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iStockPhoto.com / Re: D-Day (Deactivation Day) on Istock - Feb 2
« on: January 20, 2013, 01:19 »
I may not activate my images, but I'm considering removing my Illustrator Exclusive status.
This gives me the freedom to sell anywhere.

... Until your files are available everywhere for free.
The only way Getty will stop its unethical practices is if contributors 1) Stop contributing and 2) Contributors pull their files.

If you have ANY files sitting at iStock or Getty you are just enabling them to continue their abusive practices and feeding the beast. There are other options out there. Getty should not get away with their greed and evil ways. They've pissed off so many photographers that I think the pendulum has begun to shift against them. But that momentum can ONLY continue if people deactivate their portfolios at all of Getty's sites, including iStock. Because as in any business, money talks. By denying them income through your images, you'll be sending them a clear message that you will no longer accept their abuse.

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Vannphoto:

When the largest and most respected stock agency starts giving away images, it not only tarnishes the reputation of this industry but punishes the rest of us. Agencies are in the business of selling images, not giving them away.
I think you meant to sat "largest and most VILLIFIED stock agency..." I see no respect for Getty from anyone. 

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The only way to get their attention is if people stop contributing and pulling their work and denying them the exorbitant share of income that they clearly do not deserve.


That's one way, but I think the legal option would be more effective.
Honestly, when things have blown up in the past talks of litigation have often come up with no action. All of us are spread out around the globe with no clear organization like a union and no leader. Who will pay for the legal action? How will funds be raised? Who would administer all of that? Who would organize everything? Who has that kind of time and money? I hope this time around I'm proven wrong.

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The only way iStock and Getty will change is if you hit their bottom line. Period. No amount of swearing and yelling in any forum, the official one or this one, is going to change their tune.

The only way to get their attention is if people stop contributing and pulling their work and denying them the exorbitant share of income that they clearly do not deserve.

Between this, Microsoft, and all the other crap that's gone on, I've just about had enough. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Could somebody loan me a dime?
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:42 »
Wow, are you joking? Since when did this become the pan-handlers forum? If you want more DL's, put the work in and earn them. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock down? 503 error
« on: October 24, 2012, 09:30 »
Maybe they are processing PP sales?
Maybe Not?
You know what they say about chewing gum and walking.   ;D
Maybe they have an incompetent IT staff... 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock's priorities
« on: October 20, 2012, 07:34 »
Really, now. Are you REALLY surprised that they'd tweet this bit of unprofessionalism after all that's gone on the last few years? Nothing surprises me anymore. 

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Try doing a search on iStock. Someone just sent me an e-mail telling me that search is broken. I tried and just get a "Tell me more" message.

What buffoons are running the show at iStock? Why so many problems? Why can't they get their sh*t together?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Why is iStockphoto tanking?
« on: October 07, 2012, 11:10 »
They should raise the prices A LOT, that's the only way out.
Competition will follow.

Less sales, more money.
I couldn't disagree more. The market is FLOODED and SATURATED. People are no longer willing to pay these prices, and imagery can always be had elsewhere. Price increases will only lead to iStock's downfall.  Getty doesn't seem to have learned that lesson way back when they felt threatened by iStock. Too much supply = low prices. It's simple economics. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Why is iStockphoto tanking?
« on: October 07, 2012, 10:19 »
No one at HQ gives a sh*t anymore. I can imagine morale there must be at an all time low. I blame the powers that be and Getty for taking a great company and pretty much running it into the ground. I blame Bruce for selling out. If he needed to raise cash to build more infrastructure he could've done an IPO and still maintained control of the company. 

But all that's water under the bridge. As it stands, posts go unanswered, support tickets go unanswered or get answers that aren't helpful. They ignore legitimate concerns that are raised in the forums. I stopped bother posting a while ago. The best thing they can do now to revive the brand (if they even have any interest in doing so which doesn't seem likely) is to...

1) Replace whoever is in charge of IT. I worked in project management for many years and can't believe how f'd up each new "improvement" is. 
2) Replace whoever is in charge of communications. I don't even think I need to explain this one. 
3) Put someone in charge who actually gives a crap about both customers and contributor concerns. 
4) Bring prices down. So many designers I know have gone elsewhere. With the market now flooded with tons of imagery, iStock has a harder time justifying these prices. And don't tell me that exclusivity counts for something because it really doesn't. 

