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« on: July 24, 2023, 18:05 »
But then, according to the non-denialists, they just hang around here for decades (or some people believe even for centuries or millenia) without making formal contact and sometimes get seen by some people and sometimes they lose an aircraft for whatever reason and don't seem to be able to retrieve it before the US government seizes it, inspite of their advanced technology.
1. The "losses" may very well be intentional. For example, an intelligence test for "wild primates" on this planet. Humans conduct similar tests with mirrors placed in jungles and forests. Or to cause certain developments on Earth, kind of like the monolith in Space Odyssey 2001. 2. The craft may be some cheap drones that they don't care about.
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« on: July 24, 2023, 17:23 »
With the current technology, it would take us more than 50.000 years to reach the nearest solar system, Proxima Centauri, which probably does not have a plant with life. Even with far more advanced technology the voyage would very likely take at least a numer of decades, if not centuries.
1. "The current technology" is the key word here. And that "current technology" is only a few generations ahead of the bicycle... In the grand scheme of things, it is probably incredibly primitive. 2. Einstein's physics superseded Newtonian physics. It is conceivable that for sufficiently advanced beings, Einsteinian physics is below kindergarten level, metaphorically speaking. 3. Even within Einsteinian physics, due to time dilation, time flows much more slowly for beings inside a fast-moving craft. Even if they can "only approach" the speed of light, not much time would pass inside the craft even if it has travelled for thousands of light years. From the perspective of a photon travelling at the speed of light, no time has elapsed even after the photon has travelled for billions of light years. For the photon, it happens instantly. Also, we don't know anything about their lifespans. Maybe they just send drones, von Neumann's probes or whatever. Maybe they have working Alcubierre drives. And Alcubierre drive is just one proposed loophole allowing to effectively reach the destination faster than light. Maybe there are other loopholes. 4. If they can operate in at least one more dimension than us (string theory proposes 11 dimensions), then they could instantly reach any point in our 4D spacetime. Our 4D spacetime would be like Flatland to them. 5. Watch some videos with Professor Donald Hoffman to understand why spacetime is not fundamental. It is conceivable that super highly-developed entities do not even travel THROUGH spacetime. This could potentially explain some of the "woo" things about the phenomenon. The perception of 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension is what evolution gave us. It is not absolute and it is not fundamental. It was the minimum required for our survival as a species. Hoffman has showed evidence that evolution hid the rest of reality from our perception.
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« on: July 24, 2023, 13:53 »
People who want to know the truth, should be skeptical, and should ask difficult questions, before they are convinced and believe something that's highly unusual and extraordinary. Not the other way around.
1. Open-minded skepticism is great. Denialism is stupid. 2. Proposing a hypothesis is fine. You don't need evidence to propose a hypothesis. A hypothesis is different from a theory. There are reports of unexplained anomalous phenomena. And there are the "extraterrestrial" / "extratemporal" / "interdimensional" etc. hypotheses trying to come up with an explanation. It is all fine. Most great discoveries were once just a "hypothesis" (unless it was a serendipity). A hypothesis may be refuted or not. 3. The question is what is more unusual and extraordinary? I would say that the assumption that humans are the pinnacle of intelligence and technical development in the universe / multiverse / the wider reality is just preposterous. I would even say that it is the pinnacle of arrogance. Humans only invented bicycles a few generations ago, and most humans have big problems imagining a "simple" tesseract. Also, if you watch the videos with Professor Donald Hoffman that I linked above, you will realize that we can only perceive a tiny little bit of reality, and even that little bit is completely distorted. Hoffman showed evidence that evolution hides the reality from us. If humans were the most advanced beings and there were no other beings capable of visiting the Earth across the whole wider reality, I would say that it is pretty "extraordinary".
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« on: July 23, 2023, 17:18 »
Probably all a misunderstanding. For example, if Grush asks anybody whether they think there is evidence for non-human intelligence on earth, any sensible person would answer: "Yes, of course!", probably not realizing that Grush for some reason seems to think that dolphins and chimpanzees are human.
You have posted that gag of yours for the umpteenth time, but it doesn't add anything constructive or interesting to the discussion. Like a broken vinyl record, stuck in a groove.
