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Maybe interesting.
A comparison of average RPI from some stock photographers.
https://photutorial.com/how-much-can-you-make-selling-stock-photos/


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I think there is more money at microstock as it was 11 years ago.
But its not so easy to collect some of this money as it was 11 years ago.
You either need more images or better images now.

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Hmmm, i think some kind of long tail strategy works with low RPI.

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Euro is better now and in the future.
There are lots of unsustainable debts in the ECB balance sheet.
As soon as people lose their confidence, the Euro is on a downward trend that the ECB will not be able to stop.
The Euro is on the way from the German D-mark to the Italian Lira.
It may be will take a few years but its unstoppable.

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From my point of view i see a benefit being paid in USD.
Probably its just my opinion but i think inflation will get worse in Europe next years.
USD will do better. The 3% PayPal currency exchange rate is annoying but maybe it will be better to keep income in USD at PayPal.
Just if you don't need the microstock money every month at your Euro bank account.



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iStockPhoto.com / Re: January 2023 earnings statement
« on: February 19, 2023, 09:38 »
very low, worst month in years
Also very low

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty takedown request?
« on: February 11, 2023, 02:59 »
They have 6 months to continue to market and license your content even though you requested account closure. It isn't clear what their rights are if they don't get the content pulled from partners within 180 days - I'd argue their rights are terminated even if files are still shown, but  sleazes who don't pay probably would just keep on going!
Probably because eyeem has a contract with Getty Images. 6 months to close an account is quite fast for Getty Images.

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@Alex
I think you have some great drone travel images and footage.
There are lots of costumers willing to pay good money for those images and footage at macrostock.
And there is demand for travel content again.
quote Stock Photography Direct
"Business travel images from outstanding collection robertharding.com. Now that many countries are open to tourists and business travellers, publications and media will need fresh content. "
https://stockphotographydirect.com/index.php?q=Sellers&id_new=1645

 

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: January 21, 2023, 03:30 »
Portfolio Size of Shutterstock Q4 2013 - about 32 million assets.
Portfolio Size of Shutterstock Q3 2015 - about 64 million assets. - growth about 100%
Portfolio Size of Shutterstock Q1 2017 - about 132 million assets. - growth about 100%
Portfolio Size of Shutterstock Q2 2019 - about 260 million assets. - growth about 100%
This is an exponential trend.
Portfolio Size of Shutterstock has risen about 650% from Q4 2013 to Q4 2018
Downloads Shutterstock Q4 2013 - about 28 millions.
Downloads Shutterstock Q4 2018 - about 46,8 million,
There is an increase of portfolio Size at Shutterstock from about 650% - Q4 2013 to Q4 2018
There is an increase of downloads at Shutterstock from about 67,2% - Q4 2013 to Q4 2018
This is a clear stagnation of DL per assets online.
And things do not get better since then. The curve is slight flatten at a high level.




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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: January 19, 2023, 17:13 »

its not easy to replace best sellers with new uploads.
But there is one important parameter to be considered. Downloads per month/images online.
Downloads per images are decreasing with time. In my experience this number will halve in about 4 years.
This is an exponential factor against income of microstock contributors.
For some time you can compensate this factor with better images, more uploads.
At some time you will reach an level of getting better, more uploads, etc,.. then its going downwards.

I was addressing this, (below) from my personal point of view. Yes, to you and anyone else, more images should make more money.  :) RPI, RPD and all that stat stuff, is personal for our own review of our own images.

It also depends on how long you've had the images in your port. The percentage of photos sold should in theary go up over the years

I don't think the percentage of images licensed goes up with age, I think even someone like myself with minimal new images, I've found that the percentage of photos sold has gone down each year.

Old photos are old, they don't age well and they tend to become filler and if no downloads in each additional year, less chance that they will have a download ever.

If I uploaded better new images, then the percentage could go up, but the percentage of old images that have sold, doesn't really improve much with age.

I understand what TonyD is saying, that if I have 5 more images that have never sold, get one sale, and they are online for 10 years, then logically, the percentage of old images sold should go up. But I'm adding new images, so more unsold images are added every year, which offsets the gains from old images that finally got their single first download.

If I hypothetically have only 25% of my images that got a sale (and that's about right) and I add 100 new in 2023, I'll have 75 new images, that have never sold and probably will not.

I expect that for what I do and what I upload, I should hover around 25% = forever, unless I get some amazing event or series that gives a big boost to change the average. Good news is that for people who have 50%, they will probably stay around that 50% for a long time.