The only thing that will get iStock and Getty to truly listen is if contributors take their images elsewhere. By continuing to upload and maintaining a presence at iStock, you're being complacent to iStock's treatment of its contributors. We've seen that they no longer respond to the angry posts in the forums. Imagine if contributors began pulling their portfolios en mass in addition the streams of customers fleeing to competitors. Then maybe, only maybe, they might begin to listen and put competent people in charge to turn things around.  Until then, they won't give a flying f*ck about anything that any of us say in the forums. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock downtime 9/4
« on: September 05, 2012, 09:54 »
Still down. These people can't get anything right. Why did they do this mid-week? What IT department would ever do that? Are they f*cking idiots?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Paypal payment mess up
« on: June 02, 2012, 20:21 »
Thanks for posting about that - I hadn't noticed that the amount was wrong when I got the payment, just transferrred to bank account and moved on. I guess I'm only slightly miffed that the "fix" is to pay the amount on Thursday that they should have sent on Monday.

Slightly miffed because I find it breathtaking that an organization that's been paying us for a long time could just mess it up this week, and that they could have such lax controls on their systems that they pay the wrong amounts. I suppose I should be grateful it was only a mixup with weeks, not with contributors. Although, if they wanted to send me sjlocke's weekly payout, that'd be fine with me (perhaps less so with Sean :))
Sorry, but at this point no screw-up by iStock is "breathtaking" to me anymore. It's just the same, inept business as usual.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock site mail
« on: May 27, 2012, 09:10 »
That does have scam written all over it. If you do reply just to humor them, I definitely wouldn't give them the e-mail address that's tied to your iStock account. Set up a fake one. Takes 2 minutes. 

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Look at a lot of the comments under these agency shots.  They are not kind and they say a lot about what customers think of these old  (most of these shots were taken 5 + years ago), bad quality and extremely expensive.  I do believe getty is driving customers away with this business model.

I doubt very much if 'they'ever look at feedback given on files. I hope the buyer also contacted Support.
They've probably got an auto-button saying, "This is correct. Half of the models were told to shut their eyes."

Ironically, I usually bin editorial crowd scenes if an 'obvious' person has their eyes closed. Of course, it's difficult to avoid.
If I'd have shot something like that (non-editorial) I'd have taken several shots in rapid succession and cloned the eyes where necessary. That's just shoddy workpersonship.
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I couldn't agree more. The market is saturated. There is TONS of competition. Buyers who come to microstock sites don't give a crap about exclusivity (at least the ones I've talked to don't). Getty is really kidding itself if it thinks it can continue to charge these amounts for Agency files and Vetta files when cheaper alternatives can be had elsewhere. No wonder sales of Vetta, GI and Agency files are slipping. It's amazing to me that Getty hasn't stuck to the original iStock model that made iStock such a success. It's clear they're just in it for a quick buck. They're gonna lose in the end if they continue down this path.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock surveying buyers again...
« on: May 09, 2012, 09:57 »
Excuse my French, but what a bunch of f'ing morons. If they need a survey (which will probably not result in any meaningful changes anyway as other posters have mentioned) to figure out what's wrong then they truly are clueless. 

Prices are too high compared to other sites. Simple supply and demand. Who gives a crap about exclusivity? There's no value add in it for most buyers (and yes, I know a few buyers). Whether an image has been sold 1000 times on iStock or 1000 times across multiple sites really makes no difference.

I also used to buy things from iStock myself from time to time for small projects, and I now go elsewhere along with lots of others like me who made iStock what it was in its heyday. Everyone I know who's left to buy from competitors cited the ridiculous and frequent price increases as the primary reason not to mention the inept IT department they must have that can't seem to keep the site running smoothly. How quickly Getty forgets and how quickly greed has taken over. Such a shame.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS kills logo and png initiatives
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:27 »
There was a store on Zazzle a few weeks ago called Vetta-Images that consisted of products created from many different istock contributor artists' vettas.  It might have been just anyone buying istock vetta images and selling products from them, which I think is legit.  But the mention in the HQ newsletter makes me wonder.  Whatever, the store is gone now. 
Legit my a**. We were not paid for the use of these images. If anything, I imagine it was pulled because what they were doing was selling our work without compensating us. What there were doing was unethical and violated our contract. Plain and simple. 

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^^Agreed. Sadly for iStock contributors, I think Getty is doing what's best for Getty. iStock is just one of many of its collections. At the end of the day they'll do what they think will help their bottom line the most and bring the most cash in for their owners regardless of who gets hurt in the end.

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Everyone's still waiting for a lot of things that were promised and never delivered without even so much as an apology or explanation. I'm disgusted with iStock's lack of communication and lack of respect for their contributors. Monthly newsletter? What a joke. Logos? Nada.  

