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« on: May 19, 2014, 05:27 »
I'm following the number of search results for "background" and after a brief rise i thinks it's back to an all time low again . That's good. Anyone know who's behind "Africa Studio"? Would be nice to see those over 400.000 high quality images go. (although it's not impossible that Fotolia gave some special deals for contributors that important..)
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« on: May 17, 2014, 18:06 »
After a little bit of increase the number of pictures on DPC decreased again . Which is good, more and more people hear about the possibility of opting out. Everyone learning about it should inform all contributors he can reach too. There's still plenty of them without a clue about DPS's existence.
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« on: May 17, 2014, 16:51 »
Seeing and increase in subs volumes, no increase in commissions - can't say yet if I'm getting subs instead of credit sales or at the expense of sales on other sites
I've noticed the increased percentage of sub sales too. (I'm opted out of DPC)
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« on: May 17, 2014, 15:16 »
I'm okay with Shutterstock as the leader subscription site. They have big volume in downloads, they seem to constantly invest in reaching new markets and they have been able to slowly raise the return per download over the years. They do a good job.
As for non subscription site I also prefer Pond5. You can set your own price for every file, 50% commission, and now photo sales are starting to move there do. And their support is really responsive and helpful.
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« on: May 16, 2014, 04:42 »
After some browsing on DPC here are a few big a good portfolios i have bumped into. Do you recognize any of these contributors? Maybe some of you know how to get in touch with some of them. Andrey Starostin 57,173 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200372439.shock 55,279 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=5387ra2 studio 37,988 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=201929192Matthew Cole 36,230 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200825211Pakhnyushchyy 29,111 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=303405lenets_tan 21,825 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=202762530Galyna Andrushko 20,591 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=57392Natika 19,411 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200470261olly 17870 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200460681Yuriy Shevtsov 17,541 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200927967Viorel Sima 15,605 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200901067Voyagerix 14,468 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200558077iko 14,244 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=16372Luis Louro 13,065 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200884309Kirsty Pargeter 12,364 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=22441Gorilla 12,191 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=39953peshkova 10,894 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=202049166blankstock 10,186 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=203708829Hemeroskopion 9,956 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=201065439underworld 9,644 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200884422jayfish 9,497 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=302411magann 7,733 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=299402Warren Goldswain 7,689 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=201220858Giuseppe Porzani 8,286 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=199694william87 7,445 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200903171oly5 7423 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=202819061BlueOrange Studio 7,136 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=358031jovannig 6531 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200879245Coka 6,355 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=93857Leonid & Anna Dedukh 6,320 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200759559Sailorr 6,259 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200736646adrenalinapura 6,271 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=201571389Iakov Kalinin 6,119 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200570294Gino Santa Maria 6,098 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=54959puckillustrations 6,096 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200952641Nik_Merkulov 6,066 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=202316842merydolla 5,762 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=203366513Nomad_Soul 5,756 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=201587450Kushnirov Avraham 5,688 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=131180Roman Sigaev 5,576 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=124096Kalim 4,324 http://www.dollarphotoclub.com/Search?creator_id=200520350
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« on: May 15, 2014, 16:24 »
are they actually giving option to opt out, I sent an email to request it, the reply was just advertising how good that dollar club thing was, I am running out of patince with them, I am not away from that magical click and remove my work!!!!!
My Account / My Profile / Contributor Parameters.. below "Sell my files on DPC", click "Modify" next to it. Make the text change to "don't sell my files on DPC", save settings
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« on: May 15, 2014, 16:00 »
Here is the page if your logged in http://photodune.net/author/top_authorsDoes Envato's vector site have something similar? I'm not familiar with that. If we agree upon the message to send, we could divide the task like someone doing page one, other one doing page 2, etc..
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« on: May 15, 2014, 15:51 »
Oh, c'mon, Mike You're a bit pessimistic Yes, this steps are very small - but even these steps would not have been if not for all of you activity That's no reason to give up. Fighting with the DPC, of course, continues.
Realistic, not pessimistic. If there's still a fight to be had, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that this isn't working. We never even got the image count at DPC below 21 million and it's already on it's way back up. We can't reach the vast majority of contributors who are basically anonymous, who don't even know about this forum, and many of whom don't even know they're on DPC. I'm sure that to some extent Fotolia was counting on that.
If you still want to do something, figure out how to reach those people. Otherwise this is pretty much already over.
Well, what can we do? What magazines, websites, newspapers do typical contributors read? Maybe we need to get a paid ad on/in those media. Maybe a journalist wants to pick up the story? Many people here have a day job as well, maybe they can help. Maybe they know people. Unfortunately I dont. One problem is that not everyone reads the same media as we are spread over many countries. But I think we need to target the USA, France, Germany, the UK and Russia and that is probably the majority of the contributors. I just have no idea how to do that. Lets hope the emails I have sent will have an affect. How does one get the EU to investigate if Fotolia broke the EU law? They investigated Microsoft, Google and Facebook, how did that happen?
It may not be the nicest thing to do, but Photodune has a list of contributors sorted by number of sales and lets you send them an email. So we could start with the biggest contributors, and move all the way down. We don't know who of them is still on DPC, but maybe the ones opted out could just ignore the message and move. If some could sum up the situation in a convincing and good way in a not too long message to be sent to everyone? My English and communication skill may not be good enough for it.
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« on: May 15, 2014, 11:37 »
When did the DPC officially go online?
