I thought Adobe bought them last year if I'm wrong I would love to know more.

Sam

I read in another thread in this forum that it is no longer possible to create new contributor accounts at Fotolia, that people must get an Adobe ID and create an account at Adobe site.

I have an old Adobe ID which I got when I bought Adobe Illustrator a few years ago so I used it and it worked. As far as I understand, the images I uploaded at Adobe are offered for sale both at Adobe Stock and at Fotolia.

Unfortunately, the sales information at my contributor account there is so brief - there is no indication which images were sold at Adobe and which at Fotolia. There is only a short note at my Adobe account summary saying that my status at Fotolia is bronze. It was white when I started, it turned to bronze immediately after I got 100 sales total (probably both Adobe and Fotolia sales?..).

I was joking when I said it was my plan B. It cannot replace my loss at Shutterstock, Im still 40% down since November last year and it is not coming back. It sucks big time.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 12, 2017, 05:31 »
I had a decent monthly income from Shutterstock for about 2 years although I didnt add many new images. This stable income tanked on the 22 November and never recovered since then. I guess it might have been algorithm change. I was about 40% down on number of DLs in December, the income was saved by a couple of huge SODs at the end of the year.... January so far is quite poor, still 30-40% drop on DLs and income. I dont think it will get better, probably worse.

It forced me to finally go through with my plan B.. I joined Adobe :D I put around 300 of my better vectors there, earned some 120 euro in the first month. It is not even close to cover my loss from SS though :'( Lets see what 2017 brings us..

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Go to shutterstock forum and report it there.

Dont. I did a similar thing - my post was removed and I got a warning from forum moderator. Apparently they allow spammers spamming happily for many months but they dont allow other contributors to point it out. And thats why Im done with SS forums.

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This looks like the final nail in the coffin...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock search change??
« on: November 30, 2016, 06:58 »
Im seeing about 50% drop since 22 November. Typically, I would have 100+ DLs on a working day so I can see a difference. Im also in Europe, contributor since 2011.

Most of my best sellers are about 2-3 years old, I have very few files from the last six months - so I cant complain, I should have done more new work...  :-\  It may be an algorithm change - some people are seeing increase in sale in the same period. Hopefully it will swing back at some point  :)

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We should get the message out? Dont they have a list of spammers and their email addresses? Shouldnt they have this list ready a few months ago? Instead of waiting and letting the problem spread..

Many of our images lost their position in search due to spammers and the position will never recover. If they acted sooner, this didnt have to happen. It affected our monthly payouts for many months.

So yeah, it is good they finally started to do something but there is a bitter taste to it and many unanswered questions.

I also dont think the accounts will be deleted. They will probably be only disabled. And maybe when they change the description, they will be reinstated and all their images will be back in their former positions?...

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It took them six months to react. And during these six months, all spammers were cashing in, while decent contributors were losing money. Now 20 accounts got deleted... like a drop in the ocean considering the number of spammers probably reached hundreds during six months of SS allowing this practice...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Petition to stop spammers
« on: November 19, 2016, 03:56 »
There is no way Shutterstock would disable or close accounts of those spammers... Many of them are image factories producing hundreds of images a week. SS worked hard to get to their lovely 100 million by approving every cr*p anyone submitted, now they are going for 150 million, then 200 million...

Who in SS cares that half of it are almost identical simple icons with 50 shades of grey background?... They will never remove the spammers, they NEED their images.

And of course if they wanted to at least remove their advantage in search results, they would have done it already months ago. How long is it, since June?........It is pathetic.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Petition to stop spammers
« on: November 07, 2016, 00:56 »
Ethics is one thing, some people may mock it.. But for me it is more about my followers. I have over six hundred followers on SS and even though my port is not that big, my income is decent and has been decent for a couple of years now, most probably thanks to them.

I care for my port and how it is presented to customers. I have my vector files neatly organized, I name all objects and groups, I keep the anchor points number minimal for maximum editability.  I dont want my buyers to think that I went full retard by repeating the same word in the description field 50 times like those image factories squirting out hundreds of vectors a day - which include the same simple icon in a hundred colour combinations..

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Petition to stop spammers
« on: November 06, 2016, 09:29 »
>:( After climb up to the top. Spammer edited it back to normal. so depressed. T T


all of us who aren't using spamming are fools
No, we are cowards. These guys risk consciously. Smart and brave.

Im sorry but what? Cowards? I would die of shame if I had anything like that in my portfolio! I signed the petition with my full name. But - I dont believe Shutterstock wants to deal with it. They had enough time. For some reason it is beneficial to them and maybe the number of buyers who complain about the practice is not as high as we think. But so be it. Even if every contributor puts the effin spam in their decriptions, I wont.

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Let's assume that i'll upload 1 000 000 good shots today.......
My question is: How long does it take to make a decent income from 1 000 000 photos? How many months/years must pass with that million photos already accepted to start earn a living?

I find these types of questions so seriously annoying.. And this one is particularly nonsensical  >:(

How many contributors do you think have EVER uploaded one million photos on one day? How many contributors do you think even have one million photos in their portfolios? Who do you think can truthfully answer this question?

And moreover - is anyone of us a fortuneteller? Do we see into future? The environment in microstock have changed tremendously in last couple of years, the number of images in the databases of agencies have gone up from a few million to more than 100 million, solely on Shutterstock... The conditions for growth are not the same anymore, they are quite different and changing as we speak. So any previous experience regarding number of images in port, increase of income etc... cannot be automatically applied on whatever will happen in future.

Are you just trolling? Unlike you, some people still take this business seriously.

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123RF / Re: 123RF - New contributor dashboard
« on: July 26, 2016, 03:59 »
This looks good, thanks for letting know. But one thing I am missing - the number of credits? I can only see my "Contributor Level:4" at the home page but I cannot find the credit total for the last 12 months. Can you see it anywhere?

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