It's easier to do down in average than it is to go up.
What i wanted to say is that that there is an exponential declining trend.
If you start microstock photography you will see an increase in DL. On average for about the first 40 +/- months.
The next 40 +/- months you probably will see your DL stagnate. Even if you still uploading the same amount of images every month. After another 40 +/- months you will see a decrease of DL with a much larger portfolio.
So there is an exponential function against you.
Your uploads are linear, your DL per image / month are declining exponential.
After your first 40 months at microstock your DL per image / Month  are X, after 80 months your DL per image/month are X/2, after 120 months your DL per image/month are X/4 - on average.
You can't win against an exponential declining trend.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: January 19, 2023, 13:41 »
If microstock continues to pay peanuts, it will eventually cease to exist with fewer and fewer people wanting to replace their worn-out cameras and instead use smartphones. The agencies will have to lower their standards, especially adobe & SS

HA Ha, how could SS lower their standards? Actually Adobe has been the only one to uphold image requirements and standards. I mean of the Microstock majors, like IS, DT, DP, 123, Alamy and even P5, which have all become easier reviews and seem to take almost anything. There are other places that upheld their standards and quality.

It also depends on how long you've had the images in your port. The percentage of photos sold should in theary go up over the years

Not really, my Crapstock and old images are just that, and most of them will probably never have a download because there are new and better images being made and uploaded. The problem isn't how many images, but what are they?

Just for reference, as you mentioned time, I started in 2008. Some pretty nasty snapshots. I mean I tried, but they aren't what buyers want and need. Then I started to get the idea and added more of what I thought might be better STOCK images, not just things I found around the office or taking a walk in park, making pretty photos.

In 2012 I decided it was time to make a push and add 1,000 new images, different from what I already had. That also improved things. Then I had new ideas and worked on various sets of different areas, planned on being more useful stock, and less creative "art".

Dates for the top 12 earning images. I picked 12 because they are so close in value for the last few.

2/29/12
2/13/12
3/7/16
4/11/14
10/10/11
11/12/11
9/20/18
11/12/11
1/21/10
5/21/11
2/20/12
1/18/08

I think that means, I make about one good photo a year?  ::) :)  To be fair, newer images take longer to climb up as the old ones have the advantage of being sold for longer.

But the point is, I don't really think that images age well and I do think that things that haven't sold are more likely to never sell, the older they get. Looking at last years sales, first time downloads are about 3% from 2011 or before, the rest are mostly 2015 and newer.

Maybe it's just me, but old images that have no downloads are just filler in my portfolio. New images seem to have a chance at growth and more downloads in the future.
its not easy to replace best sellers with new uploads.
But there is one important parameter to be considered. Downloads per month/images online.
Downloads per images are decreasing with time. In my experience this number will halve in about 4 years.
This is an exponential factor against income of microstock contributors.
For some time you can compensate this factor with better images, more uploads.
At some time you will reach an level of getting better, more uploads, etc,.. then its going downwards.



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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: January 14, 2023, 06:33 »
With 11335 Photos - 31,91 $ in November.
Meanwhile the others: https://www.anadolustok.com/konu-kas%C4%B1m-2022-sat%C4%B1%C5%9Flar%C4%B1

Hello friends.

I stopped uploading images for 2 years because I protested Shutterstock, but I still had a monthly income of over $50. Since I stopped uploading photos and winter came, my sales also dropped.
In general, sales decrease in winter.

I've earned a little, but I'll still share it to give friends an idea.

My November 2022 sales:

Adobe Stock = 7071 photos = $33.16
Shutterstock = 11335 photos = $31.91
Istock / Getty = 3305 photos = $12.44 (October sales actually)
Depositphotos = 12873 photos = $3.69
Dreamstime = 12873 = $1.05

I'll start uploading photos again. Will sales increase?
What is the situation with you?


Helpful English Translation.

The only thing that uploading more photos helps is, new photo and the new photo boost, and maybe (a distant maybe?) if someone looks at your portfolio because of the new photo, they might see an old photo.

You might consider the complaints that old photos sell better than new? And there have been people who left, much like you, and came back to find they are still selling images, like they did twp years ago. There are also people who keep uploading new and work, and their sales are dropping.

Uploading or not, seems to have the same effect as posting messages on this forum. What I mean is, neither one is connected to more or less sales. I don't think there are any tricks that will make a difference.

My situation? I think I make better images now and upload at a steady pace and I make less now than in 2012. But one thing is for sure, those are my images and yours are yours, so what happens to mine is only relevant to mine.

Shutterstock = 11335 photos = $31.91 Your RPI = .28 cents While mine for 5282 images is 1 cent, $53.56 in Nov, which is not that great. I don't mean this to be snooty or mean, but maybe you should try to create more images that sell instead of just, more images? Too many of mine are just filler or, I made it, so I'll upload it, and they will never get a download in their lifetime. (math corrected = thanks)

Only 1400 of my images have ever made a sale. Just over 25%. You can look at  https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings/top-performers?page=1&date_range=0&sort_direction=desc&per_page=100 that's 100 per page, and just count the pages times 100. That's your sold images.

What's your percentage? That will tell you if the problem isn't how many images, but what are they?