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« on: July 23, 2023, 15:37 »
FOAF kind of hearsay that most often doesn't trace back to any real individual at all. What people believe and how many believe, doesn't make something real.
If Grusch had been told BS, it raises many questions. Grusch is not some YouTube dude with a UFO podcast, he was tasked with this investigation by the Department of Defense. It's no joke, that thing was serious. Now, if some people with very high clearances had decided to tell him fairy tales as part of his investigation, the obvious question is: WHY?W-T-F is going on there? Lying to someone in his position, while he is conducting an investigation, is really serious. And if they believed in what they told him, then it's another "W-T-F is going on there?"
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« on: July 21, 2023, 17:43 »
This will be just another farce from the UFO cult followers. These events are nothing but more programming for the weak minds of the brainwashed.
Denialists are the new conspiracy theorists  There is a conspiracy behind any attempts to research anomalous phenomena and attempts to declassify stuff, LOL. Noland, Elizondo, Loeb belong to the conspiracy LMAO... Why would people with respected careers in their fields risk being ridiculed? Because they are part of the conspiracy, LOL...But what are the goals of the conspiracy? Hmmm....
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« on: July 19, 2023, 14:47 »
That is true. There is certainly non-human intelligence on this planet. I mentioned this before. There are chimpanzees, other great apes, dolphins and to a lesser degree cats and dogs and many other animals. And it is in fact a global phenomenon. Just recently, I detected a cat in my neighbours garden.
Very funny  Consider a career as a stand-up comedian 
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« on: July 19, 2023, 14:34 »
"Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester, published a critique of the Grusch claims on June 22 with Big Think. Frank writes that he does "not find these claims exciting at all" because they are all "just hearsay" where "a guy says he knows a guy who knows another guy who heard from a guy that the government has alien spaceships".[24]"
From what I have read, some witnesses have confirmed at least some of Grusch's claims and there will be a hearing. The fact that such claims are even being investigated is quite astonishing. Before 2017, they would have just been ridiculed and ignored. Jonathan Grey, a current US intelligence official at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (Nasic), confirmed the existence of exotic materials to the Debrief.
The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone, Grey said.
Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/08/ufo-house-representatives-hearing-investigation
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« on: July 19, 2023, 13:28 »
really?
c - their testimony will cover only unexplained events, no actual evidence, especially now ET artifacts or bodies
d - they have examined all the evidence & concluded there is nothing ET
e - they will release data previously classified for natl security which led to conspiracy theories. releasing it earlier would have exposed our technologies which have now been replaced by more sophisticated programs
f - they have finally developed cameras that can actually focus & discovered the terran origin of previously classified as UFO
What? What you have come up with is already covered by a. Grusch and others have made some very concrete and bold claims. Watch the interview with Grusch. I think you are not familiar with it. Apparently, he, and other people who came out, are viewed as "credible" by the Congress and elsewhere. If these claims are not true, then some high-ranking US officials are nuts, mentally unstable or whatever. Or this is psyops. Denialism at this stage is nothing else than a religious belief. I don't know if Grusch and others are nuts. Maybe they are, but maybe not. But I am very curious to find out the truth and I am simply open-minded about it.
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« on: July 19, 2023, 10:51 »
no one yet has actually shown ANYTHING related to interstellar lifeforms - congress may declassify such material IF IT EXISTS, but does not say there actually is any there there.
1. "Interstellar lifeforms" is already an interpretation. At this point, the public doesn't know much, so "NHI" and "the phenomenon" are better terms. 2. Face the music. If there is nothing behind the claims, then either one of these must be true: a) some high-ranking US government officials and military staff with high clearances are bats#it crazy b) we are watching some gigantic psyops There are no other options. But if it is psyops, they could certainly make it more shock-and-awe... And it should get much more coverage in mainstream media. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP68-00046R000200090025-2.pdf
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« on: July 18, 2023, 09:01 »
This will be just another farce from the UFO cult followers. These events are nothing but more programming for the weak minds of the brainwashed.
Besides that, do you also have anything intelligent to add?
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« on: July 17, 2023, 18:39 »
Who on this forum would travel to a Crimean resort, these days, even assuming that your whole trip + accomodation + food is paid for?