Looking at my stats from January 1, 2014 through today, I see my sales have doubled at FT starting in mid-March. However, that was when I went full-time with microstock illustration and have quadrupled my submissions. So I'm hoping my increase is from my hard work and not the DPC
I've seen no noticeable decrease in sales more than 2 week after opting out
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« on: May 15, 2014, 10:09 »
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« on: May 15, 2014, 10:08 »
I don't get it, I still get 0.29 per subscription download (XL size).
I'm opted out of DPC.
Did I misunderstand something?
Most subscription sales are still 0.29, but there are a few bigger ones. I've got some .36, .38, .40, ... but most of them are 0.29 (normal commission at silver)
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« on: May 15, 2014, 09:45 »
Raising entry price to 99 alone would not make DPC supportable at all
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« on: May 15, 2014, 09:30 »
On 3rd May DPC had 18% less files than Fotolia (calculated with the search tearms Business, People, Animal, Nature and Beautiful). On 10th May it was 21%. Today it is 23,9% (or 6.750.000 files less). I suppose that means that since the announcement of the higher subscription royalties, MORE files/contributors are opted out instead of less ... I'm keeping my fingers crossed that their next move will be : DPC entry level 99 $
Doesn't necessarily mean that, as it takes a few days for opted out files to disappear from the searches. But hopefully their numbers will keep on decreasing.
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« on: May 15, 2014, 09:14 »
How to notify even more contributors about all this DPC nonsense? It would be so it easy to make it fail and disappear if we could reach everyone. I don't see how anyone can decide to stay opted in.
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« on: May 13, 2014, 20:47 »
And now, with the starting of this thread, we are officially told that sometimes we got only 5% commission on FT. Ha! I hope it will be really eliminated form now, as that post says. That may help contributors to consider staying with Fotolia, but i don't think it will make them rejoin DPC
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« on: May 13, 2014, 20:06 »
FT have watched 25% of the content of DPC disappear into the ether within two weeks. They are sh*tting themselves. Hold your nerve people. This offer of increased subs royalties at an agency that is being scuppered from within is worthless.
That! Very well said. Don't get distracted by some desperate offer. I will not opt back in for this for sure. It's good to see that contributors could actually make an impact. We should stay on course and inform even more people about it, and make DPC shrink even more. At what conditions would i consider if it' worth joining? Certainly the bar should be raised, at least to the $100 one as it was mentioned here many times. It should also expire. And i want to see that DPC really tries to get into new market for us, not just stealing market share from other agencies also selling our images. And there should be per file based opt in. Then, maybe i would consider opting in my lowest earners.
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« on: May 12, 2014, 17:40 »
I cannot see how anyone can doubt that the right response to Fotolia's sneaky move would be all of us just opting out and leave DPC with content obviously inferior to other sites.
This move is totally unneeded for microstock as whole, it's only greedy and desperate attempt of one company to steal market share from sites selling the same images.
Still we need to spread the world, i bet there are still plenty of contributors not knowing about DPC
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« on: May 12, 2014, 17:16 »
but at this rate it's very possible.
it's also known as herd behavior
I don't mind being part of the herd. However, I do object to the feeling of being milked without my permission or prior consultation.
Personally, I dropped out of the DPC because I can afford to in the short term. If I were heavily invested in FT I would be more likely to adopt a "wait and see and measure" approach - purely on the basis that a significant number of the predictions about the future of microstock here and elsewhere have proved unfounded as far as my experience goes.
Fortunetly DPC is not significant yet, after opting out (and even deleting some old material at Fotolia) my Fotolia sales are just as usual. So I think anyone can afford dropping DPC.
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« on: May 12, 2014, 15:14 »
Am I reading that right...is it close to a million images difference in some categories? Does that mean more than a million have been opted out?
For those keywords yes. I was following the search for "background". In the beginning it had about 8.5 million results on DPC, now it only 6,414,925.
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« on: May 12, 2014, 10:03 »
Maybe we should open a new thread with different title about the way and the importance of opting out of this awful DPC thing, so the occasional forum visitor has more chance to notice. I learned about DPC in this thread, opted out of DPC when the option was introduced, and supported the deactivation day. But for many days before i was seeing this thread and I didn't read it, as I was pretty happy with my Fotolia sales, and the title didn't make me realize what is it about. Also the date "May 1" can discourage some people from reading this thread.
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« on: May 12, 2014, 08:06 »
I think you would get a PILE of hearts on here if you chose not to participate in DPC, but that's your call. DPC is a very destructive strategy to micro stock as a whole.
i'm not in this business for hearts, but for money.
with 8 years of positive experience, we do trust major marketplaces we work with, regarding their marketing efforts.
it's up to you or anyone else to be opted-in or opted-out. none of my business.
i do not ask anyone to opt-in or opt-out. i'm asking you to get some understanding about people who leads the boycott.
if someone is blindfolded by witch hunt now and sees no reason to check "alliance" background - it's ok. like i already said, don't pretend you were unwarned later.
What is your opinion about the DPC business model and that fact that Fotolia tries everything to do it behind the backs of their own image supliers? That's what this thread shoud be about. I don't care about these personal debates...
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« on: May 11, 2014, 10:04 »
Even if Shutterstock pays only around 28% to the authors, I have the feeling that the bigger part of the money is in better hand at Shutterstock than at most other sites. They manage to keep sales growing even if my portfolio and uploaded new files make for tinier and tinier part of their database. And they also manage to slowly raise the average return per download throughout he years.
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« on: May 08, 2014, 10:01 »
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« on: May 08, 2014, 05:04 »
Made a friend with 4000 images opt out today. Still a few million to go
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