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Pond5 / Re: Video - Pricing at Pond5
« on: June 11, 2015, 11:11 »
LOOKS LIKE P5 SET A PRICE FLOOR.

After reading this thread, the evidence seems to show that customers will pay a wide price range for the right clip, and lowering the price on good clips won't increase sales. Also, it seems sellers have good experience lowering the price on their test shots and less unique shots. Wanting to try an experiment, I logged onto P5 and, whereas I had always just priced all HD clips at $40, I now raised my better shots to $54 and tried to lower my second-tier material to $24 - but P5 wouldn't let me, a pop-up said video has to be priced at $30 or more.

Don't know if people can price new shots lower than $30, maybe it applies only to price changes?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Five Years Full Time Stock
« on: April 02, 2015, 11:21 »
LOVE that post, Ginger!

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 launches The Public Domain Project
« on: January 24, 2015, 13:02 »
What a ton of whiny rudeness in this thread. A person comes on to share news that will have NO negative effect on our business (despite irrational comments to the contrary) and half the crowd starts throwing poo. Would you phrase things so rudely if you met face to face? If the answer is yes, your parents didn't raise you right - and I would say that to your face. A few people stated legitimate complaints and questions without being a jerk, but a lot of people posting are just hiding behind a computer to fling insults and talk trash. Threads are a lot better when we raise our conduct above the lowest standard of the internet.

I don't see the Public Domain project as having much effect either way on sales. Historical PD content is so different from modern content they simply don't cover the same needs. And because it's so clearly different and of limited potential, it's irrational to think customers are going to suddenly expect everything to be free. On the plus side, if customers get used to using Pond5 for historical footage, then they'll very likely start using Pond5 for other stock needs, in which case our sales go up. Again, I don't expect a big bleed-over for a sizable uptick in sales, but it's something Pond5 is doing all the work on and it might help sales a bit, so fine.

And +1 to the need for Pond5 to automatically down-size files - please. Glad to hear they're starting that with 4K soon, I need that feature.

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Bigstock.com / Re: BigStock Selling HD Videos for $0.15 !!
« on: November 13, 2014, 12:11 »
I just emailed this to Bigstock and Shutterstock, I encourage others to write to them as well:

As an image and video contributor on Shutterstock and image contributor on Bigstock, I'm strongly against the massive price drop that Bigstock is offering on video clips. These are quality clips that are offered for a fair price on other sites but sell for only pennies on Bigstock. This can only have an extremely damaging effect on the market and contributor income, as buyers who find out about it will naturally buy on Bigstock instead of Shutterstock. You are creating a race to the bottom that greatly devalues the work of contributors. If this experiment continues and the market price of video clips plummets, you will destroy the industry, as it won't be economically feasible for contributors to create quality video clips in exchange for pennies. Please immediately stop this terribly damaging and short-sighted experiment.

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Bigstock.com / Re: BigStock Selling HD Videos for $0.15 !!
« on: November 13, 2014, 12:01 »
Our apologies for any confusion. As many of you know, Bigstock is oriented towards the consumer market and independent creatives and the needs of that audience are different than traditional stock footage customers (think of enthusiastic YouTube creators vs. professional video editors). Bigstock is developing a small collection of videos to test how first-time and casual footage customers respond to different entry-level products. The contributors who are participating have all opted-in and all of the content is being appropriately licensed with their consent. The collection will be limited and these early packages represent some initial efforts to test and generate interest in footage among non-traditional buyers. We will continue to work with participating contributors as we learn more about this new market.

Michal on behalf of Bigstock

Michal, there is nothing "casual" or "entry-level" about the video collection offered. They are mostly high quality clips, including complex CGI shots. It is the exact same material that "traditional stock footage customers" buy, but at a fraction of the cost. A massive price drop like this can be highly destructive to the marketplace. As a Shutterstock video/image contributor and Bigstock image contributor, I urge your company to realize the damage you are risking to both your profitability and your contributors' income, and immediately stop this experiment.

I urge other video contributors to contact Shutterstock and Bigstock and ask them to stop this massive price-drop experiment before it damages the market and our income.

Contributor support at Shutterstock: [email protected]
Email for Bigstock: [email protected]

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Contributors Jumping Ship??
« on: November 11, 2014, 14:40 »
Hey guys - given the pricing changes that have occurred at iStock, I was curious if this is forcing you to move away from the platform and focus more of your attention elsewhere?