When the time comes, I will certainly want to go to NAFO's Crimea Beach Party. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVg62_lSbmE
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« on: July 16, 2023, 22:04 »
Through this bridge, Russian terrorists supply 30% of weapons and soldiers to the occupied territory of Ukraine. The Democrats will not allow this bridge to be destroyed.
There are reports from many sources that a part of the bridge collapsed at night.
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« on: July 15, 2023, 12:31 »
First and foremost, Ukraine is not served at all if the Russians unpack their tactical nuclear weapons. In view of what has happened so far, I think this is a more realistic scenario than the Russians standing outside Berlin.
I think the likelihood of that happening is extremely low, for multiple reasons. If Russians wanted and were able to use nukes, they probably would have done so already - after getting their butts kicked in Kharkiv and Kherson, or after one of the multiple strikes on targets in Crimea, or even inside Russia. There must have been important reasons why they couldn't do it. Right now, it is just a tool to scare the public in the West. We just shouldn't pay attention to their threats, because they will always try to blackmail us. NATO must of course monitor their activity, but the public should just ignore Medvedev's nuclear threats, he makes many of them every month.
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« on: July 13, 2023, 16:05 »
Maybe, if West Ukraine pays for the damages they have inflicted on the East of Ukraine during the 10 year civil war after their coup they staged in 2014. And maybe the EU, Great Britain, Australia and the US can also pay because they have delivered a lot of weapons helping to destroy the country.
No, that is not how it is going to work. The frozen funds (AFAIK some $200 bln) will be transferred for the reconstruction of Ukraine. And russians will have to pay for the rest. If not, the sanctions will remain in place and in the long run the EU will have a border with China. Vladivostok is already treated as an internal Chinese harbor. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/05/26/beijing-now-free-to-use-russian-port-of-vladivostok-for-its-domestic-trade_6028059_4.htmlI guess, russians may think that paying for the reconstruction of Ukraine is a good deal.
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« on: July 13, 2023, 15:55 »
Since 1783 Crimea was part of Russia (Soviet Union). Just since 1954 it was part of Ukraine when it was given (as a friendly gesture) to the soviet Republic of Ukraine (created in 1917, only to be independent in 1954). 60% of the inhabitants are Russians and only 24% Ukranian (measurement of 2001). So, according to the inhabitants I would say it's russian since inhabitants of the west of Ukraine staged the coup in 2014 and went another way. Secondly, because Sebastopol is of vital military importance to russia for it's naval fleet I can understand they would not have letten this go.
The native population of Crimea is Crimean Tatars, and they are very pro-Ukrainian. They consider Ukraine to be their homeland. Russian murderers exterminated their ancestors or forcefully deported them. Russian criminals did the same in the Baltic states, taking the homes of Balts murdered by them. If Russians living in Crimea cannot behave properly, they will have to be expelled. It is not their land. I think Bene-style decrees will be justified in this case. They can live, for example, in the traditional Russian native territory, i.e. the swamps around Moscow.
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« on: July 12, 2023, 15:34 »
And let me remind you who retreated from Vietnam, who lost in the Bay of Pigs Invasion or how the Korean adventure ended.
Let me remind you then who managed to lose a naval battle against Czechoslovakia, a country without access to sea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_BaikalLet me remind you that some 200,000 Russian soldiers are in Finland, but about 1 meter deep in the ground. Let me remind you how Poland kicked Russians butts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War
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« on: July 12, 2023, 15:21 »
The difference is that while Russia has modernized its nuclear forces about 90% of the way through, the U.S. still relies on platforms built during the Cold War.
I don't know what you're smoking, but maybe change the dealer. HIMARS, 40-year old NATO technology, has basically stopped all Russian advances. Has anyone seen the famous Russian Armata tanks in action? Yes, Russia pumped billions into its military, but it was spent on yachts and hookers. Russia is now a vassal state of China. China will not allow Russia to use nukes, even if they had some working ones. China has a plan about how to become the No. 1 superpower. And that plan doesn't include some Russian psychopathic-ultrareligious moron shooting nukes, because it makes things very unpredictable. Xi can literally obliterate the Russian economy with a single sentence.   