Good Luck finding what you are looking for and Happy Sales

RPI and RPD doesn't make much sense.
Microstock is a more of about the same image game nowadays.
You can upload 2 top images of an shooting or 200 average images.
Maybe RPI of the shooting will be the same, but not for the image.
So is RDP. At macrostock RPD is probably higher than at microstock.
But all that counts is income per hour. So lets assume that you spend X hours a month for stockphotography.
If your income per hour at stockphostography is higher than at your day job - its OK.
If not - it makes more sense to work overtime at your day job to increase your income.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock has locked my account
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:35 »
Please tell me after unlocking you when sales recovered?

There has been no unlocking, I have opened a whole new account.
Sales were at the usual level right at the beginning, but then fell sharply.
Strong fluctuations were also normal with my previous AS account.
Its quite logical. Search algorithm and sales are also driven by a few of your best sellers.
If you close your portfolio and start a new one, there are no best sellers for a good ranking in "relevance" or "downloads" search.
Your images are only found at "most recent" search, maybe in "featured" search.
Lets assume that you re-upload your portfolio from January to July, so your images are found in "most recent" search and sell well.
After stoping uploading your images are not in a good search rank anywhere. It will need some time to replace your bestseller that have once been in your portfolio with new images.
I think you will need to upload at least about 100 images/month to keep pace with AS portfolio growth.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock. When will sales return?
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:09 »
The problem of Dimaximus is that his portfolio lost a good ranking in search algorithm.
If the images/footage are not found they won't sale. One strategy maybe could be to upload consistently every week so that images/footage are found in new images/footage search.
Without uploading it probably would be hard to recover a good ranking in search algorithm.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock. When will sales return?
« on: January 06, 2023, 05:15 »
Sorry i am not MatHayward. Just my two-cents.
Think that search algorithm is company confidence.
If your portfolio don't get sales for about 3 weeks it will have an impact of search algorithm and sales. it probably will take some time for your portfolio to recover.

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I am curious if anyone is up scaling images for stock?
I have some smaller images and I was thinking about this.
My first DSLR was a Fuji Finepix S2. As far i remember it was a 6 MP DSLR upscaled to 12MP in camera.
Was some kind of marketing gag.
I don't use the Fuji S2 anymore, but i still use an 12MP full frame DSLR. Great quality especially for long exposure landscape photography.
in my experience real 12 MP images still sell well. I can process 12 MP Raw files like crazy and still get over 90% of my 12 MP images accepted.
I have to process Raw files of my 45MP DSLR more carefully.
I even think that i could use only 12MP for microstock. Maybe i would sell something less but not much less.
At macro stock things are different, they want at least 12 MP, but less than 24MP doesn't make much sense there.
At microstock i wouldn't bother about uploading 12MP files.

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I am curious if anyone is up scaling images for stock?
I have some smaller images and I was thinking about this.
Do you think that larger images will sell better?

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I sometimes have problems with people thinking that i am a newspaper photographer. Especially when using a large zoom lens like the 70-200/2,8.
Since covid there are some pople who are hating photographers working for press.
I dont discus with them because this could escalate to a fight with this angry people.
Covid changed everything.



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Don't have any image at Freepik and no indention to change that.
Just out of curiosity. How much do you earn per 1000 images at Freepik monthly?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How much do models pay?
« on: September 18, 2022, 09:48 »
The topic is not only about how much to pay, but also how not to pay :) and where and how to look for them.
Well you should do what works best for you.
I always paid my models.
Don't know any secrets how not to pay the models.
But you can try tfp.
Good luck.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How much do models pay?
« on: September 18, 2022, 07:46 »
You also can try tfp. Maybe your models are coming to the shooting and even sign MR.
Everything is possible. You asked what we pay the models.
I Gusses its up from tfp to more.
Good luck.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How much do models pay?
« on: September 18, 2022, 06:11 »
You can try to pay 15 an hour. Maybe some of the models will come to the shooting.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How much do models pay?
« on: September 17, 2022, 09:32 »
I paid 25 an hour for each model and 25 for travels costs.
But my last shooting with models was about 5 years ago.
But there are also opportunity costs. I can use my time more profitable doing other things.
A shooting with models take about the same time as shooting a wedding.
A small wedding package is about a 1/2 day shooting and about 500 profit.
If i do a stock shooting i probably earn less money for same effort than shooting weddings.
 

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Selling photos to russia
« on: September 04, 2022, 04:55 »
Or maybe all images bought in russia going directly to aid Ukraine.
So if Adobe ist selling one of my images in Russia, my earnings are paid to UA????????
No money and weapon to Russia and UA and the war will end soon.
Otherwise it will take years and force an economic crisis in EU

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Adobe Stock / Re: Horizontal and vertical image
« on: August 18, 2022, 07:57 »
Quote
That is funny. A couple of months ago I attended a Behance livestream, hosted by Mat and somebody else from Adobe. They were explicitly encouraging people to shoot the subject from different angles, place the same subject right or left, shoot vertical and horizontal and submit.
I guess that is not the motto anymore then.
to shoot the subject from different angles, place the same subject right or left, shoot vertical and horizontal.........
Thats the way i do. It works fine.

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