Yep. It was bad enough to receive only 15% commission on my work, but now the lower footage prices threaten to turn the stock video industry into a race to the bottom. So I deactivated all my clips. Did a thread discussion here: http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/why-video-contributors-should-leave-istockphoto

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One great side effect of iStock's self-implosion - my sales at Shutterstock have been record high since September, more than making up for the loss of iStock income. This and similar anecdotes from others suggests that maybe there's an exodus of customers from iStock to Shutterstock?

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I think video still has a way to go before oversupply, still many niches to fill and trends are always changing. Especially as bandwidth becomes more widespread across the globe, i can see video being used in all sorts of ways and in all sorts of devices.

Agree completely. And 4K is still growing. Maybe in a couple years over-supply will come and revenues for contributors will drop. But then someday they'll invent some new format and everything will have to be re-shot. Video seems to generally have a shorter shelf-life than photos.

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Every buyer that fails to find what they want there and finds it on a site that pays us more is going to help us.

Exactly, thank you.

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Theres been a lot of internet discussion about iStockphoto since their price/credit restructuring in September, most of it focusing on photo sales. As primarily a video contributor, Id like to point out the danger of what iStock is doing to the stock video market. They not only pay less per sale than other sites, but in the long run theyre threatening the profitability of the stock footage industry as a whole. Ill make a case here as to why its in the best interest of non-exclusive contributors to stop uploading to iStockphoto and deactivate their files as a growing number of contributors are already doing.

The unanimous opinion online of those who have looked into the data is that iStockphoto is an exploitative rip-off for non-exclusive video contributors. iStocks base royalty rate for non-exclusive contributors is 15%. Thats half of what Shutterstock pays video contributors, and far below the 45%-50% payouts of Pond5 and RevoStock. Sites like Depositphotos, Fotolia and Dreamstime all have much higher royalty rates as well, though low sales amounts and subscription rates on at least Fotolia can make those sites not worthwhile. All in all, iStockphoto by far has the lowest royalty rate for non-exclusive contributors.

So what? Why not just take whatever you can earn from iStock? Because low pay devalues our work, with the larger threat being if iStocks exploitative practices become successful and force other companies to compete by similarly lowering royalty rates. iStocks short-sighted attempt to outmaneuver competitors could trigger a race to the bottom, with us contributors being hurt the most. Its bad enough that one site insults us by paying us only 15% for the sale of our own work. If other sites follow suit, the financial loss over the years would be thousands of dollars for even small volume contributors.

So far, based on forum chatter, sales (including mine) have not responded well to iStocks restructuring. Though that hurts in the short-term, its best for the long-term that this plan fail. The money I make at iStock is unfairly low, and not worth the money I stand to lose at other companies if they adopt iStocks practices. Thats why I responded as many other contributors have in the last month I stopped uploading new content to iStock, and recently deactivated all my video files there.

Note that everything Ive said pertains to NON-exclusive contributors. iStocks exclusive video contributors are in a completely different situation. They start at a 25% royalty rate, and are eligible for the Signature collection where clips sell three times higher than non-exclusive Essentials clips. So they stand to make good money when their clips sell. Many complain that the new pricing on exclusive clips is so high its hurting sales. Regardless, the royalty is more equitable, so they dont have the same reasons to abandon iStock as non-exclusives do. It would actually be greatly to the advantage of exclusive sellers if the non-exclusives did leave. When you have a high priced clip for sale, the last thing you want is a similar clip selling next to yours for literally one-third the price.

I believe what would be best for all contributors in the long term is if non-exclusives left iStockphoto en masse, essentially turning it into a shop that mostly sells exclusive clips. Some clients will pay for a premium for that, so let the market set that price and feed those contributors. Meanwhile, non-exclusive contributors can get a much fairer royalty rate at other seller sites.

If you sell through iStock, I encourage you to evaluate whats best for your business both right now and in the long run. If you agree iStock is unfair in what it pays, consider no longer uploading to them and deactivating your files there. Send them an email that youll no longer accept an insulting 15% rate on your own work. They need to pay competitive with other companies or lose their non-exclusive supply.

You can hear from other iStock non-exclusive video contributors on the iStock forum here: http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=362971&page=1

Instructions on how to deactivate iStockphoto files can be found here: http://istockfaq.gettyimages.com/how-do-i-deactivate-a-file/

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