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« on: July 12, 2023, 07:54 »
And you just accused 80+% of the world population that wont recognise Kosovo including NATO members for spreading russian lies:
You seem to have a big problem with reading with understanding and drawing analogies. And now, check how many countries recognize Crimea and Donbas as part of Russia. Spoiler alert: only a couple of clown states. You have just scored an own goal.
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« on: July 12, 2023, 07:27 »
Maybe you heard with in Albanians in Serbia case.
And then comes NATO, blatantly attacks Serbia , redraws the borders and recognize Kosovo as an independent country in same exact scenario you just described.
For crying out loud, stop lying, stop drawing false analogies and stop parroting Russian lies!!!And I am not a big fan of Kosovo's statehood myself.  
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« on: July 11, 2023, 14:32 »
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
This is a tricky one. I do not celebrate the deaths of individual Russian soldiers and the family tragedies behind those deaths. I don't want to become a monster myself. But at the same time, it is obvious that each dead Russian soldier means that he won't be able to kill innocent Ukrainians and it also makes it less likely that Russia will try to invade another country in the near future. It is oddly satisfying to see Russian military bases or tanks being blown up, because it makes Europe a little safer in the future. I just don't celebrate the human tragedy behind it. I celebrate it as a strategic/tactical success, if that makes sense. It is safe to assume that most of Russians support Putin / Prigozhin, and then you also have other imperialist scumbags like Navalny and his followers. The percentage of decent Russians is very small. I know such ones from YouTube and other places. I try to support them by giving likes to their content, to counterbalance my extremely negative feelings towards Russia as a whole. This Russian guy celebrates Russian losses too: https://www.youtube.com/@TheRussianDudeThis anti-Putin Russian guy applied for asylum in the very "russophobic" country of Poland. Quite brave. He learns Polish and makes shocking video comparisons of everyday life quality in Russia and Poland. You can turn on automatic translated subtitles to understand him. His Russian family has "cancelled" him for what he is doing. He knows that Russia is a s#ithole, but he wants Russians to see the light and change. So, I think it is good to promote such people: https://www.youtube.com/@ViacheslavZarutskii
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« on: July 11, 2023, 11:31 »
He is yet another useful idiot, craving for attention and as wrong as putin (or medvedev), whose words he is parroting.
A useful idiot typically has achieved some kind of position in their native country, and hence their "usefulness" (for example: Chomsky, Orban, Schrder, Waters). The correct taxonomy for random specimens found in Internet forums is usually one of these: vatnik (the ones from the countries of the former Soviet Union), tankie (from the West) or some third-world boy whose life motto is "Russia stronk". These are the most common species. They haven't reached the status of a useful idiot, because, on their own, their "usefulness" is very limited. A classic useful idiot is publicly recognizable.
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« on: July 11, 2023, 10:57 »
The western world is risking a lot in grabbing this country. And the EU is just dumb. This is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
It is ****ing hilarious, and pathetic at the same time, when vatniks, tankies, and other types of Russian shills are complaining about the corruption in Ukraine.
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« on: July 10, 2023, 16:23 »
Is this a good time to bring up Volhynia? There was a commemoration after all last week (the massive slaughter of Polish and Jewish people by Ukrainian nationalists).
https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/polish-demand-for-recognition-of-wwii-massacres-sparks-row-with-ukraine
I bring this up because it's strange that the leaders of that massacre (like Stepan Bandera), are still being seen as heroes today in Ukraine, even increasingly the last few months. They should know better by now.
No, it is not strange. The Ukrainian statehood is relatively fresh. And any nation, especially a young one, needs some heroes, any kind of heroes... But Bandera will be soon forgotten, there will be no need for such "heroes", especially when that "hero" is despised by one of their most important allies. After the war, there will be countless new Ukrainian heroes who defended their country against Mordor and the genocide that its orcs brought with them. And all the tankies and vatniks of the world can weep as much as they want and they will not be able to change it. Both Ukrainians and Poles understand that they must be friends and that there is no alternative. Ukrainian-Polish brotherhood is a fact now, Russia is being demilitarized, Ukraine will be in NATO and the EU, Finland has joined NATO, Europe doesn't need Russian gas anymore, Russia is a vassal state of China. A piece of sh** would have been a more successful Russian president than putin, and a better choice for Russia. And if putin owns Trump, what does it say about Trump?
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