My expectations with iStock are to have zero to low expectations going forward. As nice as I'm sure the iStock staff are in person, when it comes to communicating with contributors and customers, their lack of communication and undelivered promises and is pathetic.   

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockChart no longer public?
« on: March 04, 2012, 00:12 »
Does someone have a link to their FB page?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Kelly Thompson Leaving Getty January 20th
« on: January 19, 2012, 21:38 »
His beliefs and reputation will follow him, not related to iStock.  At least I think he fought for us all the way as long as he could. That is why he got the axe.

You can stick your faux sympathy where the sun doesn't shine. Thompson's 'beliefs and reputation' as well as his actions led to millions of dollars of commissions being diverted from contributors to Istock during his watch. He was in charge of Istock when they offered to 'grandfather' canister levels and then essentially went back on that a few months later. If he'd had genuinely 'fought for us' and not got his way then he should have resigned at the time. To not have done so, as the man in charge, meant he endorsed the changes (far more than his 'beliefs and reputation').

Under Thompson's watch the most damaging series of actions in Istock's history occurred and have resulted in the downfall of the immensely strong business he inherited. If he wasn't responsible for that then at very best he was a weak and ineffective COO promoted way beyond his capability and his level of courage. He's lost us all a lot of money. F*ck him.
Agreed. Kelly was one of most ineffective leaders I've ever seen. Sure, he was a nice guy, as Stacey pointed out.  But just because you're nice doesn't mean you can run a company. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Kelly Thompson Leaving Getty January 20th
« on: January 19, 2012, 12:53 »
While I don't wish anyone ill will, I can't say that I feel too bad for him. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:40 »
Not sweat I am on your team! All I care is my ROI which includes my TIME. Its just working for me, iStock could pull the rug out today and I would be scrambling for sure. Non-Exclusive means a massive income drop for me from 35% to 18% and a drop in search. I can't afford that so I hope iStock keeps on rolling!
Trust me, I like the perks of exclusivity as much as you do and agree that we're on the same team. Increased visibility (depending on which way the best match winds are blowing for the day), Vetta sales, etc. I'm just concerned that the pricing they have in place now is what's driving customers away. 

If the economy were back to where it was before the 2008 debacle, I think the picture would be very different. But people are watching their pennies and going to where the value is. And I'm not sure iStock provides that value any longer for many customers which is why people are seeing the steep decline in DL's. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:16 »
Lets talk pricing. I mainly sell HD video and feel the pricing is very fair for the work I do. I shoot in places people can't get into and want a fair price for my footage.
Buyers will still stop by istock because they know there is a selection of files there that you can not find at any of the other sites. I am not in this for a race to the bottom.
I almost dropped my exclusivity last year but after doing a lot of research and math iStock was still the place to be. Now if my sales tank and buyers leave then I have no
trouble running as fast as I can to other agencies! Having a different selections at different price points is a good thing. My bet is you will see other agencies try the same
thing in the near future. Now you might think I am just a fan boy but not a chance. I hate how iStock tries to grab all the cash from our work and Getty has to be the worst
of all for greed and arrogance! My point is I do what is best for my business. This includes my time, time to me is a very important factor and if I can earn what I need from
submitting to only one agency and make a good income then I have more free time to shoot and be with my family. Each of us needs to do what is best for us. Others are
better off not being exclusive and I support and applaud  them!
Let's talk exclusivity. I would argue that a majority of buyers don't care. Unless you're buying RM images, how "exclusive" is an image really if it's been purchased by other buyers hundreds of times?  For my projects and for a couple of designers I know, exclusivity means nothing. If buyers want something truly exclusive, they'll pay for a RM license. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Layoffs at istock today
« on: January 18, 2012, 10:43 »
Not knowing the reasons or facts this is very hard to grasp! These lay-offs may have been desperately needed. Sometimes you need to clean house some to get it in order. My sales at iStock have
been extremely strong this month. I don't see this as the company is dying. I truly feel for those who have lost their jobs as I was there 2 years ago. Funny iStock saved my family and now its
hurting others. Truly a sad day for those who lost their jobs!
Great to hear your sales are doing well. However, I don't believe that iStock's pricing is sustainable with all the competition that's now out there. Case in point, I've got an upcoming project, and I'll be using Shutterstock for the first time because I'll save over 50% over what I'd pay at iStock for comparable images.  I hate not supporting my own agency, but I'm on a limited budget. 

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