Actually I'm having very good June so far, even if there are a few weekdays with frighteningly low number of downloads.

I never see these yellow boxes with "ad"
probably ads aren't targeted to every country?

oh... i just had to turn off the adblock...

Quote from: Desintegrator on June 04, 2014, 09:09

...Also to do the thing you described we need to contact buyers, which for many of us seems to be way more hopeless than finding other contributors. Basicly that's way we are using agencies. I have really now idea who are the people who actually buy stock images, where to find them, where to contact them. That kind of an invisible world for me. Of course it can e different for some of you.
But i' seeing much better chance to find contributors to inform than to find buyers.

That's understandable. We're contributors so the contributor world is more accessible to us. Buyers, maybe not so much.

If contributors are who someone has access to, then by all means, contact contributors. But maybe instead of just asking them to opt out of DPC, also mention a good company you recommend. I'd have to assume that if so many contributors aren't aware of DPC (probably contributors who don't participate in this forum, read contributor blogs, etc) then they might also not know about some of the good lesser-known companies available to them. I think we could see just as much positive change for a good company as we've seen in negative change for DPC, adding more images to a good agency and giving them more to work with, more to sell, more to offer their customers.

yes, that's good approach. When explaining why is DPC bad for the market it's convenient to include examples of agencies which show progress in selling images at higher price points and even giving better commissions.

Quote from: pkphotos on June 04, 2014, 06:28

It requires a united effort from united photographers. 5 minutes less time browsing this forum spent emailing one photographer with photos on DPC is effort well spent

I disagree. DPC numbers are going back up again. This effort is going nowhere.

I'd much rather see people spend 5 minutes doing something to help a good company. Upload some images to a small company that pays 50% or more. Post to fb or twitter about a good company you support and encourage people to check out. Instead of emailing contacting contributors to get them to opt out, maybe contact contributors and encourage them to upload to a lesser-known site that pays well.

I view things like this as equally (if not more more) important than trying to get DPC numbers down (which obviously isn't working anyway). Imagine if we rallied around a small company in the same way we tried to rally against DPC and added 7 million images to an up-and-comer. Fotolia doesn't care if we took away 7 million images from DPC. But maybe they'd take more notice if we took away 7 million images and then helped push one of their competitors a little further up in the tiers.

I partly agree, partly not.

Generally agree about the a positive approach could be better, like supporting the good thing instead of fighting against the bad.

Still, these efforts are never in vain. As you can see there are still contributors with no idea about DPC. Even if we can't stop DPC, they at least deserve to know what's happening to their images, to the stock market, and the more opt out the better.

Also to do the thing you described we need to contact buyers, which for many of us seems to be way more hopeless than finding other contributors. Basicly that's way we are using agencies. I have really now idea who are the people who actually buy stock images, where to find them, where to contact them. That kind of an invisible world for me. Of course it can e different for some of you.
But i' seeing much better chance to find contributors to inform than to find buyers.

But the growth of DPC's collection is bigger than in Fotolia's

Mine started terribly but turned out pretty good at the end

Quote from: Shelma1 on May 30, 2014, 10:53

We have joined together and made a difference. Fotolia offered an opt out only after we did that. I see the glass as half full here. For maybe the first time, a very large group of people from all corners of the world joined together to take action against a microstock agency. If there's a next time, we know joining together will work. And since we have this success under our belts, we can probably reach even more people next time. We've shown that we have some power. We're not alone, and we're not too small to make a difference.

I agree. Let me add:

What is holding us back to prevent these huge screw-ups from happening in the future by informing the agencies now where our limits are?

If you stay opted in it means you are clearly informing the agencies that they still haven't reached your limit

Fotolia contacted me in email asking if i'm available for a call about rejoining DPC. I just replied explaining my thoughts on DPC, and that i'm totally against it. Got no call

It really seems to be that they are making an effort to get contributors back. I'm far from being among the really big contributors.
So we are making an impact on them. That's good.

Haha, got it too.

I love how they are trying to explain that zero commission is good for me

I just got an email today from a friendly member here letting me know about this DPC on fotolia. I'm in shock! THANK YOU for letting me know!!!! I have opted out.

Be sure to inform every contributor you can possibly reach.
As you can see it's hard to reach many of them, we are doing it for more than 3 weeks now.
Now DPC has almost 7million less images than Fotolia, but still plenty of contributors don't even have a clue about their images being sold there.

I've just read this tax thing here... it makes me think if it's worth to upload to them..

Also, they are planning a commission from July!
Commissions will start from 22% and you will need 1500 downloads in a year, to get to 33% which is the current basic level.

Opt-outs are still coming..
And this should be up front, as the option is still pretty hidden, and Fotolia is still silent about it.