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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 04, 2014, 09:50 »
In case one of those unaware contributors happens to read this thread... what would your recommendation be if somebody asked you to name a "good lesser-known company"?

Stockfresh.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 04, 2014, 09:17 »
...Also to do the thing you described we need to contact buyers, which for many of us seems to be way more hopeless than finding other contributors. Basicly that's way we are using agencies. I have really now idea who are the people who actually buy stock images, where to find them, where to contact them. That kind of an invisible world for me. Of course it can e different for some of you.
But i' seeing much better chance to find contributors to inform than to find buyers.

That's understandable. We're contributors so the contributor world is more accessible to us. Buyers, maybe not so much.

If contributors are who someone has access to, then by all means, contact contributors. But maybe instead of just asking them to opt out of DPC, also mention a good company you recommend. I'd have to assume that if so many contributors aren't aware of DPC (probably contributors who don't participate in this forum, read contributor blogs, etc) then they might also not know about some of the good lesser-known companies available to them. I think we could see just as much positive change for a good company as we've seen in negative change for DPC, adding more images to a good agency and giving them more to work with, more to sell, more to offer their customers.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 04, 2014, 09:11 »
This is a bit of a false dichotomy, no? It's not one thing or the other. You can email contributors about DPC and upload to sites that pay a higher percentage, if you wish.

The more photographers know about it, the more they might tell their friends to opt out as well.

Sure you can do both. I was commenting more on the idea of taking 5 minutes and doing something. I'd personally rather use 5 more minutes to do something to add to a good company than worry about taking something away from a bad company. Especially when taking images out of DPC clearly isn't working anymore. The image count is back over 21.8 million and rising.

My point is that we've done the "let's pull our images" thing for years at various agencies and it hasn't done much. And as hard as it is to get people to rally behind a good company I really wish we'd at least try. It can't be any less effective than what we're doing now.

I'm just tired of being negative about things and I'm looking at ways to make positive change. Focusing on the negative and the companies behaving badly isn't helping us. It's time for a new strategy.

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Illustration - General / Re: how to choice?
« on: June 04, 2014, 08:58 »

The poll results absolutely describe the photography market. Don't make any decisions based on the poll.

You can participate in the iStock partner program without being exclusive. In fact, you have no choice but to participate in it if you're non-exclusive. Being exclusive just gives you the option to opt-out of it if you want to.

As for being exclusive, personally I don't see it working out better for anyone, but that's based on my own data. Over the last couple of years my monthly income from iStock has amounted to between 5% and 12% of my monthly totals on average. No where near enough to think I'd do any better by being exclusive. But that's just me. Some people do better. Some worse. Really no one can tell you whether it's right for you or not. It's just one of those things that only you can decide.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 04, 2014, 08:52 »
It requires a united effort from united photographers. 5 minutes less time browsing this forum spent emailing one photographer with photos on DPC is effort well spent

I disagree. DPC numbers are going back up again. This effort is going nowhere.

I'd much rather see people spend 5 minutes doing something to help a good company. Upload some images to a small company that pays 50% or more. Post to fb or twitter about a good company you support and encourage people to check out. Instead of emailing contacting contributors to get them to opt out, maybe contact contributors and encourage them to upload to a lesser-known site that pays well.

I view things like this as equally (if not more more) important than trying to get DPC numbers down (which obviously isn't working anyway). Imagine if we rallied around a small company in the same way we tried to rally against DPC and added 7 million images to an up-and-comer. Fotolia doesn't care if we took away 7 million images from DPC. But maybe they'd take more notice if we took away 7 million images and then helped push one of their competitors a little further up in the tiers.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Can iStock Turn Midstock Sales Around?
« on: June 03, 2014, 16:41 »
If iStock can make midstock work, I don't think it will have been because of Yuri. But he won't let anything stop him from taking credit if it does happen, though.

I think iStock has a viable midstock offering. As amazing as it sounds even as I type it, I have to admit I'm somewhat impressed with how things have been going for me at iStock recently. I have a file that was accepted in early May and priced at 22 credits ($42 USD). Which I would ordinarily think is an insane price point for most of the work I upload there. But it's actually selling. I got 3 sales on that image in May, $21.82 in royalties.

It amazes me that anyone would buy my stuff at that price, but apparently people are willing to spend the money. Maybe there really is something left in the tanks for iStock and they can still surge in this midstock market.

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It's a good deal in some ways. I've heard some people have gotten in the neighborhood of $15,000 to allow Graphicstock to sell their work. For some people, they'd never make that much at most other sites over the course of several years, so it could be a good deal.

I was negotiating with them to sell my work but it fell through because I don't have a big enough portfolio. They thought I had over 1,000 vectors based on my Shutterstock portfolio, but I told them I really have about half that many because of the separate vector/jpg files at SS.

If the price was right, I might have done it. I don't see the harm in it. Sure if they get big enough you might be competing with yourself, having images at Graphicstock and still trying to sell the same images at other places. But that's not going to happen tomorrow. When you cut a deal with them they get your portfolio as it is at the time of the deal. Anything else after that is still exclusively yours. So even if they get big and start to be real competition for other companies, that will take time, maybe years. By then, all of the work you sold them is old stuff.

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